Wednesday, October 28th, 2009...6:59 am
NBA Predictions: All Spurs Edition
Last week ESPN.com asked their national writers to predict the 2009-10 player award winners. Manu Ginobili and Gregg Popovich’s names were suggested in the 6th Man and Coach of the Year categories, but the list caused me to think about the entire Spurs roster.
The ESPN writers did a good job of identifying the major contenders in each category, and it’s difficult to argue with their choices. But thinking about the lists in relation to the Spurs’ roster gave rise to a little fun. If we were to have a conversation about darkhorse candidates in each group, you might be able to work a Spur into most of the conversations.
Rookie of the Year
DeJuan Blair’s name was omitted from ESPN’s list, which isn’t surprising. Most analysts expect Blake Griffin to win the award, and I agree even after yesterday morning’s news of a stress fractured patella. But, as I’ve written before, Blair is a good bet to lead rookies in per minute production. His per minute numbers could secure a few ROY votes in the final tallies.
The preseason numbers on Blair and Griffin suggest more of a contest than you might suspect.
| Min | Pts | Reb | FG% | EFF | EFF48M | |
| Blake Griffin | 28.1 | 13.7 | 8.1 | .569 | 18.71 | 32.01 |
| DeJuan Blair | 17.7 | 13.9 | 7.9 | .594 | 17.86 | 48.34 |
In the end, Blake Griffin’s per game averages will distance themselves from Blair. But it’s still a conversation to follow.
Most Improved Player
Here’s a name the ESPN writer’s missed: George Hill. Pop describes Hill as his favorite player; Manu Ginobili says Hill was the best Spur in camp. One advanced scout described Hill’s preseason play in these terms: “One of the most improved players I’ve seen in preseason. Grew leaps and bounds in confidence over summer. Doesn’t look like same player. Looks like he knows he belongs, we expect him to get significant minutes.”
But George Hill won’t even make this conversation unless he averages 6th Man minutes. Recent winners (Bobby Simmons, Boris Diaw, Monta Ellis, Hedo Turkoglu, and Danny Granger) of this award saw more minutes per game than Hill is likely to. But there is a little doubt that Hill’s growth will help motor the Spurs toward more than a few victories. He’s the pacesetter for Most Improved Spur.
Sixth Man of the Year
There is a school of thought which sees this award as Manu Ginobili’s to lose, provided he comes off the bench. The Spurs are a team with a history of advanced statistic case studies: Bruce Bowen’s defensive greatness, Tim Duncan’s quiet efficiency, and Manu Ginobili’s superstar status all find helpful explanation outside the traditional boxscore.
In the Spurs’ preseason game against Oklahoma City, Ginobili finished the first half 0-0 from the field but managed a plus/minus of +22, which led his teammates by a comfortable margin. With Ginobili on the court, the team raced right past the talented Zombie Sonics. He is a cliche: he makes his teammates better.
We’ll soon know whether Ginobili will anchor the second unit. But that second unit also features George Hill and DeJuan Blair, giving the Spurs a potentially devastating supply of reserves. It’s possible George Hill will play himself into the Sixth Man conversation, but it’s not something a betting person would entertain. In my estimation, politics are the driving force in every awards race, and I’m not certain Hill’s supporters will have much of a stump speech. He’s third party all the way.
In a similar way, it’s not typical to award a rookie with 6th Man honors. But at 20 minutes a game, DeJuan Blair could put up numbers which force him into the conversation. I wouldn’t have said this prior to camp, but I learned a few things about DeJuan Blair in the last month. I had confidence Blair’s rebounding would translate from the NCAA to the NBA-rebounding numbers tend to do that. Whether the undersized (in height only) power forward could offer the Spurs any offense, on the other hand, was an open question.
One of the great surprises of preseason was the realization that DeJuan Blair is capable of scoring in clusters. Blair averaged 9 shots per 17 minutes in the preseason, but he didn’t get there by mindlessly chucking the ball whenever it came to him. His offense is more polished than people give him credit, and he’s incredibly active. He can score the ball without the Spurs running plays for him. He follows his shot, and he collects points off the misfires of teammates. Couple that with his rebounding and Blair emerges as an under the radar 6th Man candidate.
Coach of the Year
There are always guys who couldn’t win an award enough times. Michael Jordan might well have won MVP every year the Bulls won a championship. But it never happens like that. Gregg Popovich has only been named COY once, in 2003. Doesn’t that seem wrong to you?
Despite all the newly infused talent, Popovich has a tough road ahead. The Spurs’ system is difficult to master and the roster is littered with new faces. Plus, there is the challenge of managing the minutes of aging veterans while developing young talent, such as DeJuan Blair and George Hill. And above all this, Popovich must push his team to reestablish their claim to defensive stalwart status. This forecasts as Popovich’s most challenging season with the Spurs. If the Spurs do well this season, Popovich is an easy-to-see COY candidate.
Defensive Player of the Year
Tim Duncan has been named to 12 All-Defensive teams, but has never won Defensive Player of the Year. That’s criminal. At 33, his opportunities at winning the award are dwindling. Still, it’s something to watch. The Spurs’ embarrassingly talented roster could provide Duncan the cushion to concentrate more of defense than in recent years, years in which he was still an All-League defender. Put Duncan in the running.
Manu Ginobili is a super stealth candidate for the award. According to Steve Ilardi’s defensive APM, Manu Ginobili is amongst the best perimeter defenders over the last six years. Here’s a list to consider:
- Ron Artest (+5.09)
- Shane Battier (+3.92)
- Manu Ginobili (+3.24)
- Bruce Bowen (+2.95)
- Trevor Ariza (+2.87)
There are a few younger and/or lower minute players (Thabo Sefolosha, +3.75) whose numbers are impressive, but I’ve not included them here. The point is not to create a definitive list, it’s to say that Manu Ginobili appears underrated as a defender. It’s something I plan to watch this season, and if the advanced statistics present him as an elite defender, especially against the apparent backdrop of past defensive success, I’ll write about it early and often. Ginobili has benefited from playing alongside Tim Duncan and Bruce Bowen, no doubt. But his surprisingly dominant defensive numbers invite at least a little scrutiny.
Part of the beauty of Manu Ginobili is how easy it is to overlook his brilliance. He’s a highlight reel, for sure. But his best stuff lurks beneath the surface. It’s difficult to quantify just how good he is. Thankfully, a tiny band of mathematically-gifted basketball lovers are hard at work putting handles on all of our slippery questions.
Executive of the Year
The ESPN writers didn’t vote on this award, but it doesn’t take much wit to know R.C. Buford deserves the recognition. 10x over. The Spurs are the winningest team in American sports since Buford came on as GM. How many times has he won this award? Weird, huh?
Most Valuable Player
As much as I’d love to trumpet Tim Duncan for this award, it will take an unexpectedly brilliant season (and more minutes than he is likely to play) for Duncan to lay claim to his third MVP award.
Tony Parker parades around in the realm of remote possibility. This would be a laughable suggestion, even as a remote candidate, if not for two things.
The first is that Tony Parker was one the best three or four players in basketball for November, December and January of 2008-9. His PER kept pace with LeBron James and Dwyane Wade and John Hollinger found more than one occasion to laud Parker.
The second reason is that the Spurs could put up a huge win total this year. If Parker plays his best for the full season and the Spurs rush past 60 wins, he might work himself into consideration. But even then, Dwight Howard, Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade and Chris Paul all have the marketing machines to more than marginalize TP. It doesn’t look like a Spur will win MVP this year.
Of course, thinking Spurs fans remember that Tony Parker was gassed, and injury-riddled, by the time the 2008-9 postseason swung around. Whose with me in hoping Parker doesn’t get near this conversation?
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7 Comments
October 28th, 2009 at 7:28 am
MVP-I see it as a two-man race this season between Lebron James and Chris Paul with Wade as a dark horse candidate. Every other MVP hopeful is on insanely deep teams that will limit some of their numbers and minutes while saving themselves for the playoffs. Meanwhile, James and Paul will be given the ball at the top of the key the entire game and asked to go one on five, giving them better stat lines.
Rookie of the Year: Griffin is the best rookie so assuming he comes back okay and plays enough this season it’s his and his alone. If not? Evans or Flynn are probably going to get enough touches and minutes to get the award even if Blair has better per minute numbers. This is voted on best per game averages and storylines as we saw last year when Brook Lopez was, in fact, the better rookie.
6th Man: I’d like to say that Manu is the favorite but I think we’ll see his minutes rolled back too far and his game feature more jumpers this year as he tries to last through the spring. I can easily see Odom winning it as an overreaction to the Lakers championship and run this year.
will come back with more later….thoughts on opening night here: http://sabankshots.blogspot.com
October 28th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Hey, Tim, you can just link to PTR and stop writing. I wrote that about Hill on Saturday…
“Hill might be able to compete for the most improved player award if he gets 20 minutes a game or so. His transformation is amazing. His shot is so smooth. He can finish in the paint and get to the line. He was 12th in efficiency for all guards with players like Kobe, Chris Paul, Wade, and Kevin Martin above him. That is some impressive company for a backup point guard in his second season.”
I think Hill can get the minutes he will need because our offense needs one of Hill, Parker, or Manu on the court at all times. With Manu resting games and Parker to see some rest since he played all summer, Hill should be the most consistent player in terms of minutes in our whole rotation.
I’m kidding of course about the stopping of the writing. This is an awesome article. So which Spur are you predicting for Finals MVP? I guess Tony would have to be the favorite.
October 28th, 2009 at 8:36 am
[...] the DeJuan Blair Hype has gone bezerk. We’re now talking ROY, apparently. Jesus, it was preseason. [...]
October 28th, 2009 at 10:06 am
A Spurs Finals mvp depends heavily on the opponent doesn’t it? As in, if it’s Celts, Tony, because he’d do the same thing Rose did to them last year. Or Magic, Duncan, because neutering Howard would be what decides the series. Or Cavs, Manu, because he makes mediocre coaches like Mike Brown look REALLY bad, and because he’d get Shaq to foul out by halftime of every. single. game.
October 28th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Hey guys,
interesting article (again)!
You say Gregg Popovich could (should?) have been COY more often, I agree, of course. He’s one of the best coaches the NBA has ever seen, BUT don’t you think that a guy called Jerry Sloan who has won 50 or more games in a season 9 times and 60 or more 3 times in his coaching career would have deserved the award at least once in his 24 years? I guess it should have been the case about 12-13 years ago, after all, he’s a HOF’er!!
Keep up the good work guys!!!
Go Spurs!! Can’t wait for the game tonight!!
October 28th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
We finally have a Jason Maxiell/Craig Smith/Paul Millsap player - a short, but stocky and wide banger. I hope George Hill can get around 25 minutes a game, but not sure how minutes are going to be spread.
It’s surprising Pop has only won COY once, but it plays into the low-key, under appreciated/oftentimes even ignored persona of the Spurs. I’m sure every player, analyst and coach would consider Pop top of the line. I am kind of pulling for Jerry Sloan to win the award.
Can’t wait for tonight. Spurs all the way!
October 28th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Really excited about tonight!!! I have made a commitment to the Spurs this year…bought the NBA pack from my cable vendor and every Spur game will be Spurs day…
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