An Ode to Othyus, Jeffers tabbed as the latest 10-day contract

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Throughout the season, as the San Antonio Spurs have shuffled from one 10-day contract player to the next. Head Coach Gregg Popovich continues to feign ignorance on the hopefuls his team is trying out.

Popovich often jokes in the pregame media sessions, upon the debut of each 13th man to walk through the halls of the AT&T Center, that he barely has time to learn each player’s name, let alone what they might bring to the team in the short time they are here. There probably is a lot of truth in that.

And yet, here comes Othyus Jeffers.

All indications are the Spurs will sign the 6’5″ converted wing to a 10-day contract following the departure of Steve Novak (ending the wondrous possibility—for now—that was a Bonner-Novak frontcourt). In all likelihood, Popovich actually probably knows little and will learn little about Jeffers over the course of this contract, but that Jeffers took an unusual path to the NBA means he probably already fits right in.

You see, while there are far too many hard-luck-overcoming-adversity stories around the NBA for the Spurs to monopolize the market, they have a pretty significant share of those that come through early setbacks with newfound maturity and poise. Pop likes to refer to them as players that have gotten over themselves, and it is one of the things that define this Spurs culture.

By all accounts, and we will delve into these in a bit, Jeffers is merely one of many physically gifted, but basketball-deficient, wings scattered across the NBA Developmental League. But of all the arenas, in all the outposts of the world, the Spurs walked into Iowa—and came back with a player who has a bit of a story.

A year ago Othyus Jeffers was a member of the Utah Jazz, and the Deseret News chronicled his unusual arrival to the NBA:

Adversity, however, is something Jeffers has battled and become familiar with during his life, though you’d never know by his demeanor.

“I’m always smiling,” he said.

Not an easy thing to do considering his past.

Years ago, two of Jeffers’ older brothers were shot and killed not far from his family’s apartment in Chicago’s rough West Side. He was also shot in the leg while trying to protect his sister during a fight with her boyfriend.

But what defines Jeffers is not these moments, but like many Spurs role players before him, what he has taken from these moments, to let the Deseret News continue:

Jeffers credits his mom and his college studies in psychology for helping him overcome his tough background, focus his emotions and make positive things happen in his life, with this call-up to the NBA being the ultimate highlight.

“You learn how to dissect the mind pretty much,” said Jeffers, who finished his college career as Sporting News’ NAIA player of the year at Robert Morris University after stints at Illinois-Chicago and Los Angeles Southwest College.

“Basketball is different from your outside life, so that’s a whole ‘nother part,” he said. “So, I just try to channel to the right parts and, you know, I’m doing OK. I’m fine.”

Jeffers tenure with the Spurs will probably be limited, with Popovich stating that anyone he brings in is not likely to take minutes from the people he has been playing all season. But that’s not to say this can’t serve as an audition for the Summer League, Austin, or even next year’s training camp (assuming any of these exist for next season).

An excerpt from Draft Express on what Jeffers brings to the table:

Jeffers’ biggest strength (besides his athleticism) clearly lies in his defense. He is incredibly tough and can absolutely smother opponents on the perimeter with his terrific combination of strength and length, taking great pride on this end of the floor. He gets in the passing lanes at an excellent rate, and is lightning quick getting out in transition. This activity level certainly translates to his work on the glass, where he is arguably the best rebounding wing player in the D-League, at nearly 10-boards per-40. He is especially impressive on the offensive glass, which is one of the main reasons he is so efficient from the field.

Of course, for such a desired skill set to be floating around the D-League, there would have to be some obvious flaws to his game:

The part of his game that needs to improve the most is clearly his jump-shot. He’s currently not a threat at all to make shots from the perimeter, showing inconsistent shooting mechanics, with a release point way above his head, and very streaky range outside of 15 feet, both with his feet set and especially off the dribble. To really take his game to the next level, Jeffers must become at least a decent perimeter shooter, as he won’t be able to get to the rim in the NBA or high-level Europe nearly as effectively as he does in the D-League.

This flaw probably negates any impact or hopes Jeffers might have for this season, but as we’ve seen in the past, the Spurs are pretty meticulous in who they allow into their locker room. And while Popovich might not know much about Jeffers, he knows enough to have him here, for the next 10 days at least.

  • http://www.bpifanconnect.com Alix Babaie

    I hope that Jeffers surprises us all and pulls off a good replication of Corey Brewer, although that is unlikely to happen.

    While I wish we would have been able to acquire him, I still feel like the Spurs will be just fine.

    The main key, as it has always been all year long…..stay healthy.

  • ITGuy

    Welcome Mr. Othyus Jeffers.

    Go Spurs Go!!

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Len

    Sounds like a good guy. He appears to have a brain and likes to play D, its a good start. Show us what you got Mr. Jeffers.

  • Titletown99030507

    Something about Pop and the hopefuls we don’t even know anything about seems to intrigue me. They’re just not hungry for basketball but also hungry for life. These are the kinds of players that are easy to teach and are willing to utilize every opportunity they get. Have to give it to Pop and the FO. Its kinda like paying it forward which may create good karma. We could use some of that.

  • TD = Best EVER

    From what I saw Last night,,,, SA may have given up on Alonzo Gee to quickly. he looked good attacking the basket and his jumper also seems to have improved. Its not everyday that we get athletes of his caliber. SA should bring him back long term this summer………

  • justin-ray

    @ td=best ever

    do the spurs ever do anything right in your eyes? Lol
    sure its easy for gee to get whatever he wants on a cavs team that has little talent.
    The spurs let him go for a reason.
    Lets see what jeffers has… Maybe he can earn a summer league spot and surprise us all like gary neal has.
    His build is good and he looks athletic. The fact that he is defense oriented will pay dividends on this team when it comes to impressing pop.
    ….. Back to alonzo gee…. Give me a break td=best ever. The dude spent 2 years around the spurs organization… In that case i bet the spurs gave up on ian mahimni too soon as well huh? Lmao

  • TD = Best EVER

    @ justin-ray

    “Back to alonzo gee…. Give me a break td=best ever. The dude spent 2 years around the spurs organization… In that case i bet the spurs gave up on ian mahimni too soon as well huh? Lmao”

    Well if you know anything about basketball you would know that the answer there is yes we did…….. Mahimni is better this year than Splitter is. He plays stronger in the post and is only half the $…….. Who wouldn’t want better for half the price…… and did I mention he has been healthy basically all year long………

    As far as Gee – he just needs playing time because he already has the things that you can’t teach. Size/Athleticism. You can teach shooting(shooting coach by the name of Chip….. Hello) 38% from 3 this year…. Not bad….. He can be another RJ in this league easy…….. And he make 1/3 or what Anderson makes……

    So yes we let him go for financial reason mostly, but probably should have kept him and tried to save money by not giving so much $ to RJ/Bonner/Splitter. Just a little off the top off each of them and we can keep Ian and Gee and we are not looking for another Big or wing defender right now……..

  • Nikolas

    Well either way, some players will get away from the spurs. Alonzo Gee showed promise, but i don’t think we could have worked him into the scheme of things. and of course his numbers are bolstered by playing on the cavs, just like when he played on the terrible wizards last year and scored over 10 pts in most of his games. I bet if tiago played for the cavs, his numbers would be doubled, due to a massive increase in playing time. We develop our players here, and many have got away for different reasons, udrih, scola, possibly mahinmi. But in the end I trust every decision Pop makes, because he knows whats best for the Spurs, just like the signing of Othyus Jeffers.

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Len

    TD,

    Man, you have given your support to the team signing everybody. Now you are blathering on about Mahinmi?

    Jesus dude, give it a rest. Mahinmi simply fouls too much. Actually he fouls way way too much.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mahinia01.html

    Check out the fouls per 36 minutes. He does not fit on the team with the least number of fouls in the entire league.

    http://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/personal-fouls-per-game

    Hell, if the Mavs didn’t have him they would have the fewest fouls in the league. So I guess Ian has some value after all, lol.

    Mahinmi has some OK post moves and is a decent rebounder but he simply didn’t fit in SA. Not enough discipline for Pop’s tastes; End of story.

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Len

    You can teach shooting(shooting coach by the name of Chip….. Hello) 38% from 3 this year…. Not bad….. He can be another RJ in this league easy…….. And he make 1/3 or what Anderson makes……

    There is about a 1% chance that Gee “becomes another RJ in this league”. You have an annoying habit of thinking that a lot of players can help the Spurs. Guess what, Carlos Arroyo, Leon Powe, Dan Gadzuric, Sasha Pavlovic, Marcus Cousin or Josh Howard aren’t going to help. There’s a reason they aren’t signed with another team but you carry on like getting a couple of them is an absolute must.

    And you have such class…

    “OK about this Brewer thing – Our FO has to get off their butts and do some old fashion recruiting here…. Send the guys some hot girls or champagne or something.”

    The Spurs are not the Mavs or the Lakers. Crap like this belongs in their forum’s not the Spurs. Buddy, I think you’re a closet Dallas fan. You sure as sh!t act like one.

    How about this whine..

    “If w don’t get Brewer AND Powe or another big, we are in trouble.”

    Dallas is gonna get Brewer and SA isn’t getting another big. So according to you the Spurs are in trouble now because the roster than has gone 50-11 hasn’t changed, LOL. Sounds to me like that closet Dallas fan is coming out again.

    I’m sure you think that you’re being a great fan. You know what the club needs and hopefully somebody with some sense will finally listen to you. But I say, what if most Spurs fans were like you? We would be exactly like the Mavs.

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Len

    Oh excuse my phrasing….

    There’s a reason that Marcus Cousin isn’t signed with the pro club.

  • Drizzl

    Gee is fine in Cleveland. If you pay attention to the side of the court that San Antonio values, you will realize why they let him go.

    His man defense is average, but his real deficiency was team defense. If you can’t play team defense, you’re not playing on the Spurs.

  • http://fundamentally-sound.blogspot.com Jaceman

    One buyout FA I’m actually kind of interested in is not mentioned at all, but that’s because he’s recovering from knee surgery, and I don’t think we really have any visibility into his recovery schedule and progress. Nonetheless, if he can make a successful comeback, I’d be very interested in adding him, and I think he can be had for cheap: Kelenna Azubuike.

  • justin-ray

    lmao @ ian mahimni is better than splitter! Thats funny as hell bro… Closet mavs fan… Len may be on to something there :)

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Len

    “Well if you know anything about basketball you would know that the answer there is yes we did…….. Mahimni is better this year than Splitter is. He plays stronger in the post and is only half the $”

    Well, if YOU knew anything about basketball, you’d know that Mahinmi is a foul machine. Look at these per 36 stats…

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mahinia01.html

    He’s up to 7.5 fouls per 36 minutes, ouch.

    Now compare his number to Tiago’s numbers…

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/splitti01.html

    Other than the fouls, they compare pretty evenly. Ian shoots, blocks slightly better and Tiago passes, takes charges and steals better. Rebounding is even. I’ll take wagers that Tiago improves much more than Ian will; wanna bet?

    But beyond the stats, Ian isn’t disciplined enough for Pop; End of story.

  • AS

    Cuban is using his money just to keep Brewer away from San Antonio, and Brewer is greed enough to bite.
    Good that SA didn´t sign a guy that is not smart enough to see that if he develops as a player, he´ll make more money along his career.

  • TD = Best EVER

    @ Len

    You and others just seem to think that all that SA does is golden……. TO say we need help in the defensive end isn’t being a Mavs fan. It’s telling the truth. We have given up huge games to average players. Samardo Samuels & Darrel Arthur, Tony Allen are just a few of the latest nobodies who have had near career games against us. We will face better talent in the playoffs. So that’s my concern, and should be yours if you are a Spurs fan.

    I do stay in Dallas and I do have a lot of friends who are Mavs fans. And no they sound more like you than me…… All they say is look at our record and we didn’t have Dirk for 10 games or whatever it was……. Record means nothing w/o Defense….. if you are a SPURS fan…… They have been pointing to record the past 4 years, and Suns/Nuggets fans as well…. So who sounds mor Mavs like

    “So according to you the Spurs are in trouble now because the roster than has gone 50-11 hasn’t changed, LOL. Sounds to me like that closet Dallas fan is coming out again.”

    There you go, pub that record………

    The Since we won in 99 only 4 times has the team with the best record won it all……99/2003 US. 2001-LA (swept us and the Kings) and Boston. And I think all 4 teams were top 5 in D

  • Hobson13

    Spurs whiffed on any real free agent so this guy is simply a filler. He’s simply here to fill out our minimum roster requirements.

    Jaceman
    March 3rd, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    Azubuike would be a great addition, but he hasn’t been healthy all year and isn’t expected to be back for quite some time. The only reason we would sign him is to obtain his Bird Rights.

  • http://www.espn.com texasj

    td=best ever. your argument that the team with the best reg season record has only won 4 times since 99 is moot. the only way for someone to argue against that is to argue that the spurs should lose more reg season games so that they dont fall under that categorey. And by acquiring these “must have” players (your opinion) would make us better, thus increasing our regular season record even more. making your previous point even more valid. it makes no sense. pick another point to debate on as to why we MUST have these players because the one you have now faults a team for winning games, which like i said before makes no sense.

  • Hicksman

    Yep Ian must have shown soo much in training camp etc in Dallas,that’d be why Dallas went out and got Chandler?? With Haywood already geting paid starters money if Ian was going to crack a rotation for meaningful minutes this would have been his best chance?? With Alonzo I thought he maybe able to do something in his first year before Rage was traded for but could crack the rotation when we didn’t really have a SF (well an ageing Bowen) therefore we went out and got Rage. As for the Splitter argument he’s shown mre in half a season than Ian did in 3 yrs. Admittedly not as much as we would have liked but most players seem to struggle in their 1st yr in our system (see Rage 2.0) and thats players accustomed to the NBA game. So it might take longer for Splitter than we wanted but I think he will be worth waiting for. @ TD=Bestever I think usually you’re on the money but you’re wayyy off on this one!! At 50/11 we should be okay.
    GO SPURS GO!!

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Len

    “Well if you know anything about basketball you would know that the answer there is yes we did…….. Mahimni is better this year than Splitter is. He plays stronger in the post and is only half the $”

    Well, if YOU knew anything about basketball, you’d know that Mahinmi is a foul machine. Look at these per 36 stats…

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mahinia01.html

    He’s up to 7.5 fouls per 36 minutes, ouch.

    Now compare his number to Tiago’s numbers…

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/splitti01.html

    Other than the fouls, they compare pretty evenly. Ian shoots, blocks slightly better and Tiago passes, takes charges and steals better. Rebounding is even. I’ll take wagers that Tiago improves much more than Ian will; wanna bet?

    But beyond the stats, Ian isn’t disciplined enough for Pop; End of story.

    . “Record means nothing w/o Defense….. if you are a SPURS fan…… They have been pointing to record the past 4 years, and Suns/Nuggets fans as well…. So who sounds mor Mavs like”

    Defense is your concern, huh?

    Well then your approval of Mahinmi makes zero sense. The guy will put the opposition in the bonus by his lonesome. Good luck with that..

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Len

    A Dallas fan is the one that thinks that stacking your team with former all stars is the way to win a championship. And when that roster doesn’t win one, do everything you can to blow it up and try again. Cuban has ADD and tries every quick fix he can for the Mavs.

    That is what you sound like when you post a new has been every day that the Spurs must go out and sign.

    The Spurs have rarely (Nazi) been trade deadline players. It is not their style because it takes a bit of time to learn the Spurs system. Any Spurs fan should know that but you blather on about Carlos Arroyo, Leon Powe, Dan Gadzuric, Sasha Pavlovic and Josh Howard anyway.

    Not to mention, Brewer and Jeffries are far from “must have” players. Would they have helped? Probably a bit. The FO should have done more, imo. But, I’m not going to carry on and say the team is in trouble because they weren’t signed. This Spurs team is on a historic run and you act like they have little shot at a championship.

    Would you have prefered the Spurs play slow, half court in the regular season? Thrown it down to Tim 30-40 times a night and slow the game down so the team’s defense numbers would be better? That strategy is dead, Tim is 34. Pop is playing to his teams strengths. He is maximizing the talent that is under contract. This team wasn’t even supposed to win 50 games at the start of the season. Pop should be commended but instead all you do is complain. It’s pathetic.

  • TD = Best EVER

    @ texasj

    “it makes no sense. pick another point to debate on as to why we MUST have these players because the one you have now faults a team for winning games, which like i said before makes no sense.”

    I swear it like people try hard not to read what I’m saying. I’m saying regular season success w/o defense means nothing…….. And the players we are needing to add would help us with the holes in our D. Thereby making us better on D, and then more likely to win it all and not waste this great start. It shouldn’t be hard to understand that. You may disagree with it but to not understand it really takes some doing.

    And let me say again, that even if we make no moves I will route for SA, because I want Tim/Manu to win another ring. They are my 2 favorite players in the NBA and therefore Spurs are my favorite team. Oh and before somone calls me a Closet case something fan….. David Robinson was my 2nd favorite player back when MJ played, so after he retired it was an easy transition to SA

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Len

    “I’m saying regular season success w/o defense means nothing…….. And the players we are needing to add would help us with the holes in our D. Thereby making us better on D, and then more likely to win it all and not waste this great start”

    Leon Powe isn’t the same player since he left Boston. Two years in basketball hell and he has barely played any D. Splitter plays better defense that he does currently. You planning on turning back the clock 2 years?

    And you’re saying that Sasha Pavlovic, Ian Mahinmi, a washed up Josh Howard, Carlos Arroyo or Dan Gadzuric would “help with the holes on D”?? A group of players that can’t spell defense?? That is hilarious.

  • rob

    @ Len

    Excellent points.

    ________________________

    Regarding the actual content of the original post…sounds like Jeffers similarily plays like Brewer.

  • TD = Best EVER

    @ Len

    “This team wasn’t even supposed to win 50 games at the start of the season. Pop should be commended but instead all you do is complain. It’s pathetic.”

    No whats pathetic is people who keep trying to sweep every flaw under a “best record in the league” statement. And all because you may have thought it was over I didn’t……I wasn’t expecting this, but I felt we had another in us……simply because of what we did last year… We had a 4th qt lead i think in 3 of the 4 games vs the Suns and we would have matched up well with LA last year. Because they had a horrendous bench, which was our weakness.

    But back on point – I don’t recall saying much of anything at all about Sasha Pavlovic/Carlos Arroyo.

    But to say Dan Gadzuric , Ian Mahinmi, Josh Howard, or Leon Powe couldn’t help us is plain crazy talk. Josh would be a great back up SF and has been a very good defender in this league. Also I did say that he wasn’t available.

    Dan would be a great 4th/5th big on any team. you can’t teach size

    Ian Mahinmi – has shown in several stinks this year due to injury that he can get it done in limited minutes. Again for a 4th Big, he would be awesome. He can block shots/rebound/ and play tougher D that Tiago can now…… he also fouls more but that cool because we only need him for 10-15 min a night anyway. Every team needs someone to do some dirty work.

  • soulidefy

    as usual, tdbe, i ask you to get that knee jerk of yours checked out.

    sure, the best record doesnt always win the championship, and that arguement worked for us last year, but one thing that does mean a championship is the best TEAM play. that is why the spurs are more interested in the right mix of guys and let them develop chemistry. i feel like some people would rather just like to change out parts on a weekly basis for something better. (ie, well, neal is 6’5″ and a good shooter but i just found a 6’6″ good shooter, so goodbye.) some players will always be good players on bad teams….would we want ben gordon? never. sure, he has skills the spurs would be interested in, but he cant fit into building the program that is the sas. tiago has struggled, but he is learning our strengths and weaknesses, and we are learning him. then everybody can find the best position to succeed. Neal has figured out the offensive end pretty fast, but not so much the defensive end (although he is still a better defender than novak, which you argued). rj figured out the defense pretty fast, but not where to be on offense. time and chemistry later, and we are all very happy with his contributions. even the bonner haters have quieted, in season 3 or 4 i think, because the organization and matt himself have figured out how to use his strengths and disguise his weaknesses. someone said he is tops in +/-. i guess all im preaching is patience…..we cant just have the best player at every position. especially since we just wont buy it. its a team game so let the boys work. we could use a big sure, but realistically, will it make any difference come playoff time…..no. (see drew gooden). this is our team, and its the best in the nba right now. the way we play, we have an improvement margin, instead of just living and dying with the hot hand of kobe, dirk, or lebron. how many teams can win a game when there best players struggle?

    Someone made the great point that our team isnt set up for the grind it out tempo of tims post game anymore….that was evident last year as we struggled. so weve traded in some of our defense for an explosive offense. our defense is still solid, but the stats are skewed.

  • soulidefy

    josh howard? dope smoking non pledge of allegiance saying josh howard? if the spurs went there maybe i would become a mavs fan.

    note: i would not become a mavs fan.

  • junierizzle

    I think this whole argument is irrelevant.

    SPURS don’t just bring in people mid-season. It’s not even mid-season, there are only 21 games left.
    Bringing in either of these players wouldn’t guarantee a championship. When they didn’t sign Brewer I didn’t say “Crap there goes their chances.”

    And I’m pretty sure the MAVS haven’t assured themselves their first ring by acquiring Brewer either.

    In a nutshell, I love The Spurs’ chances.

    I know they haven’t played lock down D but they have shown they can get stops when it counts. That is why they are 50-11. They haven’t outscored everybody. And the best record does matter. It’s about home court advantage. Just ask the LAKERS if having home court helped them out last year.

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Len

    “Ian Mahinmi – has shown in several stinks this year due to injury that he can get it done in limited minutes. Again for a 4th Big, he would be awesome. He can block shots/rebound/ and play tougher D that Tiago can now…… he also fouls more but that cool because we only need him for 10-15 min a night anyway. Every team needs someone to do some dirty work.”

    Tiago, the guy you love to hate, has similar stats to Ian’s

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/splitti01.html

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mahinia01.html

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/blairde01.html

    Ian shoots much better and blocks slightly more (1.1 to .9)

    Tiago passes much better, steals much more and takes more charges., rebounds the same as Ian

    Blair rebounds much more, steals much more and passes better

    So, if it’s defense and passing the team wants, Tiago and DeJuan are superior to Ian. They have far better hands, steal more, pass better and rebound as good or better. Get a clue.

    Not to mention, Ian fouls 7.5 times per 36 minutes. It’s not cool. He puts the opposition halfway towards the bonus every quarter he plays. It’s a big fkn deal and Pop won’t play a guy that undisciplined.

  • rob

    There is a difference in being excited and/or wanting a player to join the team and thinking if player X doesn’t join the team the Spurs chances are screwed.

    Might as well be a Miami or Mavs fan, both bring in johnny come lately players who they think will perform better than the next all the while letting another player X go only to screw up team chemistry and not win a thing. And I’m not talking about bringing in a D-league player.

    I haven’t seen (in the time I’ve been watching basketball) any team that brought in a player this late in the season where that player made such an immediate impact to actually help their team win the championship. If there is evidence or history of that…please…somebody help me remember.

  • TD = Best EVER

    @

    “as usual, tdbe, i ask you to get that knee jerk of yours checked out.”

    I don’t think saying we need to get better on D makes me knee jerk, especially when it has been said all year long.

    But the bigger arguement here and all year long seems to be TALENT vs. CHEMISTRY

    Most here seem to argue that CHEMISTRY and collective time under fire are what it takes to build a championship team. That no matter how the talent level stacks up compared to other teams, you will be fine if you just play TEAM. And that no matter what a players weakness, that a TEAM can cover them up and all will still be ok. CHEMISTRY > TALENT

    I may be alone – but I’m in the other camp. TALENT > CHEMISTRY. You have to be able to get it done, and the less help you need the better. I think that having players like Bonner/Blair who are gonna always need help defending are an issues and that you need to limit their minutes if they are not giving you what they are good at. Shooting and Boards in this case. That the less double teaming and scrambling you do on D the better.

  • Hassan

    You guys keep arguing all the time but the fact is Defense wins…The spurs are not top5 in defense and they don’t have enough defensive bigs.. I worry now that even the Thunder can beat us with perk covering Duncan in the palyoffs when the game slows down. I wish we didn’t pass the opportunity I heard about been able to acquire Nazi Mohammed+ 1st rounder(for Mcdyess- with buyout return) or Nene at the trade dealine for the expiring of Mcdyess+ Splitter + JA + 1st rounder …

    I just feel we need another shot blocking big..did you juys see what Nazi did last night against Hibbert..it was great….

    Well.. hope we win it all coz we only got a 2 yr window…

    GO SPURUS GO…Drive For 5…

  • rob

    It’s a combination of both. Chemistry and Talent.

  • Tim in Surrey

    Hey, hey, let’s settle down everyone and remember: We’re supposed to be one big, happy, rock-pounding family, delirious with our 50 victories! Or have some of you been hitting the Mountain Dew a little early?

    @Jaceman – Nice call. I had thought Kelenna might be a good pickup, too, and I think a couple of others mentioned him as well. When last seen in Golden State he was absolutely on fire. But he has been out for a long time, with a patella tendon tear, iirc. In any case, it’s a serious injury and who knows what he has left in the tank? The other issue of course is that he’s not much of a defender. But I’ve always liked his versatile game and his spirit, even if he is an ex-Kentucky Wildcat. In any case, though, it would be more for the future, as I believe it will take him some time to get back up to speed (if he ever can).

    About Powe: I love the guy, but honestly he may well be done. It’s a shame because he was a phenomenal talent when he was younger. But he had two very serious injuries at Cal and has never been the same since. Still, he’s another guy with a lot more going for him than just his physical gifts. I’m still amazed that he ever played in the NBA at all, given his injury issues.

    It’s funny, though. When I think about guys like Azubuike and Powe, I always come back to the most amazing person on our roster–Antonio McDyess. What a story he continues to be! And you so rarely hear any complaints about his legs or all that he lost. He’s like the Steven J. Hawking of basketball. So to loop back to the OP, it’s nice to welcome Othyus Jeffers to the Spurs as another guy who doesn’t back down in the face of adversity. Best of luck, Othyus!

  • Hobson13

    TD=BE,

    At this point, I think you are wasting your time. I made a benign statement a week ago that the Spurs should look to bring in a decent FA (I specifically used Murphy and Brewer as examples) to help us shore up some deficiencies and add more talent. Of course a number of people thought this suggestion was completely ludicrous. They hid behind statements such as “Well the Spurs have the best record,” or “There’s no need to over react,” or “This is just hand waving since Pop and RC know what they’re doing.”

    With the record we have, fans simply won’t listen to objective criticism. Sure they give lip service to understanding the Spurs deficiencies, but their general response is that the poor defense, no lockdown wing defender, a small frontline will all work itself out. Pop and RC can wave a magic wand and fix this because afterall, the Spurs do have the best record in the league (sarcasm). Unless the Spurs show large improvements in the area of defense and rebounding, I’m afraid many bloggers will be very disappointed with the outcome in May.

  • Tim in Surrey

    @Rob – I’m mostly with you, but I do remember one: The Pistons once brought in some hothead named Rasheed in mid-season, back in February of 2004. I think it worked out pretty well for them.

  • rob

    Some in subconscious mode want the negative to happen just to say “I told you so”.

    I look forward to the day I can say that to those.

    Go Spurs Go!!!

  • TD = Best EVER

    @ Hobson13

    + 100

    @ Rob

    If I’m wrong and we do win it all…. I will be the 1st to admit it and take all the flack you and others can throw at me…….. Because at least we will have 5 rings then……..

    And No we don’t want the negative to happen, we want to sure up some potential holes in our line up.

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Len

    Hobson,

    I never said any of those “blanket responses”. I questioned how helpful many of the above mentioned players would be. I also believe I mentioned that Brewer and Jeffries would probably help a bit. I also followed that up with the parameter that I’m not proclaiming the Spurs to be in trouble if they weren’t signed unlike some other posters. After all, even though the team has problems, they have found a way to overcome them to achieve the best record. They obviously have enough strengths to overcome their shortcomings. In fact, show me any team that doesn’t have some “issues”.

  • rob

    @ TD=BE

    “And No we don’t want the negative to happen, we want to sure up some potential holes in our line up.”

    I truly can respect that. I myself have made several trade proposals that I think would help the Spurs. But I never thought if they don’t happen the Spurs can’t win it all with who they have now. This team has gone beyond what pundits (and myself) thought they would be able to do. And that’s comparing them to what were already good teams that got expotentially better through the off season.

    There IS something special about this team this year. I’m enjoying this. Duncan has been playing limited minutes thus far. Parker and Ginobili are playing better than they have in recent years. The bench is far better than it was the past couple of years. And Duncan has not yet begun to peak or play at his best. McDyess has found the fountain of youth as long as he doesn’t play significant minutes. Blair, though inconsistent, has moved from bench to starter and come playoff time I believe his talent(s) will exhibit a formidable post player worthy of going against some of the best. Gary Neal is a shocker and God send who is only going to get better as the season progresses.

    On top of that…Spurs defense has traditionally gotten better as the season wears down. I don’t see any evidence of that not happening again.

    So there is a lot to be hopefull and positively intrigued about to be focused on what they don’t have.

    ________________________

    @ Len

    Great point again…what team DOESN’T have their own issues.

  • justin-ray

    td=best ever

    thats exactly my view on the nba… Chemistry and time together as a team under one system is greater than talent alone… But you see the spurs have a collection of both… Honestly more chemistry than talent… That goes for all of their 4 titles. Pop and rc know what they are doing. Knowing how to play the game versus just running out and flying through the air and chucking up 28 shots a game is what makes the spurs the spurs.
    Its so hard to win a title in any sport. The spurs have 4 in 12 seasons… And in the 12 seasons they have 50 wins at least each.
    We may not have the best players at every position. That is due mostly to our market.
    We gotta ride with who we got and never let die!

    Hop on guys lets go for a drive for 5!

  • DorieStreet

    Congratulations to the San Antonio Spurs: Achieving a 12th straight 50-win season (something that has only been done once before in the NBA’s 65 years of basketball). This is the 35th season the franchise has been in San Antonio competing in this league (since 1976-77), and the last one 1/3 of them have been at this winning pace of .609 or better. This year’s squad did it in just 61 games. Take a moment to do a personal “Thank You Spurs” for a decade plus of professional sports success.

    If it is not on the agenda already, can 48MOH contact city hall and get the franchise a proclamation day (and the requisite ‘key to the city’) for this notable achievement?

  • Junierizzle

    @hobson13 and td=be
    No one is saying that the Spurs ARE playing great D, or that they DONT need more size, or that they DONT need to rebound better,etc. Are we concerned? Sure
    The F.O. didnt make any moves so we’re just looking at what they DO have. And thats a great offense, a healthy core, outside shooting, not great D but capable of getting clutch stops, MANU, etc.
    I get it though, its just easier to say that a team wont win than win.
    Lakers wont repeat because they look old and they wont have homecourt.
    The Celtics wont win because they got rid of Perkins
    The heat wont win because theu dont have enough pieces.
    The Mavs wont win because they always choke.

  • Ian

    @Hobson13
    “Objective criticism”? Is that some kind of a joke?? Acquiring decent FAs to address the team’s shortcomings is a no brainer – that’s not a criticism: it’s a common sense. It’s not like everyone here didn’t know about it. But in hind sight, Spurs had no real chance at any of the marquee FAs that were bought out last month: Brewer was obviously pursuing more lucrative contract, and Murphy agreed not to join western conference teams when he was bought out. Other FAs? They aren’t really better than Quinn or Splitter are, so why would Spurs even bother to sign them up?

  • andy

    TD=BE
    “Dan [gadzuric] would be a great 4th/5th big on any team. you can’t teach size”

    yes, and apparently 4 years at ucla and 8 years in the association couldn’t teach him how to play.

    look, i think we all get that we’re not the defensive juggernaut of old. that’s obvious, but what doesn’t seem obvious to most of you is that we’re not bad on d either, and that none of these people being mentioned are going to make us a defensive juggernaut this season. i was pretty miffed that dallas got involved to nab brewer, but i don’t think he would have helped or hurt us that much this year. i wanted him for the future. what irks me, is that people (especially TD=BE lately {no offense})throw out any retread’s name out there and talk as if that player’s the key to our defensive salvation. i get that you think others are ignoring our flaws because of our record, but you’re ignoring their arguments too, namely that historically, bringing in someone to our system-heavy, team chemistry oriented spurs and expecting them to have a big impact is unrealistic.

    for what it’s worth, i believe that chemistry trumps talent, given there’s not too big a gap in talent level. it’s why i think the heat won’t win this year. if you’re saying that our spurs are that far behind the other contenders in talent, i think that’s insulting to the talents of our spurs. just my opinion, but i feel our front office wouldn’t say much different.

  • Bentley

    Im going to reserve my judgement for about a week or so.

    I want to see how we play against the Heat, Lakers, and Mavericks. The guys in silver and black will get up for ALL these games. We’ll see where we are then.

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Len

    “But back on point – I don’t recall saying much of anything at all about Sasha Pavlovic/Carlos Arroyo.”

    TD = Best EVER
    February 28th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    @ Mike – There a few options outside of Murphy that we could use.

    Center – Dan Gadzuric
    PF – Leon Powe – If he is healthy – all reports say so
    SF – Sasha Pavlovic

    TD = Best EVER
    March 2nd, 2011 at 10:32 am
    @ Obi Won Ginobili

    Yes we need an actual ball handler on out team. Quinn just doesn’t have the talent, and Hill is a mess when he tries to do to much. I would rather look into Temple, but Arroyo will fit in fine. He is better than Quinn is now……..

  • andy

    oops, about the op.

    i like that many of our finds have overcome adversity. jeffers seems to be a good kid who was in a lot of bad situations. i hope he can tap engelland and improve his shot enough to stick around. i’d like to see him maximise his defensive attitude and strength. he might not be as long as brewer, but neither was bowen.

  • Espoon

    @Len

    “Guess what, Carlos Arroyo, Leon Powe, Dan Gadzuric, Sasha Pavlovic, Marcus Cousin or Josh Howard aren’t going to help. There’s a reason they aren’t signed with another team but you carry on like getting a couple of them is an absolute must.”

    I will not make an arguement either way, however I want to comment on this last statement. It is not a good arguement to say that if a player is not on a team, or gets cut/realeased/boughtout, or is traded several times that they can’t play. There are many reasons why things like this happen; money, desire to go younger, not enough room at his position, and not the right fit for a certain team. Gary Neal left college long ago, he just needed to find the right opportunity and fit. Antonio Daniels a 12yr NBA vet. is playing in the D-League. J. Childress went overseas for 2 years and Rafer Alston is not in the NBA, they have both proven they can play. Roger Mason Jr. can’t see the floor in NY and no matter how bad you think he is, he is still good enough to see some time. If you don’t think these players can help the that should be the auguement not that they are not on a team now.