Comments on: Mahinmi to Join National Team http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/ A San Antonio Spurs Blog Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:05:27 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: SpursfanSteve http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6739 SpursfanSteve Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:36:08 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6739 i'll also be happy if Mahinmini gives us a good Malik Rose impersonation. Or Nazr Mohammed's good year. Anything close to a 10/10 for his first year seeing real minutes will be great. i’ll also be happy if Mahinmini gives us a good Malik Rose impersonation. Or Nazr Mohammed’s good year. Anything close to a 10/10 for his first year seeing real minutes will be great.

]]> By: SpursfanSteve http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6719 SpursfanSteve Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:25:29 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6719 Kaveh, i think he is probably overpaid. I've said before hes not a superstar. But he is athletic. I dont know of any other teams who have a 4th option on offense as good as him, lakers included. Ariza would have been good, i definitely agree, but i'm one of the few who see George Hill as the athletic wing guy that plays D. he might not can guard big 3's, but he can guard anything smaller than that. Hes great on ball and hes pretty good at helping off the weakside as well. Same with his transition D. By the end of the year, if Pop will play him (and theres no reason for him not to), he'll be pretty close to lockdown. And theres no reason for him not to end up as good as Bowen or better in the near future. He's a few inches shorter at only 6'2, but hes quicker and way more athletic. I'm not sure about his wingspan, but the way he plays, it looks about the same as Bowen's. I still dont see how RJ wont fit with the Spurs. The guy has always been very professional. Coming here, he knows he's not going to be "the man" and hes had career bests when he didnt have to be (in NJ with Kidd and Kmart). I think hes going to accept his role and be happy to have a chance to compete. Hes better than previous role players we've had. If he ends up being anywhere near Sean Elliott, i'll be happy. Kaveh, i think he is probably overpaid. I’ve said before hes not a superstar. But he is athletic. I dont know of any other teams who have a 4th option on offense as good as him, lakers included. Ariza would have been good, i definitely agree, but i’m one of the few who see George Hill as the athletic wing guy that plays D. he might not can guard big 3’s, but he can guard anything smaller than that. Hes great on ball and hes pretty good at helping off the weakside as well. Same with his transition D. By the end of the year, if Pop will play him (and theres no reason for him not to), he’ll be pretty close to lockdown. And theres no reason for him not to end up as good as Bowen or better in the near future. He’s a few inches shorter at only 6′2, but hes quicker and way more athletic. I’m not sure about his wingspan, but the way he plays, it looks about the same as Bowen’s.

I still dont see how RJ wont fit with the Spurs. The guy has always been very professional. Coming here, he knows he’s not going to be “the man” and hes had career bests when he didnt have to be (in NJ with Kidd and Kmart). I think hes going to accept his role and be happy to have a chance to compete. Hes better than previous role players we’ve had. If he ends up being anywhere near Sean Elliott, i’ll be happy.

]]> By: kaveh http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6679 kaveh Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:39:17 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6679 spursfansteve, no jefferson was not on that list. I think I may have given you guys amisconception of my opinion regarding jefferson. you guys seem to think that I believe jefferson is a slouch. I think jefferson is a good player. I just don't think he is as good as you guys think. in my opinion rj is slightly above average. and he may not fit in as well as you think with the spurs. you guys needed an athletic wing player who plays great D. trevor ariza would have been perfect. spursfansteve, no jefferson was not on that list. I think I may have given you guys amisconception of my opinion regarding jefferson. you guys seem to think that I believe jefferson is a slouch. I think jefferson is a good player. I just don’t think he is as good as you guys think. in my opinion rj is slightly above average. and he may not fit in as well as you think with the spurs. you guys needed an athletic wing player who plays great D. trevor ariza would have been perfect.

]]> By: SpursfanSteve http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6668 SpursfanSteve Sun, 09 Aug 2009 04:17:50 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6668 and i agree with Red. Oberto was an excellent fit in the system. He was Scola light, they both even look like cavemen. and i agree with Red. Oberto was an excellent fit in the system. He was Scola light, they both even look like cavemen.

]]> By: SpursfanSteve http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6667 SpursfanSteve Sun, 09 Aug 2009 04:16:37 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6667 Kaveh, i do admire your persistance, even if i dont agree with everything you say. but i also dont see RJ's name on that second list, which makes me happy- i think if he was TRULY as much of a volume shooter as you claim, either one of his seasons with the Bucks or Nets would be on there. :D I still say its a great move. Kaveh, i do admire your persistance, even if i dont agree with everything you say.

but i also dont see RJ’s name on that second list, which makes me happy- i think if he was TRULY as much of a volume shooter as you claim, either one of his seasons with the Bucks or Nets would be on there. :D I still say its a great move.

]]> By: TheRed&Black http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6650 TheRed&Black Sat, 08 Aug 2009 13:16:30 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6650 Oh Kaveh, As much as you Lakers fans get underneath my nails, you are one funny AND persistant dude. Interesting article. Imma miss Oberto. He had some nice passing skills, and he knew the system well. I wouldn't go as far as saying +- is as good a stat as any. Oh Kaveh,

As much as you Lakers fans get underneath my nails, you are one funny AND persistant dude. Interesting article. Imma miss Oberto. He had some nice passing skills, and he knew the system well. I wouldn’t go as far as saying +- is as good a stat as any.

]]> By: Kaveh http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6648 Kaveh Sat, 08 Aug 2009 04:11:54 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6648 This is off topic, but I thought that a few here would find this article interesting: http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3140#more-3140 This is a list of the most underrated and overrated player seasons of the 2000's. I thought that you guys would be interested to know that the Spurs took down the 1st and 2nd spot! Also, the 7th spot I thought would be very illuminating. Everyone here always gets on me because i site the +- on off stat for Jefferson. His was very bad last year for the Bucks. In reply, you guys will point to Bonner this last year who had a very high +- and say: see the metric you are using is flawed. Well, Bonner's 2009 season got the 7th most underrated season of the 2000's! That's pretty high i must say. And he is using a different metric (explained at the link) than +-, but still came up to the same conclusion. Matt Bonner had an excellent and very under-rated season for you guys last year. And on the flip side, +- is as good a stat to use as any...and now back to RJ, lol...just kidding. Spurs in the top 10 under-rated list: 1) Oberto 2008 2) Brent Barry 2007 7) Matt Bonner 2009 This is off topic, but I thought that a few here would find this article interesting: http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3140#more-3140

This is a list of the most underrated and overrated player seasons of the 2000’s. I thought that you guys would be interested to know that the Spurs took down the 1st and 2nd spot! Also, the 7th spot I thought would be very illuminating. Everyone here always gets on me because i site the +- on off stat for Jefferson. His was very bad last year for the Bucks. In reply, you guys will point to Bonner this last year who had a very high +- and say: see the metric you are using is flawed. Well, Bonner’s 2009 season got the 7th most underrated season of the 2000’s! That’s pretty high i must say. And he is using a different metric (explained at the link) than +-, but still came up to the same conclusion. Matt Bonner had an excellent and very under-rated season for you guys last year. And on the flip side, +- is as good a stat to use as any…and now back to RJ, lol…just kidding.

Spurs in the top 10 under-rated list:

1) Oberto 2008
2) Brent Barry 2007
7) Matt Bonner 2009

]]> By: Les_Bleus http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6641 Les_Bleus Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:30:17 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6641 He does and was huge in the win vs Italy (20pts, 8rbds). France has some good players but to sum up their troubles in international play, you can say that they have basically the same qualities (athleticism, Defense, slashing) and drawbacks (distance and free-throw shooting, off the ball movement) as Team USA, only the talent is obviously inferior. They came close to qualify for the 04 and 08 Olympics and also lost to then powerhouse Greece on a Diamantidis buzzerbeater in the 05 Eurobasket semis. They also managed to finish 6th at the 06' World championship, without an injured Parker. France fielded good squads repeatedly and basically dreamed of european titles everytime. But the problem is, when they lose an elimination game they just don't have the mental resilience to gather the effort necessary to win the ensuing games, which determines the final rankings and thus the berths for global tournaments. He does and was huge in the win vs Italy (20pts, 8rbds).
France has some good players but to sum up their troubles in international play, you can say that they have basically the same qualities (athleticism, Defense, slashing) and drawbacks (distance and free-throw shooting, off the ball movement) as Team USA, only the talent is obviously inferior.
They came close to qualify for the 04 and 08 Olympics and also lost to then powerhouse Greece on a Diamantidis buzzerbeater in the 05 Eurobasket semis. They also managed to finish 6th at the 06′ World championship, without an injured Parker. France fielded good squads repeatedly and basically dreamed of european titles everytime. But the problem is, when they lose an elimination game they just don’t have the mental resilience to gather the effort necessary to win the ensuing games, which determines the final rankings and thus the berths for global tournaments.

]]> By: Jason http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6640 Jason Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:12:00 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6640 The French must be pretty good cause so for we haven't even mentioned Boris Diaw and I thought Mikael Peitrus was on the team, but it looks like they've got his older brother Florent Peitrus playing forward, wonder if he's any good. The French must be pretty good cause so for we haven’t even mentioned Boris Diaw and I thought Mikael Peitrus was on the team, but it looks like they’ve got his older brother Florent Peitrus playing forward, wonder if he’s any good.

]]> By: JTC http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6639 JTC Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:08:41 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6639 Hey, where can we watch the eurobasket games? Hey, where can we watch the eurobasket games?

]]> By: Will http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6638 Will Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:51:06 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6638 Batum is playing for the French NT and was actually the key to the win against Italy. Batum is playing for the French NT and was actually the key to the win against Italy.

]]> By: therealkman http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6637 therealkman Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:48:30 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6637 The French has a pretty decent team with the likes of Mihinmi, Turiaf and Noah in the frontcourt and Parker and Nando in the backcourt. Is Batum playing for the French Nationals to? The French has a pretty decent team with the likes of Mihinmi, Turiaf and Noah in the frontcourt and Parker and Nando in the backcourt. Is Batum playing for the French Nationals to?

]]> By: Les_Bleus http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6635 Les_Bleus Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:14:53 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6635 Some PT against quality competition can only help Mahinmi for the nba. Not sure Finland's frontcourt really counts as "quality competition", but Italy surely does. If France advances their opponent will probably be Belgium (with Lakers M'Benga and Real Madrid PF Hervelle who is a really good Euroleague player) or Bosnia (which is pretty much a ballers factory like its Balkans neighbors Serbia, Slovenia and Croatia). For a guy like Ian who wasn't playing a lot in Euroleague with Pau and then spent a lot of time in the D-league, it's the opportunity to see the floor against nba players, draftees, prospects or good euroleague PF/C. For Spurs fans, it's almost a preview of what he could do against nba backups this season. As great a program as Austin is, it's still a D-League team. Even if some of the undrafted guys can help a team win in Europe, it's not uncommon for them to be buried on the bench there. Rod Benson held the 1 game D-league rebounding record but sit a lot before being waved altogether by his French Team (who got absolutely killed in Euroleague play btw). My point is, Ian hasn't faced good frontcourt competition consistently yet and it's exactly what he needs to translate his potential into production Some PT against quality competition can only help Mahinmi for the nba. Not sure Finland’s frontcourt really counts as “quality competition”, but Italy surely does. If France advances their opponent will probably be Belgium (with Lakers M’Benga and Real Madrid PF Hervelle who is a really good Euroleague player) or Bosnia (which is pretty much a ballers factory like its Balkans neighbors Serbia, Slovenia and Croatia).
For a guy like Ian who wasn’t playing a lot in Euroleague with Pau and then spent a lot of time in the D-league, it’s the opportunity to see the floor against nba players, draftees, prospects or good euroleague PF/C.
For Spurs fans, it’s almost a preview of what he could do against nba backups this season. As great a program as Austin is, it’s still a D-League team. Even if some of the undrafted guys can help a team win in Europe, it’s not uncommon for them to be buried on the bench there. Rod Benson held the 1 game D-league rebounding record but sit a lot before being waved altogether by his French Team (who got absolutely killed in Euroleague play btw).
My point is, Ian hasn’t faced good frontcourt competition consistently yet and it’s exactly what he needs to translate his potential into production

]]> By: BB http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6634 BB Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:31:11 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6634 Great post, guys. Particularly the coach's comments, in spite the mangly translator (learn French---language of the Spurs' future/future Spur!) Eurobasket's (right tourney?) turning out almost like a bonus summer league for us. Y'know, in spite of Ginobili's injury last offseason, I think international competition has contributed significantly to his swagger over the years. It didn't hurt that he played for one of the elite national teams, of course. Of course of course, 'course I don't think this will necessarily help Mahinmi prepare for the NBA. But a call up to the national team after a year off the court can only boost the young man's confidence. Great post, guys. Particularly the coach’s comments, in spite the mangly translator (learn French—language of the Spurs’ future/future Spur!)

Eurobasket’s (right tourney?) turning out almost like a bonus summer league for us.

Y’know, in spite of Ginobili’s injury last offseason, I think international competition has contributed significantly to his swagger over the years. It didn’t hurt that he played for one of the elite national teams, of course.

Of course of course, ‘course I don’t think this will necessarily help Mahinmi prepare for the NBA. But a call up to the national team after a year off the court can only boost the young man’s confidence.

]]> By: Bentley http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/08/06/mahinmi-to-join-national-team/comment-page-1/#comment-6628 Bentley Fri, 07 Aug 2009 03:50:25 +0000 http://www.48minutesofhell.com/?p=3749#comment-6628 I'm also excited for Ian's potential development playing overseas this summer for France, he has tremendous upside. And on another note, I just found a website of an analyst that says based on his calculations of schedules and other factors that he predicts the Spurs will win the title this season. You should check it out. http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=723 I’m also excited for Ian’s potential development playing overseas this summer for France, he has tremendous upside.

And on another note, I just found a website of an analyst that says based on his calculations of schedules and other factors that he predicts the Spurs will win the title this season. You should check it out.

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=723

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