Advanced Scouting: Charlotte Bobcats at San Antonio Spurs

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Charlotte Bobcats at San Antonio Spurs 7:30 CST March 19, 2011

SRS ranks:

Charlotte: -3.62 (23rd)
San Antonio: 6.15 (4th)

All statistics are prior to last night’s game.

Player summary statistics from basketball-reference.com and basketballvalue.com:

Charlotte Bobcats Player Ratings 3-17

PlayerGMPGUSG%OrtgDRtgWS/482 Yr APM
D.J. Augustin6733.420.91141110.122-3.78
Gerald Wallace483920.11051050.0995.25
Boris Diaw6733.616.51051080.0781.06
Kwame Brown5223.3151091070.1-7.3
Stephen Jackson6236.527.3991080.05-1.49
Tyrus Thomas3721.5251011010.106-1.09
Shaun Livingston6717.319.61021070.0681.71
Nazr Mohammed5116.722.21021040.086-3.24
Gerald Henderson5321.819.21021080.0620.68
D.J. White920.717.61231050.179N/A
Dominic McGuire3914.214921050.034N/A
Matt Carroll399.319.2981080.043N/A
Eduardo Najera2812.511.6961080.036-3.32

The Bobcats are not the same defensive team without Gerald Wallace.

San Antonio Spurs Player Ratings 3-17

PlayerGMPGUSG%OrtgDRtgWS/482 Yr APM
Tony Parker6532.225.21141070.165-0.86
Manu Ginobili6730.926.31161040.1995.28
Richard Jefferson6630.815.51151080.117-0.82
Tim Duncan6728.722.91091000.1656.47
George Hill6128.217.71151070.136-1.74
DeJuan Blair6721.920.3106990.14-0.45
Matt Bonner5121.512.81311070.1623.62
Gary Neal6520.520.51091080.1-1.22
Antonio McDyess6118.1151051030.1062.18
James Anderson1812.415.11101090.084N/A
Tiago Splitter471117.51111030.139N/A
Steve Novak136.714.61391090.189N/A
Chris Quinn396.616.3961090.027N/A

Player trends, based on Efficiency per 48 minutes:

Charlott Bobcats Player Trends 3-17

PlayerSeasonLast 10Increase
Eduardo Najera12.2163.8
Matt Carroll15.417.21.8
Shaun Livingston19.921.11.2
Gerald Henderson17.417-0.4
Stephen Jackson20.218.5-1.7
D.J. Augustin21.519.3-2.2
Boris Diaw19.917.4-2.5
Kwame Brown20.716.8-3.9
Dominic McGuire18.513.9-4.6
Tyrus Thomas28.114.6-13.5

San Antonio Spurs Player Trends 3-17

PlayerSeasonLast 10Increase
DeJuan Blair28.332.23.9
Matt Bonner20.323.33
Tiago Splitter22.225.12.9
Manu Ginobili28.3312.7
Gary Neal18.720.21.5
Steve Novak19.819.5-0.3
Antonio McDyess23.322.7-0.6
Tony Parker27.125.1-2
Tim Duncan32.430.4-2
James Anderson13.69.9-3.7
George Hill22.218.1-4.1
Richard Jefferson17.811.8-6
Chris Quinn12.33.3-9

Lineup data

Most valuable/utilized lineups:

Bobcats:
Augustin, Jackson, Wallace, Diaw, Brown -59 in 364 minutes (-9.3 per 100 possessions)
Augustin, Jackson, Wallace, Diaw, Mohammed -12 in 363 minutes (-1.4 per 100)
Augustin, Henderson, Jackson, Diaw, Brown -41 in 157 minutes (-12.8 per 100)
Augustin, Henderson, Jackson, Wallace, Diaw +27 in 57 minutes (+23.6 per 100)

Diaw at Center: +4.1 per 100 in 672 MP
Diaw at PF: -7.3 per 100 in 1,577 MP

Spurs:
Parker, Ginobili, Jefferson, Blair, Duncan +147 in 669 minutes (+10.4 per 100)
Parker, Ginobili, Jefferson, McDyess, Duncan +29 in 147 minutes (+10.2 per 100)
Hill, Neal, Ginobili, Bonner, McDyess +65 in 101 minutes (+35.3 per 100)

Preferred method to create shots: Stephen Jackson on isolations and post-ups

Depending on whom you talk to Stephen Jackson is either among the most overrated or under appreciated players in the game. Many observers like his versatility, production and ability to create. Other, including many statheads, believes he is a model for inefficient scorers whose perceived value is derived from jacking up a ton of shots, despite all of the missed shots and turnovers that hurt his team along the way.

Ben Gordon has a career Offensive Rating of 106. Carmelo Anthony checked in at 107. Even Allen Iverson had a rating of 105. Stephen Jackson’s Offensive Rating of 101 pales in comparison even to these noted inefficient “ballhogs”. Despite this dismal efficiency, Jackson actually appears to have more offensive value than you would expect. Now, I’m not suggesting he would that a good offensive team like the Spurs should target him (although he did tag along for the title run in 2003), but the Bobcats’ enemic offense would likely be even worse without him.

Stephen Jackson’s 5 year adjusted plus minus (which is much more reliable than 1 and 2 year figures) estimates him as a player of average to above average offensive value (and average defensive value). More interesting, however, is the fact that the Bobcats have scored more than 4 points more per 100 possessions when Jackson is on the floor for both 2009/10 and this season (his defensive on court/off court figures are not as favorable).

There are several reasons that Jackson has more offensive value than his box score statistics would suggest. Much is made about the value of shot creation and Jackson clearly has that ability. Jackson typically takes close to 20% of his shots near the end of the shot clock, which definitely helps take the sting out of his low shooting percentage. Amazingly, this season Jackson’s effective FG% is higher at the end of the shot clock. In 5 isolation plays per game, Jackson averages 0.86 points per possession (PPP). He also averages 0.92 PPP in about 2 post ups per game. Both rates are very respectable.

Additionally, although Jackson commits a lot of passing turnovers, his assists are arguably among the most valuable in the NBA. Approximately 1/3rd of the NBA’s assists lead to layups or dunks. Jackson’s assists lead to close shots an impressive 56% of the time. Last year, it was 68%. In the past, I have estimated that a close assist indicates as much as 5 times more value than assists on jump shots. (This is primarily because an assist on a jump shot will typically come with many untracked passes leading to missed shots). This season, Jackson even average more close assists than Lebron James.

DJ Augustin is probably the only other Bobcats player who is a better offensive player than their owner. (I’m mostly joking about that.) Augustin is not the most productive point guard and might not create as many easy scores as Jackson, but he is very efficient and probably the Bobcats’ best three point option.

Spurs defensive strategy: Defend Jackson with Hill and entice him to take jumpers on isolations

I realize that the Spurs may be more interested in getting their roster playoff ready; but I’ve done reports for every other team, so I think I’ll just pretend they are intend to make adjustments to improve their chances against the Bobcats, if needed.

Stephen Jackson likes to pass out of the post more often than he passes out of isolations. However, Jackson’s passes out of the post tend to be kickouts and less deadly than his passes on isolation plays. Additionally, his passes to cuts from the post are when many of his turnovers occur. When Jackson tries to finish from the blocks himself, he likes to either take a jumper or drive to the hoop. He usually drives left, but he can also be effective going right on the baseline.

George Hill seems to continually improve defensively. He is a tough defender in the post, but his size could entice Jackson to test Hill’s defensively on the blocks. With Jackson posting up, his passing value should be diminished. (However, opponents have experiences success attempting to score on Hill in the post.)

Hill has also become a very good defender on isolations. Once again, the size difference could entice Jackson into a less effective option, the jump shot. Jackson isn’t a terrible jump shooter, but he is nothing special from three point range and becomes a very dangerous passer when driving to the basket.

If the Spurs need to set up their defensive rotations to leave any Bobcats player, Kwame Brown would be the least punishing option. Although most of Brown’s scores come from easy assisted layups or dunks, he somehow manages to keep his shooting percentage below 50%.

Spurs offensive game plan: Attack Augustin and Kwame Brown on pick and rolls

Although the Bobcats rank in the top half defensively, the trade of Gerald Wallace to the Trail Blazers should have a significant negative impact on their defensive performance (especially with Przybilla out indefinitely). After winning 17 of their first 30 games after Paul Silas took the coaching reigns from Larry Brown, Charlotte has lost 8 of their last 10 coinciding with Wallace’s trade.

DJ Augustin and Kwame Brown are two defensive liabilities for the Bobcats. Both players struggle defending the pick and roll. Augustin has allowed 0.91 PPP when defending the pick and roll ball man over the last two seasons. Kwame has historically struggled defending the ballhandler more than the roll man, so George Hill and Tony Parker will be better good options to run the pick and roll since they prefer to finish the play themselves.

Augustin also struggles defending isolations. His opponents scored an average of 0.98 PPP when isolated against him over the past 2 seasons. Both Hill and Parker should look to take advantage of this weakness.

The Pick

Spurs

At the moment, the Spurs might be slightly less than 100% as they look ahead towards the playoffs, but the Bobcats are looking forward to next season(s). A back-to-back might be a good opportunity to rest the vets, but the Spurs would even have a good shot without their best lineup.

  • rob

    If one could call it as Dallas out of the way, an impressive win on the road against a playoff bound team…the Spurs just may now try to utelize some end of bench players to help get them “ready” for playoff action just in case one may be needed in an emergency.

    If playoff rotational patterns take form of 9 deep that would mean Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Jefferson, McDyess, Hill, Neal, Blair and Bonner as the team’s key players during the playoffs.

    Assuming there is no physical limitations to them playing….Splitter, Anderson and Green just might see more action in these next 10 games than they’ve seen all year.

  • DorieStreet

    @ [the author]

    You and Stephen on bad terms? It seems like a long time ago… but I recall his contributions back in 2002-03 would elicit a better comment than “…(although he did tag along for the title run in 2003), …”

    A, B, C - Atlanta, Boston, Charlotte: the only eastern conference opponents remaining on the schedule. The Spurs are 21-6, with victories vs. 14 of the 15 teams (the Celtics are the lone exception) & season sweeps against 7 of the foes on the other side of the league. The Bobcats are coming in after a loss to OKC last night; I still think a victory is in hand-even if some of the seldom-used reserves log some minutes on the floor.

  • Titletown99030507d

    @rob,

    “Assuming there is no physical limitations to them playing….Splitter, Anderson and Green just might see more action in these next 10 games than they’ve seen all year.”

    Yeah now that is a luxury something we haven’t had in a long while. Nice adjustment on the Bonner/Blair combo last night. Like the way for most of the game they each either played with Timmy or Dyess. That was way more effective. Bonner still needs to get out his funk but then again he’s probably going to play a lot more now that we have the luxury to do so. His gun will be reloaded with real bullets come playoffs I can sense it. If this continues with the core3 and the shooters are on again like earlier in the season I like our chances. One last note, I still see where our guys can at any point of the game just tear it wide open but tend to relax. “Put the Lion choke on the next opponent guys.” I know the playoffs haven’t started but if you guys play like this we’ll be right there watching the 5th trophy floating down the river. Good job Spurs! GSG!

  • DorieStreet

    P.S. Still keeping that 2-game losing streak ‘in a closet’ all by lonesome self.

  • Scott Sereday

    @DorieStreet

    You’re probably right that my comment on Jackson in 2003 was unfair.

    I was only trying to relate that he wasn’t the integral part of that offense he is with the Bobcats now and TD was a beast at that point in his legendary career.

  • Greyberger

    S Jax is like Hedo Turkoglu to me, some good memories but I don’t pretend they were essential parts of the teams. More like journeymen who turned a short time on the Spurs into lucrative deals elsewhere.

    Jackson could defend a lot of positions pretty well, and he always had the nerves you need to take big shots. He wasn’t very efficient but I remember a lot of clutch threes all the same.

    I think it’s fair to call him overrated - Basketball reference’s ELO player rater has him at the 68th best career among active players, between Kurt Thomas and Corey Maggette. I’d take Thomas or Maggette’s career in a heartbeat.

  • badger

    I am ashamed to admit that I was only slightly optimistic that the Spurs had made the right call when they signed and gave the $ to the Argentine Assassin over Stephen Jackson. When I saw the video clips of Jackson up in the stands in Detroit with his buddy Ron Artest, I knew that the Spurs FO knows a he’ll of a lot more than I do about building a championship team.

    Speaking of Manu…

    Ginobili was total clutch against Dallas last night. I can’t wait to see if he’s got enough left in his tank to remind us why we kept him and let Jack go looking for the big

  • DorieStreet

    @ Greyberger

    Hedo nutted up on the team especially during the playoffs in 03-04. But Jackson started in 58 of 80 games in the title year, was the 3rd leading scorer, led the team is steals, avg 28 min/game. We don’t win in 02-03 without him. His 1st year with SA - 01-02 -he missed most of it because of injury.

    @ Badger

    And as Greyberger noted-Jackson left for the bigger money in Atlanta-the Spurs wanted to keep him. Same with Devin Brown, Speedy Claxton, Steve Kerr (left for POR after 3 years as a Spur, but he came back). It’s the nature of the business.
    All 4 of those guys deserved and got a ring the year the championship(s) was/were won. They contributed to the cause.

    Lot of revisionist history going on here.

  • DorieStreet

    P.S. -And didn’t a certain guy from the V.I. allowed himself to be wooed by a former all-star (who’s been in the news lately) to join him in Disneyworld-just after he was Finals MVP? He had the Silver & Black fans wringing their hands a bit before deciding to stay.

  • betsyduncan

    From riding the pine to hitting the hardwood: good game(s), Tiago and Steve! Nice.

  • Nima K.

    Novak 19 pts? Splitter 22 minutes?

    Which side of the horizon did the sun rise from this morning?

    :-)

  • Hobson13

    I knew Pop was an evil genius, but who knew we already had a new set of Twin Towers….Matt Bonner and his younger brother Steve Novak?

  • DorieStreet

    Couldn’t see the game-honest assessments-how did the “new uniforms” look? With 13 games (hey- 56 wins, 13 losses!!!) left to get in the flow-can Splitter & Novak get up to speed?

    And-is Bonner rushing shots, or are defenders in his face?

  • Ian

    @DorieStreet
    Bonner was actually hesitating a bit before shooting 3s. He’s had good looks - the shots just weren’t going in. I think it was something like 0-4 from the arc before Bonner started knocking down some 3s.

  • Bruno

    Good to see Splitter/Macdyess together with Solid D, but Splitter had foul troubles…Hope Pop give minutes to Splitter, Novak, JA and rest the starters more times

  • betsyduncan

    Bonner had three makable shots that clanged. He kept shooting, which he needs to do. But I AM heartened by his defensive progress.
    Put simply, Mat spreads the floor for us and he deserves his spot in the rotation. He’ll get hot again. No worries.
    I agree with Tim “Game Over” Duncan, no matter what anyone else says. Mat is tres valuable for/in our drive for five.

  • rob

    NICE!!!

    The team plays it’s starters limited minutes. Many end of bench players get usefull time on the court. And the Spurs win at home in the second game of a b2b.

  • DorieStreet

    How fitting this again has happened on the night of the “Super New Moon” -the Spurs have played yet another NBA squad missing a starter. I know someone out there is keeping up with this wierd ‘statistic’—it’s over a dozen games, but is it closer to 20?

  • rob

    @DorieStreet

    “And as Greyberger noted–Jackson left for the bigger money in Atlanta-the Spurs wanted to keep him.”

    If I remember correctly…Jackson sign for less money than what the Spurs were offering him when he signed with Atlanta.

  • DorieStreet

    @ rob

    +10 for follow up. I know we all can’t recall certain times and situations correctly or exactly (unless they involve your life or family). But there’s no need for fans to do a ‘180’ on a player’s time with their team for “whatever reason.”
    Yes, Stephen Jackson was a “hothead” as a Spur -as he was/is every stop in his NBA career. (He had issues in his youth, I recall reading, hearing, and seeing on TV). Did he get yanked by Pop a few times for his surly demeanor? Yes. Did he get pulled off court for jacking up shots & deviating from the offense, too? Yes-and so did Tony & Manu-driving into the lane aimlessly and making bad passes, etc.
    All I’m saying is-remember the good as well as the bad -correctly-with all the players who wore the Silver & Black.

  • ITGuy

    Go Spurs Go!!

  • rob

    @DorieStreet

    “But there’s no need for fans to do a ’180′ on a player’s time with their team”

    I can agree with that. I for one would have liked to to have gotten Jackson back in a Spur uniform. For the comparable money..I think Jackson is a more talented player than Jefferson.

    But after all the said and done…I think for team chemistry and success…its probably best things happened the way they did. Giving Jackson (at the time the money “he” wanted) probably would have meant the Spurs wouldn’t have been able to keep Manu.

    In that regard…I prefer Manu over Jackson.

  • rob

    @DorieStreet

    P.S.

    Jackson does deserve credit for his time with the Spurs. He was the 3rd leading scorer during the playoffs for that championship.

  • DorieStreet

    @ rob - March 19th, 2011 at 9:10pm

    “Giving Jackson (at the time the money “he” wanted) probably would have meant the Spurs wouldn’t have been abel to keep Manu.”

    A little bit more of revisionist history-02-03 was Manu’s rookie year; he wasn’t going anywhere, no matter what the situation was with Jackson.

    My point had nothing to do with how the FO decided to let Jackson walk because they thought Manu could step up and assume the role (he started for 38 games the following year); it was about how everyone viewed the 02-03 season that Jackson put in for the Spurs. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • hassan

    It’s sad that Corey Brewer chose to go to the MAVS over the SPURS as he could have made a big difference defensively and improved his shooting with our coaching staff and the offer was not very different financially but 1 more year I guess (7.5 mil for 3 years vs 3.5 mil for 2 yrs in the Spurs case).. anyway good luck with that… we now have to focus on JA and Danny Green getting better defensively….

    Good win for the Spurs today… Splitter finally played lots of mins but he just seems a little dicomfabulated and falls a lot but I guess he has
    to play to get better..hope he gets time to play more….

    Steve Novak maybe the best shooter ever as his stroke is just sweet…for short stints in a game he can get you a 3 for sure even like what Steve Kerr did for us before…. Hope he gets his ring this year…

    Upcoming schedule has 3 tough road games that I would like the team to win more about the playoffs than the record or seeding just to send them a message as they are all posibilities for 1st or 2nd round matchup…

  • DorieStreet

    @ rob

    We’re lobbying posts like motor shells in Libya.
    I had mentioned that stat about Jackson earlier in the day.

    On to next week-Tim & Dice get real low minutes vs. the Warriors so they will be super-fresh on this 3-game roadie vs 3 playoff teams-and man-we play the Blazers twice in 4 days; given the defeat they gave the Spurs on the first stop of the RRT-the team has to win one of those games.

  • rob

    @DorieStreet

    “it was about how everyone viewed the 02-03 season that Jackson put in for the Spurs.”

    I don’t know about the “everyone” quote. I for one really appreciated Jackson’s contributions and understand and agree with your p.o.v.

    “My point had nothing to do with how the FO decided to let Jackson walk…”

    Oh I know. I followed on that because this is the most misunderstood statement that I even thought at one point. The FO did not decide to “let” Jackson walk. They made him a very decent offer (he refused) but did not offer more to make sure they could (in the near future) pay Manu, Parker, Duncan.

    But to your point…Jackson definately deserves praise when he played for the Spurs. I’ll always be a fan and appreciative of “Cap’n Jack”.

  • Rafael

    Splitter played pretty good the first 6 minutes, playing with starters, after that he got 3 quick fouls and go to the bench, when he back to the game played with garbage team….

  • DorieStreet

    @rob

    Well said, well said. This all started earlier today when Scott Sereday posted the preview on Saturday night’s game. I sent a response; others put forth their opinions….

    I forgot that nickname of his - “Cap’n Jack”; I have a little bit of memorabilia from that season-I may start searching for a little more.

  • rob

    Yeah. That stretch of road games will be tough. But as DorieStreet pointed out…and as I mentioned in my first post as well… a good time to give playing time to the bench and rest the starters.

    Perhaps Tiago can get some sort of corporate knowledge and needed experience to help him play more effectively/less cumbersome.

    Anderson looks ready to play spot minutes but needs more time in game situations.

    Novak is going to be a question mark. His shooting touch is no doubt a great asset. Him playing the 4 against others 20, 30, 40 lbs. heavier will be a tough match for him and not so beneficial for the Spurs against teams with heavy fronts. He did have a nice block in this game and showed some mobility.

    I for one like Danny Green. Even if his time is limited on the court this year…I think his skill sets are that much like Bowen when Bowen first entered the league. Natural skills at defense and a decent catch and shoot. In college he was a decent assist guy as well showing he has good court awareness. With the Spurs he just may blossom.

    Building these players confidence, skills and ability may help the Spurs in some fasion come playoffs.

  • grego

    Spurs undefeated when Parker has 7 or more assists.

  • grego

    Spurs didn’t really want Jackson. That’s why they offered him a decent offer that was fairly small. The guys who managed SJax were Coach Mike Brown and Steve Smith. Both were leaving so there was no good incentive to keep Jackson unless he came at a low price.

  • spursgermany

    @Hobson13

    EVIL GENIUS is not a too good word ,what about
    GOOD GENIUS!!!!