Comments on: Should the Spurs Buy a Ticket to the Stephen Jackson Sweepstakes?

By: Jaceman

Jaceman — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 06:32:12 +0000

@Bert

Do I want Shane Battier? Sure, and I want Kobe Bryant too. My point is it’s not reasonable, and you know the Rockets aren’t trading Battier.

By: Jaceman

Jaceman — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 06:28:56 +0000

@Kaveh:

Jackson is more athletic and bigger than Jefferson? I’m sorry, but which Jackson and which Jefferson are we talking about here? Darnell and Dontell? Jefferson is listed at 6-7 225 lbs, boasts a much more athletic game attacking the basket. Jackson is listed at 6-5 218 lbs. I’ve also seen Jackson play, he’s anything but athletic, but he plays smart. Jackson is a crafty player, but he’s anything but an athletic one.

By: duaneofly

duaneofly — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:58:28 +0000

Lol thanks for that link Kaveh, listening to Jim Gray and especially Bill Walton’s commentary on what’s happening cracks me up.

Also you’re right, Ron started it by going into the stands, but Jackson and Jermaine O’neal looked like they were kids in a candy shop while they jumped into the fray and started punching people.

By: buns

buns — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:28:34 +0000

He stopped shaving for too long?

By: Bert

Bert — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:48:42 +0000

I don’t know if this is possible but if a players contract can be altered then I say bring jackson over. I think the only thing you can do to a contract is extended. But if it is possible.

Finley right now is only a trade piece and Bonner is some what of a no show and Mason is the best of this 3 trade assets.

The best option for a trade would be to trade finley and bonner for jackson.

But long term he isn’t the answer. He’s good now but later.

We have to worry about defense. The legendary spurs defense was absent last year. Trying for battie is better trade for now and later. Short contract and great value.

That would be a better trade than for Jackson. If he hadn’t left after 2003. I still say the spurs couldve won 6 straight championships but hey people have their own intrest which for jackson hasn’t panned out very well.

Defense should be a concerned right now than offense.

But let Pop decide. How many times has he been wrong.

By: NL

NL — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:35:04 +0000

I wouldn’t be worried about the character issues with Jax but as Tim stated in his post, the length of the contract, which could handcuff our ability to make good decisions in the future.

In an ideal world, if we could pick him up for the next two years, I wouldn’t hesitate one bit. Phil Jackson is credited, and rightly so, for properly managing so many big egos on one team. The Spurs FO is credited for bringing in professionals – so when they have a Dennis Rodman, or a Glenn Robinson or SJax, they might not have the track record of a Tim Dunan, but they will be held in check and subscribe to Spurs’ philosophy.

By: Pok Flied Lice

Pok Flied Lice — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:18:13 +0000

I have a feeling alot of people assumed that Parker would unconditionally continue to lead this team after Duncan gets old, and Duncan would stay until he retires?
Captain Jack’s contract runs into 2013! Holy Crap! Think about that. It hinders the resigning of not just Manu, but Parker, Duncan and pretty much everybody else. Parker would still be in his prime at the end of his contract, that means he deserves a few mil more than this current one. More bad possibilities for the team than good ones.
I sure want the team to win a championship, but thinking of the Heat in the past couple years give me chills.

By: Joe

Joe — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:49:02 +0000

This is a Wikipedia entry, so take it for what it’s worth, but the ‘Reputation’ section in this link provides a fairly even-handed discussion of Jackson’s character issues. If anything, I came away with a much more positive impression of him than I had before reading the post.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jackson

By: Kaveh

Kaveh — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:16:13 +0000

I find it quite odd that everyone here thinks so badly of Ron Artest yet so highly of Jackson. The only bad thing Ron Artest has done is this…oh yeah, and the only bad think Jackson has done is this…see exact same video. By the way, who is worse, Jackson or Artest? Jackson is absolutely WAILING on a fan who didn’t even do anything. He is in the middle of EVERY fight.

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=1875149266123369069&hl=en&fs=true

By: Kaveh

Kaveh — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:10:11 +0000

I highly doubt that the Spurs would even think about signing Jackson. I highly respect Jackson’s play. In my opinion, Jack > Jefferson, even though most of you Spurs fans will disagree. While Jack is also a volume shooter, as is Jefferson, Jack also has a lot of other qualities which Jefferson lacks. Like athleticism + size, thus making him a hybrid player. A hybrid player who can play multiple positions and is excellent on defense. I wouldn’t look at Stephen’s numbers on D as he played on GSW. With the pace they play and the defense they have, Mutumbo in his prime would have bad defensive numbers if he was on GSW last year.

If you get both Jackson and still have Jefferson the Spurs will look good on paper, but in reality there would be chemistry issues. As i said before, both jackson and jefferson are volume shooters. Where will all the shots come from? Personally, as a lakers fan, i’d much rather have Jefferson/Jackson taking up shots than Parker/Manu/Duncan, especially since the big 3 shoot a great FG% and they also create major foul trouble for opposing teams. Not to mention that the big 3 are also great playmakers and facilitators.

Just look at the Usage % of Jackson and Jefferson! Both have USG% of 25%! This is ridiculously high for these players. USG% means the % of possessions which are designed for these players while they are in the game. Just to give you a comparison, i’m sure since most of you dislike Kobe, you think that he is a ball hog, etc. Kobe’s USG% is 32%. That means that while Kobe is in the game, he gets 32% of the laker’s possessions. Jefferson and Jackson both get 25%. Pau Gasol by comparison has a USG% of 20.4%. Of course even assists count in your USG% rate, so it’s not just shots/turnovers/etc.

These two are volume shooters. I bet if the Spurs could go back with hindsight and decide on a new course of action, it would be to NOT sign Jefferson and to sign Jackson. However, since Jefferson is signed, I see no way that the Spurs would also sign Jackson. They are too similar. Both very inefficient volume shooters. You can’t have BOTH of these guys on 1 team, since 1 is bad enough (just kidding).

What you guys need is a guy like Trevor Ariza. I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again. Ariza is like a young Bruce Bowen. That’s why you guys need. A guy who will hit the 3pt shot with high accuracy, but also has a very good sense of defense. A clutch shooter that is quick/athletic, understands his role and doesn’t shy from the big moments. Tough to find, but Jackson/Jefferson are not it.

There is only 1 ball on the court. I wonder what is going to give next season. Here are the USG% for the following player’s from last year.

Parker: 31.7% (as high as Kobe’s)
Duncan: 28.5%
Manu: 27.2%
Jefferson: 25%
Jackson: 25%

By: JJ

JJ — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:32:07 +0000

Group 2: One-year Bird cases like Hollins and George.

A team must receive permission from the player to trade him if he has signed a one-year contract (excluding options) and if the player (a) can become an Early Bird free agent at season’s end (player completes a two-year contract or finishes two consecutive years with the same team), (b) can become a Full Bird free agent at season’s end (player completes a three-year contract or finishes three consecutive seasons with the same team) or (c) has accepted a qualifying offer for the fifth season of a Rookie Scale contract.

Players on the following list lose their Bird rights and become a non-Bird free agent at season’s end if, like Hollins, they give consent to be traded in these circumstances.
Atlanta: Mario West
Boston: Eddie House* and Sam Cassell
Chicago: Ben Gordon
Dallas: Devean George*
Denver: Anthony Carter
Detroit: Walter Herrmann
Miami: Chris Quinn*
New Orleans: Ryan Bowen
Oklahoma City: Robert Swift
Orlando: Adonal Foyle
San Antonio: Michael Finley*

* House, George, Quinn and Finley would no longer be on this list if they exercised their player option for 2009-10 … and players are permitted to pick up options during the season. Who could ever forget Milt Palacio doing so at the trade deadline in 2002 so he could be included in a deal which sent Tony Delk and Rodney Rogers to Boston for Palacio, Randy Brown, 2002’s No. 22 overall pick (which Phoenix used on Casey Jacobsen) and a future All-Star guard named Joe Johnson?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-090124-25

By: Robby

Robby — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:08:02 +0000

How did Finley loose his right to first refusal? just curious… Thanks!

By: Greg

Greg — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:35:12 +0000

Not sure if anybody on here is a US Open fan, but David Robinson was recognized before the start of tonight’s US Open tournament along with Andre Agassi, Doug Flutie, and Mia Hamm. They were all recognized for their charitable foundations, Robinson for his Carver Acadamy that was started in San Antonio. I know there have been some posts about Robinson being inducted into the Hall of Fame, but as someone whose favorite player growing up was the Admiral, it was just a special moment to see him recognized on another big stage, and not just for his accomplishments on the court. He’s such a great person and it was a proud moment for this Spurs fan.

By: JJ

JJ — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:35:13 +0000

Finley no longer has right of first refusal Robby IIRC.

By: Robby

Robby — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:03:00 +0000

Tim,

Thank for checking on My blog

I like the wait and see approach as I think the best move would be before the Trade deadline…
If we will take Capt Jack, i’d give up Bonner, Finley (although he has rights of first refusal) and a future second pick if thats possible…Cheers!