Comments on: Some Thoughts on the Jefferson Trade

By: pastrypride

pastrypride — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:54:48 +0000

Jaceman: that makes sense to me. I feel like we have more than enough 3 point shooters. Mason had a very good regular season, and we could probably get something for him, though I don’t see him as really necessary to our offense how that Finley’s coming off the bench.

By: pastrypride

pastrypride — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:53:04 +0000

Jefferson’s PER is a bit of a worry. Obviously, the trade would be even better if he were a better rebounder and passer than he is, with all else held equal.

But the importance of PER can be overestimated in this case. PER measures all-around output, but I think there’s one aspect of output that we were looking for above all others at this position: perimeter offense, especially being able to create his own shots. And offensively, Jefferson looks pretty good to me. His FG% last season wasn’t exceptional (.44), but this is somewhat balanced by his high 3FG% (.397) and his good FT% (.805). His true shooting was .554. I didn’t do a really exhaustive search, but found that this is lower than Danny Granger’s and Manu Ginobili’s, but higher than: Joe Johnson’s (.534), Hedo Turkoglu’s (.541) and Richard Hamilton (.521 last year; his highest was .553 in 2005-06).

Equally importantly, he’s athletic and can create his own shot. He can do some of the things Manu does, with which we’re a very good team, without which we get bounced in the first round.

Finally, I don’t think PER really measures defense at all. Look at Bruce Bowen’s PER. From what I read, it sounds like Jefferson is a serviceable defender, if not a “defensive ace”.

So Jefferson looks to me like he’s maybe close to average “all around”, but well above average offensively. Should be a great fit.

By: senorglory

senorglory — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:02:20 +0000

Pop has stated that Jefferson will draw the tough defensive assignment.

By: Jaceman

Jaceman — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:25:32 +0000

Am I still the only person that thinks we should try to get as much value as possible out of a Roger Mason trade before anything else?

By: dtm

dtm — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:51:12 +0000

gooden still have that “sports hernia” injury?

if he’s not 110% please do not sign him!

By: Juan

Juan — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:59:25 +0000

And the uprise of hill.

On gooden, he creates his own shot, that’s an asset that doesn’t have bonner. I just think that if gooden stays, hell learn the system better.

By: Juan

Juan — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:55:32 +0000

Guys,great comments by everyone. I enjoyed reading them.

Even if Bowen comes back, he will get less minutes because of jr and

By: Daniel B

Daniel B — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:47:50 +0000

I don’t know whether the relationship between Pop and Bowen truly has deteriorated, but Bowen has already said himself that if he gets bought out buy the Bucks, his first choice of team to go to would be the Spurs. He said it in that video that is posted right on this website.

By: Matt Steele

Matt Steele — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:17:51 +0000

I just read that Wojnarowski Yahoo article and saw that same line about Bowen and Pop’s relationship that Chris K pointed out above…

Any truth to that?

By: Ryan Carey

Ryan Carey — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:54:26 +0000

I think the Jefferson trade is great. He will fill the SF spot better than anyone has since the days of Sean Elliott. But for us to become a true multi-year contender we need a young talented big man to start next to Timmy. If we can do this, and soon, Timmy will be able to play until he’s 38 like David Robinson. If we don’t Timmy will be burnt out in 2, 3 years tops.

By: Timothy Varner

Timothy Varner — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:43:12 +0000

He’s not a great fit defensively. Pop gave him a DNP-CD in the final playoff game.

By: WheresGooden

WheresGooden — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:36:28 +0000

Anyone want to answer Casper’s question? I’ve been pondering the same thing: Drew Gooden was pretty not bad from what I saw. In fact it seemed like he was the only non-starter who would ever score in the playoffs at times. Anything on him? Even a mention?

By: Wayne

Wayne — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:21:34 +0000

I’m a stickler for facts when it isn’t something I’m involved with.

By: Mr. Cameron Rose

Mr. Cameron Rose — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:11:55 +0000

If anything I think RJ is a follower. He wont be a problem in SA

By: Chris K.

Chris K. — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:14:30 +0000

Oh, and Manu is not going to guard Kobe, that is Georgie Hill’s job, along with Jefferson, Gist?!, and Manu.