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	<title>Comments on: San Antonio Spurs 85, Chicago Bulls 92: The Early Edition</title>
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		<title>By: TrueFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrueFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ThatBigGuy

Let&#039;s be clear that I&#039;m not insisting on playing younger guys just for the heck of it.  As you mentioned, if they really were *that* good, they&#039;d be getting the playing time over the veterans to begin with.

My point is that, when the team is clearly being not just outplayed but out-hustled, that&#039;s the perfect chance to give the young legs a chance to earn their stripes.</description>
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<p>Let&#8217;s be clear that I&#8217;m not insisting on playing younger guys just for the heck of it.  As you mentioned, if they really were *that* good, they&#8217;d be getting the playing time over the veterans to begin with.</p>
<p>My point is that, when the team is clearly being not just outplayed but out-hustled, that&#8217;s the perfect chance to give the young legs a chance to earn their stripes.</p>
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		<title>By: Bulls open the season with a sweet win over the Spurs &#187; By The Horns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bulls open the season with a sweet win over the Spurs &#187; By The Horns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NL</title>
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		<dc:creator>NL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah,  it&#039;s been two games.  we&#039;re not working with a big sample size here and towards the end of the season i&#039;m confident all the cogs will be turning the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah,  it&#8217;s been two games.  we&#8217;re not working with a big sample size here and towards the end of the season i&#8217;m confident all the cogs will be turning the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatBigGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatBigGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the optimism shown in the past few posts. 

This game can be summed up very simply. The Bulls played very well and the Spurs did not. The Bulls were slept in their own beds and were pumped for their first game while the Spurs were busy flying to Chicago until 2 am. There is no other reason why we lost. 

As far as this Finley starting debate, who would start over him? If he and Bonner start, the bench gets much deeper. If either one of those guys hit shots early, it opens up the lane for RJ, TP, and TD. If they don&#039;t hit or get burned defensively, you go to the deepest bench in the league. 

Also, I don&#039;t understand everyone&#039;s insistence of playing younger guys over the veterans. If they were truly as good as the fans truly think/hope, then they&#039;d be playing. We have the best coaching in the league, don&#039;t you think they know who their best players are? Obviously Hairston and Mahinmi just aren&#039;t getting it done in the eyes of the coaching staff while the Finley/Ratliff/Bogans trio is doing the right things. There is no substitute for veteran savvy and knowledge of the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the optimism shown in the past few posts. </p>
<p>This game can be summed up very simply. The Bulls played very well and the Spurs did not. The Bulls were slept in their own beds and were pumped for their first game while the Spurs were busy flying to Chicago until 2 am. There is no other reason why we lost. </p>
<p>As far as this Finley starting debate, who would start over him? If he and Bonner start, the bench gets much deeper. If either one of those guys hit shots early, it opens up the lane for RJ, TP, and TD. If they don&#8217;t hit or get burned defensively, you go to the deepest bench in the league. </p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t understand everyone&#8217;s insistence of playing younger guys over the veterans. If they were truly as good as the fans truly think/hope, then they&#8217;d be playing. We have the best coaching in the league, don&#8217;t you think they know who their best players are? Obviously Hairston and Mahinmi just aren&#8217;t getting it done in the eyes of the coaching staff while the Finley/Ratliff/Bogans trio is doing the right things. There is no substitute for veteran savvy and knowledge of the system.</p>
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		<title>By: SAJKinBigD</title>
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		<dc:creator>SAJKinBigD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing (for conspiracy theorists): Isn&#039;t it a little odd that the Spurs go TO Chicago for a home/season opener the night after their own, then Boston gets Chicago at home after a day of rest (some might say 2 days given the Bobcats game)?
Hmmmm....
:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing (for conspiracy theorists): Isn&#8217;t it a little odd that the Spurs go TO Chicago for a home/season opener the night after their own, then Boston gets Chicago at home after a day of rest (some might say 2 days given the Bobcats game)?<br />
Hmmmm&#8230;.<br />
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		<title>By: BayAreaSpursFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>BayAreaSpursFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the season is lost according to all the negative post. Yes I was dissapointed with the loss but I do not expect to many of these off nights. I will start to worry when the team plays like this in the middle of the season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the season is lost according to all the negative post. Yes I was dissapointed with the loss but I do not expect to many of these off nights. I will start to worry when the team plays like this in the middle of the season.</p>
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		<title>By: SpurredOn</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpurredOn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with TrueFan. These are the nights, both b2b and/or when shots will just not fall for us, were I&#039;d like to see Pop go with an all defense lineup for long stretches. Hill, Malik, maybe TD and RJ or whatever other group matches best with the opponent. Allow our team speed to bring us back and frustrate the opponent by &quot;boring&quot; the game down.

As Rick said, no worry here. I figured this season would be like Spurs&#039; seasons of yesteryear. Start slow, people worry, Pop complains about defense and toughness, players find their rhythm and Pop discovers the roations he likes. Team then goes on great run so when they&#039;re 39-12 a the All-Star break, some talking head on TV can proclaim &quot;since starting the season a lackadaisical 5-4, San Antonio has gone 34-8!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with TrueFan. These are the nights, both b2b and/or when shots will just not fall for us, were I&#8217;d like to see Pop go with an all defense lineup for long stretches. Hill, Malik, maybe TD and RJ or whatever other group matches best with the opponent. Allow our team speed to bring us back and frustrate the opponent by &#8220;boring&#8221; the game down.</p>
<p>As Rick said, no worry here. I figured this season would be like Spurs&#8217; seasons of yesteryear. Start slow, people worry, Pop complains about defense and toughness, players find their rhythm and Pop discovers the roations he likes. Team then goes on great run so when they&#8217;re 39-12 a the All-Star break, some talking head on TV can proclaim &#8220;since starting the season a lackadaisical 5-4, San Antonio has gone 34-8!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TrueFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrueFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree entirely with SpurredOn&#039;s point about RJ.  He just needs to stop over-thinking and let his role in the offense come to him.  Even with the nice assists he had against NO, there still were a lot of times the past two nights where he over-passed and/or looked tentative on offense.  That will change with time, and he&#039;ll be fine.

I really could not help wondering last night how Malik Hairston could have helped.  By all accounts, he played good defense in summer league and preseason, and has developed a nice shot as well.  He also seems to be a better rebounder than Finley.  And it&#039;s not like he doesn&#039;t know the system.  What&#039;s the point of having him on the roster if he can&#039;t get time in a game like the one last night??  

The Spurs were clearly in a funk last night, but the beauty of their depth should be that on such nights, Pop can put in the hungry young talent.  Instead, we were treated to 28 minutes of Finley while Bogans was active (instead of Hairston) and yet could only contribute a DNP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree entirely with SpurredOn&#8217;s point about RJ.  He just needs to stop over-thinking and let his role in the offense come to him.  Even with the nice assists he had against NO, there still were a lot of times the past two nights where he over-passed and/or looked tentative on offense.  That will change with time, and he&#8217;ll be fine.</p>
<p>I really could not help wondering last night how Malik Hairston could have helped.  By all accounts, he played good defense in summer league and preseason, and has developed a nice shot as well.  He also seems to be a better rebounder than Finley.  And it&#8217;s not like he doesn&#8217;t know the system.  What&#8217;s the point of having him on the roster if he can&#8217;t get time in a game like the one last night??  </p>
<p>The Spurs were clearly in a funk last night, but the beauty of their depth should be that on such nights, Pop can put in the hungry young talent.  Instead, we were treated to 28 minutes of Finley while Bogans was active (instead of Hairston) and yet could only contribute a DNP.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ashford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ashford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d point out that Pop has repeatedly stated that he wanted the older guys to start the season out of shape, getting them more offseason rest time.

A lackluster showing in the early part of the season on the second part of a back-to-back is the exact thing you would expect to have happen.  New guys are still learning the defensive (and offensive) rotations, older guys are a little winded and a little slower rotating over, or getting back to protect the rim.

As guys get more into shape and the new guys get used to the system, expect the team to gradually improve as the games go on.

I&#039;m not worried by any stretch of the imagination.  If the same thing happens in March, I may actually lose some sleep over it, but not now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d point out that Pop has repeatedly stated that he wanted the older guys to start the season out of shape, getting them more offseason rest time.</p>
<p>A lackluster showing in the early part of the season on the second part of a back-to-back is the exact thing you would expect to have happen.  New guys are still learning the defensive (and offensive) rotations, older guys are a little winded and a little slower rotating over, or getting back to protect the rim.</p>
<p>As guys get more into shape and the new guys get used to the system, expect the team to gradually improve as the games go on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not worried by any stretch of the imagination.  If the same thing happens in March, I may actually lose some sleep over it, but not now.</p>
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		<title>By: metroplex</title>
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		<dc:creator>metroplex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anyone else think that we need pj back?i think it would be a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone else think that we need pj back?i think it would be a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: SpurredOn</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpurredOn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;ll see less of Finley when Pop feels the new guys know the system better. When trailing, Pop wants to go with players that he trusts instead of new guys that may make mistakes. That it&#039;s early means Finley&#039;s legs are fresh; if this were March I&#039;d wonder why Pop was going with him for so long.

As for RJ, remember how much Finley struggled when he first game to S.A.? New established star wanting to make a good impression but also wanting to defer to the established teammates. Jefferson will be fine. He needs to get to the point where he&#039;s thinking less while playing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;ll see less of Finley when Pop feels the new guys know the system better. When trailing, Pop wants to go with players that he trusts instead of new guys that may make mistakes. That it&#8217;s early means Finley&#8217;s legs are fresh; if this were March I&#8217;d wonder why Pop was going with him for so long.</p>
<p>As for RJ, remember how much Finley struggled when he first game to S.A.? New established star wanting to make a good impression but also wanting to defer to the established teammates. Jefferson will be fine. He needs to get to the point where he&#8217;s thinking less while playing.</p>
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		<title>By: ChillFAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChillFAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll, so much for &quot;destroying the rest of the league on the way to title number five,&quot; as I&#039;d bragged to anyone who would listen.

I agree that Finley&#039;s minutes should be limited against youthful opponents like Bulls and OKC, but an old team needs to share minutes and luckily, there&#039;s a few more games left to be played.

Unlike Manu, I honestly Finley HAS to start to be most effective.  But I totally agree that Bonner should not start over McDyess.

(sarcastically) I mean it took Popvich like, what, a year to figure out he should play George Hill instead of JV?

Let the Popovich tinkering begin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll, so much for &#8220;destroying the rest of the league on the way to title number five,&#8221; as I&#8217;d bragged to anyone who would listen.</p>
<p>I agree that Finley&#8217;s minutes should be limited against youthful opponents like Bulls and OKC, but an old team needs to share minutes and luckily, there&#8217;s a few more games left to be played.</p>
<p>Unlike Manu, I honestly Finley HAS to start to be most effective.  But I totally agree that Bonner should not start over McDyess.</p>
<p>(sarcastically) I mean it took Popvich like, what, a year to figure out he should play George Hill instead of JV?</p>
<p>Let the Popovich tinkering begin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AP,

You&#039;re absolutely right.  We shouldn&#039;t be taking it so hard.  What bothers me is the strong and long Chicago players who kept getting that offensive rebound.

Cleveland doesn&#039;t have those players (except for maybe Varajau).  Boston doesn&#039;t have those players.  Lakers kind of do (Odom and Bynum) but the team I fear the most is Orlando with Howard.</description>
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<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right.  We shouldn&#8217;t be taking it so hard.  What bothers me is the strong and long Chicago players who kept getting that offensive rebound.</p>
<p>Cleveland doesn&#8217;t have those players (except for maybe Varajau).  Boston doesn&#8217;t have those players.  Lakers kind of do (Odom and Bynum) but the team I fear the most is Orlando with Howard.</p>
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		<title>By: AP</title>
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		<dc:creator>AP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I can&#039;t believe how upset everyone is.  We lost the second game of a back-to-back, so what?  It will happen a few more times, just like it does every season, over and over.  It&#039;s hard to see Spurs fans being so upset at a loss like this in January.  
Considering the learning curve of all our acquisitions, and how amped the Bulls were for their season opener, I think it&#039;s a non-issue. 
It&#039;s just a let-down from opening night euphoria.
The best thing that I take away from it is Duncan&#039;s great night, quieting down all of those &quot;career finish line&quot; comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I can&#8217;t believe how upset everyone is.  We lost the second game of a back-to-back, so what?  It will happen a few more times, just like it does every season, over and over.  It&#8217;s hard to see Spurs fans being so upset at a loss like this in January.<br />
Considering the learning curve of all our acquisitions, and how amped the Bulls were for their season opener, I think it&#8217;s a non-issue.<br />
It&#8217;s just a let-down from opening night euphoria.<br />
The best thing that I take away from it is Duncan&#8217;s great night, quieting down all of those &#8220;career finish line&#8221; comments.</p>
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		<title>By: agutierrez</title>
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		<dc:creator>agutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep reading that Pop&#039;s goal for this year is to get the Spurs back into the top two or three in key defensive categories. Yet, he starts the game with two of our biggest defensive liabilities, Fin and Bonner. Granted this is only the second game, but this looks exactly like last year ... Fin and Bonner have a hot shooting night once every 5 or 6 games and we think they&#039;ve found it. Also, Pop never seemed to find a way to get Kurt Thomas involved in the offense and from what I&#039;ve seen so far, the same is happening with McDyess and RJ. Finally, if tonight&#039;s game is any indication, we&#039;re going to play hell against teams with several bigs (like the Lakers). Yet, we&#039;re giving up on Mahinmi. The bigs that we can put on the floor cannot compete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep reading that Pop&#8217;s goal for this year is to get the Spurs back into the top two or three in key defensive categories. Yet, he starts the game with two of our biggest defensive liabilities, Fin and Bonner. Granted this is only the second game, but this looks exactly like last year &#8230; Fin and Bonner have a hot shooting night once every 5 or 6 games and we think they&#8217;ve found it. Also, Pop never seemed to find a way to get Kurt Thomas involved in the offense and from what I&#8217;ve seen so far, the same is happening with McDyess and RJ. Finally, if tonight&#8217;s game is any indication, we&#8217;re going to play hell against teams with several bigs (like the Lakers). Yet, we&#8217;re giving up on Mahinmi. The bigs that we can put on the floor cannot compete.</p>
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