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	<title>Comments on: Dallas Mavericks 83, San Antonio Spurs 92: the Early Edition</title>
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		<title>By: Ruffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me it was all about Bogans and Dice in the starting lineup - they completely changed the complexion of our defence.

Bogans has been a successful swing defender for some years, particularly in Orlando, and it looks like we finally have a guy to successfully hassle Dirk (and other mobile forwards like Odom and West) in Antonio.  

Also, I can&#039;t wait to see what can develop between Tim and Dice as their defensive chemistry grows.  Anyone who remembers Dice and the Wallaces in 2005 knows what an excellent defender he can be in a strong system next to a trusty big man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me it was all about Bogans and Dice in the starting lineup &#8211; they completely changed the complexion of our defence.</p>
<p>Bogans has been a successful swing defender for some years, particularly in Orlando, and it looks like we finally have a guy to successfully hassle Dirk (and other mobile forwards like Odom and West) in Antonio.  </p>
<p>Also, I can&#8217;t wait to see what can develop between Tim and Dice as their defensive chemistry grows.  Anyone who remembers Dice and the Wallaces in 2005 knows what an excellent defender he can be in a strong system next to a trusty big man.</p>
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		<title>By: The NBA is giving me a headache.</title>
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		<dc:creator>The NBA is giving me a headache.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Antonio just beat up Dallas while playing without Duncan and Parker. Well then. I don’t even have anything to add. That’s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still better to have Manu off the bench so that you can always have one of the big 4 in the game. 

Parker and Duncan will tend to dominate the ball, and will provide opportunities for 3 point shots. 

RJ provides that guy who can slash and shoot, but can also get to the line. 

To get the best out of all the talent, you want to stagger it slightly so you don&#039;t have huge drop offs when the second unit is in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still better to have Manu off the bench so that you can always have one of the big 4 in the game. </p>
<p>Parker and Duncan will tend to dominate the ball, and will provide opportunities for 3 point shots. </p>
<p>RJ provides that guy who can slash and shoot, but can also get to the line. </p>
<p>To get the best out of all the talent, you want to stagger it slightly so you don&#8217;t have huge drop offs when the second unit is in.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more point -

I think sometimes Pop and we the fans overthink our line-ups like there&#039;s some kind of magic elixir out there of player combos. 

I can&#039;t see what&#039;s wrong with playing our strongest guys together, make other teams adjust to our line-ups, and substitute accordingly to match-up issues that unfold.

I know it&#039;s still early so experimenting is better now than later. It will be great when the rotations are set and we can see what we&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more point -</p>
<p>I think sometimes Pop and we the fans overthink our line-ups like there&#8217;s some kind of magic elixir out there of player combos. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see what&#8217;s wrong with playing our strongest guys together, make other teams adjust to our line-ups, and substitute accordingly to match-up issues that unfold.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s still early so experimenting is better now than later. It will be great when the rotations are set and we can see what we&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree with the &quot;RJ coming off the bench&quot; crowd.

Call me old fashioned, but I like it when our 5 best players start and finish the game.

The lone exception is Manu, but even then, the only reason he came off the bench in the past was because our bench was so weak. Not the case anymore.


5 best players

C - Duncan
PF - McDyess
SF - Jefferson
SG - Ginobili
PG - Parker

Bench - Hill, Blair, Bogans, Mason, Bonner, Finley, Ratliff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with the &#8220;RJ coming off the bench&#8221; crowd.</p>
<p>Call me old fashioned, but I like it when our 5 best players start and finish the game.</p>
<p>The lone exception is Manu, but even then, the only reason he came off the bench in the past was because our bench was so weak. Not the case anymore.</p>
<p>5 best players</p>
<p>C &#8211; Duncan<br />
PF &#8211; McDyess<br />
SF &#8211; Jefferson<br />
SG &#8211; Ginobili<br />
PG &#8211; Parker</p>
<p>Bench &#8211; Hill, Blair, Bogans, Mason, Bonner, Finley, Ratliff</p>
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		<title>By: duaneofly</title>
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		<dc:creator>duaneofly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets not forget it takes a special type of player to be not just starter quality, but all star or super star quality and be willing to come off the bench.  Manu is one such player, and Jason Terry seems to be another.  Allen Iverson is obviously not one such player.
Who knows how RJ would react to being brought off the bench.  Also, who would start in his place?  Finley?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets not forget it takes a special type of player to be not just starter quality, but all star or super star quality and be willing to come off the bench.  Manu is one such player, and Jason Terry seems to be another.  Allen Iverson is obviously not one such player.<br />
Who knows how RJ would react to being brought off the bench.  Also, who would start in his place?  Finley?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as starting Jefferson on the bench, I don&#039;t know if I would agree with that. I can&#039;t argue with the chemistry of the guys we have been putting out there so far. 

The new guys haven&#039;t had time to jell with the starts yet, especially since Parker and Duncan sitting out, but the offense has looked the most fluid it has all season in our last two games...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as starting Jefferson on the bench, I don&#8217;t know if I would agree with that. I can&#8217;t argue with the chemistry of the guys we have been putting out there so far. </p>
<p>The new guys haven&#8217;t had time to jell with the starts yet, especially since Parker and Duncan sitting out, but the offense has looked the most fluid it has all season in our last two games&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ivander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t think the Spurs would beat the Mavs without TD and TP. 
I was so impressed by how Dirk was just shut down, even if he had 29 points, he shot 9/27, which is just terrible. I think if other guys had taken some of his missed shots instead, maybe it would have been a closer game.

Defense looked quite sharp yesterday. The Mavs&#039; field goal percentages were horrid.
I also was very impressed by RJ, he knows he had to step up now that Duncan and Parker are out, and he did! 
Seems like Manu has f0und his touch from downtown again...the whole team actucally; first time in franchise history that the Spurs have back-to-back games with 14  3&#039;s made!
And yesterday highest points scored under Pop ever, all that sounds pretty good to me...but they have to play defense like last night, every game. After all, that&#039;s the true Spurs&#039; way...with, on top, a dunk from RJ every now and then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t think the Spurs would beat the Mavs without TD and TP.<br />
I was so impressed by how Dirk was just shut down, even if he had 29 points, he shot 9/27, which is just terrible. I think if other guys had taken some of his missed shots instead, maybe it would have been a closer game.</p>
<p>Defense looked quite sharp yesterday. The Mavs&#8217; field goal percentages were horrid.<br />
I also was very impressed by RJ, he knows he had to step up now that Duncan and Parker are out, and he did!<br />
Seems like Manu has f0und his touch from downtown again&#8230;the whole team actucally; first time in franchise history that the Spurs have back-to-back games with 14  3&#8217;s made!<br />
And yesterday highest points scored under Pop ever, all that sounds pretty good to me&#8230;but they have to play defense like last night, every game. After all, that&#8217;s the true Spurs&#8217; way&#8230;with, on top, a dunk from RJ every now and then.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Blanchard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Blanchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not feeling RJ coming off the bench. We do need some athleticism in our starting lineup because we have it, AND energy (two different things) coming in spades off the bench (Manu, George and Blair). Plus, it would be nice if Parker had someone, ANYONE, to join him in producing Spurs fast break points. 

Speaking of which, it seems at least once or twice a game Hill is just outright ripping his opponents dribble and creating a turnover. We might not ever suffocate opposing teams as we once did--we simply don&#039;t have the length of a boston in our frontline anymore--but I would argue we can make up for it by some trapping and creating  turnovers. 

We can create some more Jefferson touches by featuring him at the end of the first or third quarters, when Parker leaves for some rest and before Manu takes over. Good problem to have, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not feeling RJ coming off the bench. We do need some athleticism in our starting lineup because we have it, AND energy (two different things) coming in spades off the bench (Manu, George and Blair). Plus, it would be nice if Parker had someone, ANYONE, to join him in producing Spurs fast break points. </p>
<p>Speaking of which, it seems at least once or twice a game Hill is just outright ripping his opponents dribble and creating a turnover. We might not ever suffocate opposing teams as we once did&#8211;we simply don&#8217;t have the length of a boston in our frontline anymore&#8211;but I would argue we can make up for it by some trapping and creating  turnovers. </p>
<p>We can create some more Jefferson touches by featuring him at the end of the first or third quarters, when Parker leaves for some rest and before Manu takes over. Good problem to have, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RJ off the bench? There needs to be a balance of slashers in both the starting lineup and secondary lineup. Otherwise the bench will just be coming in sooner to help keep the pace. 

If everyone were healthy, it might look like: 

Duncan/McDyess/RJ/Bogans/Parker

RJ can spot up, but also can scare teams by diving to the basket. Bogans doesn&#039;t have that ability. You also want to make it so it is difficult for defenses to cheat on Duncan or Parker (pack the lane). 

It&#039;s good to have Manu and RJ on slightly different schedules because it means you have a slasher in at all times who can also pass pretty well. With Manu, you already have Hill (who gets better by the day).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RJ off the bench? There needs to be a balance of slashers in both the starting lineup and secondary lineup. Otherwise the bench will just be coming in sooner to help keep the pace. </p>
<p>If everyone were healthy, it might look like: </p>
<p>Duncan/McDyess/RJ/Bogans/Parker</p>
<p>RJ can spot up, but also can scare teams by diving to the basket. Bogans doesn&#8217;t have that ability. You also want to make it so it is difficult for defenses to cheat on Duncan or Parker (pack the lane). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to have Manu and RJ on slightly different schedules because it means you have a slasher in at all times who can also pass pretty well. With Manu, you already have Hill (who gets better by the day).</p>
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		<title>By: StreetBalla</title>
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		<dc:creator>StreetBalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking for Blair&#039;s block on dirk and I found this link on ESPN Spurs message boards (thanks ironman2886). It is at the 4:25 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMPBooQ1vXg&amp;feature=player_embedded</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking for Blair&#8217;s block on dirk and I found this link on ESPN Spurs message boards (thanks ironman2886). It is at the 4:25 mark.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMPBooQ1vXg&amp;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMPBooQ1vXg&amp;feature=player_embedded</a></p>
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		<title>By: rj</title>
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		<dc:creator>rj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zack,

i like you idea of rj coming off the bench. parker, duncan, and bonner will provide some offensive punch with our 1st unit. a second unit that would include ginobili and jefferson sounds extremely dangerous. its all about spreading out the offense throughout the game. of course, manu, tim, tony, rj, and possibly dice will finish the game.

i , and i think most, stick by the idea we need another shot blocker. either give theo some more minutes or pull mahinmi up.

great win last night. couldn&#039;t be more proud of the intensity. win or lose, gotta love those spurs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zack,</p>
<p>i like you idea of rj coming off the bench. parker, duncan, and bonner will provide some offensive punch with our 1st unit. a second unit that would include ginobili and jefferson sounds extremely dangerous. its all about spreading out the offense throughout the game. of course, manu, tim, tony, rj, and possibly dice will finish the game.</p>
<p>i , and i think most, stick by the idea we need another shot blocker. either give theo some more minutes or pull mahinmi up.</p>
<p>great win last night. couldn&#8217;t be more proud of the intensity. win or lose, gotta love those spurs</p>
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		<title>By: zack</title>
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		<dc:creator>zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jesse 
well said, i mean you described my feelings exactly and im sure most spurs fans. i find myself standing up most of the game too. George got DEFENSE in his bones, im not saying i dont love parker because hes one of the best pg&#039;s in the league right now and almost feel like he&#039;s a family member lol, but wow i love george hill&#039;s defense!!! i mean parker scores, but he also lets pg&#039;s score all the time, the thing that worried me the most was parkers comments about leaving when tim leaves, im just gald we have a great back up pg.

 I too have noticed that RJ is alot more aggresive since tim and tony are gone, do you think this might change his role as a starter? sounds silly but if you had him as your #1 option off the bench he would be extremely effective!! I am worried about gasol and bynum but w/those kind of injuries, it sure keeps you from playing your best for a while. and if its as light as they said it was he wouldnt be out until xmas i think its pretty bad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jesse<br />
well said, i mean you described my feelings exactly and im sure most spurs fans. i find myself standing up most of the game too. George got DEFENSE in his bones, im not saying i dont love parker because hes one of the best pg&#8217;s in the league right now and almost feel like he&#8217;s a family member lol, but wow i love george hill&#8217;s defense!!! i mean parker scores, but he also lets pg&#8217;s score all the time, the thing that worried me the most was parkers comments about leaving when tim leaves, im just gald we have a great back up pg.</p>
<p> I too have noticed that RJ is alot more aggresive since tim and tony are gone, do you think this might change his role as a starter? sounds silly but if you had him as your #1 option off the bench he would be extremely effective!! I am worried about gasol and bynum but w/those kind of injuries, it sure keeps you from playing your best for a while. and if its as light as they said it was he wouldnt be out until xmas i think its pretty bad</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great game last night.

Heart, intensity, active hands.. everything you want from your team.


I would love to see everyone continue to play this hard once Tim and Tony come back instead of becoming passive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great game last night.</p>
<p>Heart, intensity, active hands.. everything you want from your team.</p>
<p>I would love to see everyone continue to play this hard once Tim and Tony come back instead of becoming passive.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Whit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Whit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night&#039;s game was a good one with many positives for the Spurs.  I believe it was a second in back to back for the Mavricks, both on the road, which gave them some disadvantage, but of course, the Spurs were without Timmy and Tony.  We meet again on the 18th in Dallas and that will be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night&#8217;s game was a good one with many positives for the Spurs.  I believe it was a second in back to back for the Mavricks, both on the road, which gave them some disadvantage, but of course, the Spurs were without Timmy and Tony.  We meet again on the 18th in Dallas and that will be interesting.</p>
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