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	<title>Comments on: The Notebook: Spurs-Blazers, 2/25/09</title>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW and just for the record, he is a 3-time All Star (since he was selected this year). Incidentally if you follow the HoF predictor on basketball-reference.com, built on the premise that a player over 0.5 has a very high probability to be in the HoF, Parker was at 48% before the All-Start selection, he&#039;s at 54% now, &quot;virtually in&quot;.

The interesting part is that he is the 15th player in the list of active players. The 14th is Grant Hill with a predictor of 80% - and the 16th is Carmelo Anthony with 26%, meaning Parker is leading the young crowd and isolated around the 50% mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW and just for the record, he is a 3-time All Star (since he was selected this year). Incidentally if you follow the HoF predictor on basketball-reference.com, built on the premise that a player over 0.5 has a very high probability to be in the HoF, Parker was at 48% before the All-Start selection, he&#8217;s at 54% now, &#8220;virtually in&#8221;.</p>
<p>The interesting part is that he is the 15th player in the list of active players. The 14th is Grant Hill with a predictor of 80% &#8211; and the 16th is Carmelo Anthony with 26%, meaning Parker is leading the young crowd and isolated around the 50% mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Mountain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Powe, Singleton, Dudley and  Balkman are close to Artest sized. Singleton or Dudley might be the most similar in game. All are essentially poor man&#039;s Artests, fittable into a role that Artest could fit without the personality management challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powe, Singleton, Dudley and  Balkman are close to Artest sized. Singleton or Dudley might be the most similar in game. All are essentially poor man&#8217;s Artests, fittable into a role that Artest could fit without the personality management challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: Mountain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Artest 1 year might well be worthwhile.  I didn&#039;t make that connection. Popovich has a better shot at limiting Artest&#039;s shots (the main on the court problem) than too low-key, not willing to fight /control Adelman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artest 1 year might well be worthwhile.  I didn&#8217;t make that connection. Popovich has a better shot at limiting Artest&#8217;s shots (the main on the court problem) than too low-key, not willing to fight /control Adelman.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Varner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Varner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mountain,

I think the Spurs might find a few MLE bargains this offseason. For example, I was talking with Anup Shah of Rockets Buzz last night and we were both wondering about the cost/availability of Ron Artest in this economy. He&#039;s worth more than the MLE, but can he get it? Might he prefer a 1 year MLE to see if the economy improves or if he can cash in on some 2010 money. Only one example, but the Spurs are best served to wait to see if they can catch a steal in July.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mountain,</p>
<p>I think the Spurs might find a few MLE bargains this offseason. For example, I was talking with Anup Shah of Rockets Buzz last night and we were both wondering about the cost/availability of Ron Artest in this economy. He&#8217;s worth more than the MLE, but can he get it? Might he prefer a 1 year MLE to see if the economy improves or if he can cash in on some 2010 money. Only one example, but the Spurs are best served to wait to see if they can catch a steal in July.</p>
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		<title>By: Mountain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parker will become #1 and extend Duncan and Ginobili for a few more years.  But they need to re-do the SF position.  Let Finley go. Cut Bowen back to 10 minutes or trade. 
Rebounding needs to be a higher priority from that spot or a tweener forward to go with Bonner.  Go after Powe hard or  get Singleton. Or try to trade for Dudley or Balkman. Really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parker will become #1 and extend Duncan and Ginobili for a few more years.  But they need to re-do the SF position.  Let Finley go. Cut Bowen back to 10 minutes or trade.<br />
Rebounding needs to be a higher priority from that spot or a tweener forward to go with Bonner.  Go after Powe hard or  get Singleton. Or try to trade for Dudley or Balkman. Really.</p>
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		<title>By: Duaneo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duaneo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One reason I think the Spurs have been able to dominate the Suns this past decade is because of our personnel.  Tony is better than Amare, Joe Johnson, and Marion.  Yet he has no qualms playing third fiddle, but those other three would rather be the star on a losing squad than play second to Nash.  This is one reason why I believe the Spurs can continue to be successful in the post Duncan era.  Going after the right players and having a great coach can get it done.  Hey, it worked for Detroit in 04 and we&#039;ve all seen what Amare, Joe, and Shawn can do without Nash / D&#039;Antonio....not much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One reason I think the Spurs have been able to dominate the Suns this past decade is because of our personnel.  Tony is better than Amare, Joe Johnson, and Marion.  Yet he has no qualms playing third fiddle, but those other three would rather be the star on a losing squad than play second to Nash.  This is one reason why I believe the Spurs can continue to be successful in the post Duncan era.  Going after the right players and having a great coach can get it done.  Hey, it worked for Detroit in 04 and we&#8217;ve all seen what Amare, Joe, and Shawn can do without Nash / D&#8217;Antonio&#8230;.not much.</p>
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		<title>By: gargalen</title>
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		<dc:creator>gargalen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In the past Tim Varner has claimed that Duncan is the window. I am beginning to believe that, with Buford as GM, Popovich as coach and Parker at the point, this team can continue to excel for some time.&quot;

Don&#039;t delude yourself that the Spurs can continue to &quot;excel for some time&quot; without Duncan.  Tim Duncan is the greatest Power Forward to play the game of basketball.  Once he retires the Spurs will drop back to the rest of the league.  If I were running the Spurs I&#039;d be all in to win now; I really thought they would make a move at the deadline because I don&#039;t think they can beat the Lakers as is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In the past Tim Varner has claimed that Duncan is the window. I am beginning to believe that, with Buford as GM, Popovich as coach and Parker at the point, this team can continue to excel for some time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t delude yourself that the Spurs can continue to &#8220;excel for some time&#8221; without Duncan.  Tim Duncan is the greatest Power Forward to play the game of basketball.  Once he retires the Spurs will drop back to the rest of the league.  If I were running the Spurs I&#8217;d be all in to win now; I really thought they would make a move at the deadline because I don&#8217;t think they can beat the Lakers as is.</p>
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		<title>By: Latin_D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Latin_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate Tony&#039;s last two games, but this sounds like too much to me, Graydon. Parker is a prodigy at penetrating defenses, and his speed is second to none. Part of his success comes from teams not realizing that in a Duncan and Manu-less Spurs, Tony is the only real threat. He should&#039;ve been doubled every time he grabbed the ball, tripled! Every time he left the court last night the Blazers made a run. Let Finley and Bonner kill you, if they can.

Tony is definitely a top-20 player in the NBA, but I believe the &quot;team general&quot; position is overrated. Maybe in a less experienced team, or in a team that doesn&#039;t have Pop for a Coach. As long as Pop sits on that bench, the defense will answer to him in my book. He&#039;s the one that gets in Matt&#039;s (or Tony&#039;s, too) face when he&#039;s camping in the area, or takes a player out immediately when a rotation is missed.

I&#039;d love to see Pop coach a team without the Big Three. I think we would see levels of coaching we&#039;re not used to from him, simply because Tim is more or less the perfect player.

Hm. Hopefully I didn&#039;t sound too critical of Tony. He&#039;s taken his game to another level in the last two seasons, and as Tim said he could still develop a reliable 3-point shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate Tony&#8217;s last two games, but this sounds like too much to me, Graydon. Parker is a prodigy at penetrating defenses, and his speed is second to none. Part of his success comes from teams not realizing that in a Duncan and Manu-less Spurs, Tony is the only real threat. He should&#8217;ve been doubled every time he grabbed the ball, tripled! Every time he left the court last night the Blazers made a run. Let Finley and Bonner kill you, if they can.</p>
<p>Tony is definitely a top-20 player in the NBA, but I believe the &#8220;team general&#8221; position is overrated. Maybe in a less experienced team, or in a team that doesn&#8217;t have Pop for a Coach. As long as Pop sits on that bench, the defense will answer to him in my book. He&#8217;s the one that gets in Matt&#8217;s (or Tony&#8217;s, too) face when he&#8217;s camping in the area, or takes a player out immediately when a rotation is missed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see Pop coach a team without the Big Three. I think we would see levels of coaching we&#8217;re not used to from him, simply because Tim is more or less the perfect player.</p>
<p>Hm. Hopefully I didn&#8217;t sound too critical of Tony. He&#8217;s taken his game to another level in the last two seasons, and as Tim said he could still develop a reliable 3-point shot.</p>
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		<title>By: ChillFAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChillFAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parker has gotten a reputation as the worst of our Big Three simply because of he plays point guard.  Some diehards don&#039;t want a scoring point guard and he is the worst of the 3 on defense.   There&#039;s the misconception that Manu was robbed for a Finals MVP in 2005, and then observers of the game know Parker&#039;s scoring stats won it for him in 2007, while Duncan dominated defensively.  In the NBA reality, a point guard needs to be a scoring threat first before he can distribute. The Jazz went to that next level when Stockton took more threes.  Steve Nash didn&#039;t go to that All-Star level until he was forced to look for his shot more with the Suns. People don&#039;t understand that Tony pulls up for his shot unexpectedly early in offensive sets when that is exactly what Pop tells him to do.  Parker&#039;s detractors don&#039;t realize he was the difference in the Suns series, the difference by a million miles.  In 2001, the Spurs &quot;won the lottery,&quot; just like David and Tim&#039;s years. Joe Johnson and Pau Gasol are great players. Right now, Tony has been better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parker has gotten a reputation as the worst of our Big Three simply because of he plays point guard.  Some diehards don&#8217;t want a scoring point guard and he is the worst of the 3 on defense.   There&#8217;s the misconception that Manu was robbed for a Finals MVP in 2005, and then observers of the game know Parker&#8217;s scoring stats won it for him in 2007, while Duncan dominated defensively.  In the NBA reality, a point guard needs to be a scoring threat first before he can distribute. The Jazz went to that next level when Stockton took more threes.  Steve Nash didn&#8217;t go to that All-Star level until he was forced to look for his shot more with the Suns. People don&#8217;t understand that Tony pulls up for his shot unexpectedly early in offensive sets when that is exactly what Pop tells him to do.  Parker&#8217;s detractors don&#8217;t realize he was the difference in the Suns series, the difference by a million miles.  In 2001, the Spurs &#8220;won the lottery,&#8221; just like David and Tim&#8217;s years. Joe Johnson and Pau Gasol are great players. Right now, Tony has been better.</p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NL: I have thought the same thing, extending the window with Parker and using money wisely as the Spurs do. Of course, the team wouldn&#039;t be based on Parker as it has been with Timmy, but as you have pointed out, no team ever will! 

If the Spurs would have gone ahead and mortgaged their future acquiring Carter or someone like him, we would have boosted our chances of winning now, but at the expense of losing that highly likely possibility of continue to be respectable or contenders for a while. Remember, once a small market team stops winning, it can take a decade to be relevant again. This is why Duncan was so historically important to the franchise, he saved it from ridding Robinson until he faded and having the team gone through some rough years before starting over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NL: I have thought the same thing, extending the window with Parker and using money wisely as the Spurs do. Of course, the team wouldn&#8217;t be based on Parker as it has been with Timmy, but as you have pointed out, no team ever will! </p>
<p>If the Spurs would have gone ahead and mortgaged their future acquiring Carter or someone like him, we would have boosted our chances of winning now, but at the expense of losing that highly likely possibility of continue to be respectable or contenders for a while. Remember, once a small market team stops winning, it can take a decade to be relevant again. This is why Duncan was so historically important to the franchise, he saved it from ridding Robinson until he faded and having the team gone through some rough years before starting over.</p>
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		<title>By: NL</title>
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		<dc:creator>NL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same exact thoughts as far as Tim Duncan versus Tony Parker being the window.  Clearly, no one will fill Tim Duncan&#039;s shoes when he decides to hang them up, but I&#039;m beginning to believe Pop won&#039;t retire until Tony Parker does.   Surrounded with the right players, who knows what can happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same exact thoughts as far as Tim Duncan versus Tony Parker being the window.  Clearly, no one will fill Tim Duncan&#8217;s shoes when he decides to hang them up, but I&#8217;m beginning to believe Pop won&#8217;t retire until Tony Parker does.   Surrounded with the right players, who knows what can happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we can just beat Cleveland, we should look into trading Duncan when his value is still high and so that he doesn&#039;t clog up our 2010 plans - kidding! 

TP&#039;s play really makes you wonder how good he would be if he was the star on a team - I can definitely see him averaging 25+ points per game with 7-8 assists. But I&#039;m sure he also appreciates and loves the opportunity to play on a team that competes for a championship every year rather than putting up big numbers on a losing team. 

I agree with what was said in the article, Duncan should be rested for as long as it takes, even if it means he&#039;s out for all of March. Without him being 100% (or very close), we&#039;re going to struggle to win even one round in the playoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we can just beat Cleveland, we should look into trading Duncan when his value is still high and so that he doesn&#8217;t clog up our 2010 plans &#8211; kidding! </p>
<p>TP&#8217;s play really makes you wonder how good he would be if he was the star on a team &#8211; I can definitely see him averaging 25+ points per game with 7-8 assists. But I&#8217;m sure he also appreciates and loves the opportunity to play on a team that competes for a championship every year rather than putting up big numbers on a losing team. </p>
<p>I agree with what was said in the article, Duncan should be rested for as long as it takes, even if it means he&#8217;s out for all of March. Without him being 100% (or very close), we&#8217;re going to struggle to win even one round in the playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: dtm</title>
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		<dc:creator>dtm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was hoping pops was going to get run. it would make more sense to throw pops in there with parker running the show where the offense is a little more free flowing and where the spurs might be looking to run more.

nonetheless, the spurs continue to surprise shorthanded, but regardless of who is suited up to play and who isn&#039;t, coach popp always has the 5 on the court playing defense, and that always gives us a chance against most teams in this league.

finley and bonners hot 3pt shooting is overshadowing masons slump in that area (1 for last 10). hopefully he gets it going again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was hoping pops was going to get run. it would make more sense to throw pops in there with parker running the show where the offense is a little more free flowing and where the spurs might be looking to run more.</p>
<p>nonetheless, the spurs continue to surprise shorthanded, but regardless of who is suited up to play and who isn&#8217;t, coach popp always has the 5 on the court playing defense, and that always gives us a chance against most teams in this league.</p>
<p>finley and bonners hot 3pt shooting is overshadowing masons slump in that area (1 for last 10). hopefully he gets it going again.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Varner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Varner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two quick thoughts:

1) Tony looked just as dominant to begin the season---for a short spell he led the league in scoring and had that 50 point blow up against the Wolves. In other words, he&#039;s a better player--not the same player--but a better one than his previous seasons.

2)  I&#039;m not convinced Tony has hit his ceiling. For example, he still does n0t have a 3 point shot. If defenses had to respect that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two quick thoughts:</p>
<p>1) Tony looked just as dominant to begin the season&#8212;for a short spell he led the league in scoring and had that 50 point blow up against the Wolves. In other words, he&#8217;s a better player&#8211;not the same player&#8211;but a better one than his previous seasons.</p>
<p>2)  I&#8217;m not convinced Tony has hit his ceiling. For example, he still does n0t have a 3 point shot. If defenses had to respect that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about the rest of you, but I enjoyed the last two games more than any games I can remember.  There was no stress.  If we lost, well, we were missing Tim and Manu.  But if we won...Ahhhh.  Beautiful.  As we kept playing hard and well, I kept smiling and smiling and giggling like a kid.  I felt like a parent who had to got a middle school play:  no expectations, just don&#039;t bore me.  And then, finding out that it was pretty good, and then really good.  And enjoying yourself.  I don&#039;t know if any of that makes sense, but those games made me happy.

(Also, a good side note:  it is possible that somewhere down the road we might have to play Dallas or Portland in the playoffs; what might they think then about their chances if they couldn&#039;t beat us now?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about the rest of you, but I enjoyed the last two games more than any games I can remember.  There was no stress.  If we lost, well, we were missing Tim and Manu.  But if we won&#8230;Ahhhh.  Beautiful.  As we kept playing hard and well, I kept smiling and smiling and giggling like a kid.  I felt like a parent who had to got a middle school play:  no expectations, just don&#8217;t bore me.  And then, finding out that it was pretty good, and then really good.  And enjoying yourself.  I don&#8217;t know if any of that makes sense, but those games made me happy.</p>
<p>(Also, a good side note:  it is possible that somewhere down the road we might have to play Dallas or Portland in the playoffs; what might they think then about their chances if they couldn&#8217;t beat us now?)</p>
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