El Conclusión: San Antonio Spurs 102, Phoenix Suns 91

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Phoenix Suns 91 Final
Recap | Box Score
102 San Antonio Spurs
Tim Duncan, C 31 MIN | 10-14 FG | 4-6 FT | 11 REB | 4 AST | 24 PTS | +5

The Phoenix Suns really are the fountain of youth. Vintage Duncan night, his first 20 and 10 game of the season.

Richard Jefferson, SF 31 MIN | 3-6 FG | 2-2 FT | 4 REB | 5 AST | 8 PTS | +16

He’ll never be the fourth star some envisioned when he got here, but Richard Jefferson is quietly a very reliable player. Had a key steal and dribble pull-up in the fourth.

DeJuan Blair, F 32 MIN | 7-12 FG | 0-0 FT | 6 REB | 2 AST | 14 PTS | +2

Won’t always have the advantage of being matched up with Channing Frye every night, but exploited mismatches, created shots from the post, and was active. Would have quite a few more points if Parker looked for him running the floor and sealing defenders off for a quick lob pass.

Tony Parker, PG 35 MIN | 8-20 FG | 1-3 FT | 4 REB | 9 AST | 17 PTS | +11

Tonight Parker showed why his footwork is just as important as his speed, befuddling Suns’ defenders with a variety of spins and ball fakes.

Kawhi Leonard, SF 33 MIN | 4-8 FG | 2-2 FT | 8 REB | 1 AST | 12 PTS | +9

Quickly becoming a reliable double digit scorer and nightly double-double threat. The two three-pointers were nice, but his jumper was still too flat to be consistent from range.

Matt Bonner, PF 17 MIN | 2-5 FG | 2-2 FT | 5 REB | 3 AST | 8 PTS | +9

Hit a pair of three-pointers, hit the boards, and hit some open teammates with smart passes. Overall a much better display from Matt Bonner.

Daniel Green, G 24 MIN | 2-5 FG | 2-2 FT | 3 REB | 1 AST | 7 PTS | -1

Still putting in quality minutes, but was a bit of a generic night from Green.

Gary Neal, PG 9 MIN | 1-6 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 1 AST | 2 PTS | -2

Appendicitis, gashed head, and now a thigh contusion to continue what Pop called a mess of an early season for Gary Neal.

Tiago Splitter, C 17 MIN | 3-4 FG | 3-4 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 9 PTS | +6

Was the Spurs one-man 6-0 run to start the second. Had a few nifty fakes and, more importantly, hit his free throws–a development to watch as the season goes on.

Cory Joseph, G 13 MIN | 0-1 FG | 1-2 FT | 1 REB | 1 AST | 1 PTS | 0

The primary backup point guard to start the game. Didn’t mess up, didn’t contribute in the box score. But there is hidden value we’ll discuss later.

Five Things We Saw

  1. Tim Duncan his finding a rhythm with the team relying on him just a little more. Averaging roughly 16 points, nine rebounds, and four assists over the last five games.
  2. Tiago Splitter has nifty footwork, some great fakes, but a terrible hook shot. Early in his NBA career his greatest offensive strength is an ability to generate free throws. He is now making them, making him a valuable offensive weapon to go with the quality defense he provides.
  3. Kawhi Leonard is not an explosive athlete, but his strength and balance are underrated athletic attributes that allow him to create contact and still finish. Sort of like a taller, longer, more perimeter oriented version of DeJuan Blair.
  4. Even before Neal went down, Cory Joseph entered the game early as the primary backup point guard. While individually he has little impact on the game, his presence keeps players like Green and Neal off the ball and working off screens–roles they are far more comfortable with.
  5. Shooting guard is the most abundant, generic position in the NBA. How the Phoenix Suns do not have a single viable one on their roster is beyond me.
  • Bankshot21

    AAll the grades fall in line with the stats. This is the 1st time I’ve noticed that.

  • Deeds130

    How professional basketball players don’t seem to undestand that you need to put some arc on your shots, is forever beyond me.

    Meanwhile, Anderson sure is in the doghouse.

    Oh, and it’s not just Phoenix… the supply of shooting guards has quietly dwindled throughout the NBA, just as PGs have proliferated (though, in 3 years you’ll see an abundance of SGs once again). SA isn’t the only team thick with guards, but it does give Buford some trade leverage at this particular moment, especially with Kawhi and Green just as likely to slot in at guard as at forward.

  • http://twitter.com/blanchard48moh Jesse Blanchard

    To Leonard’s credit, at least he shows proper backspin. James Anderson launches knucklers. Anderson is more of a scorer than a spot-up shooter.

    And start shooting guards, yes. Definitely a drought. But just average shooting guards? There’s no excuse for them not having one. I mean, they’re starting Jared Dudley there and he came into the league as a combo forward that played better in Charlotte at the four. 

  • http://twitter.com/blanchard48moh Jesse Blanchard

    Only my second time doing these, going to take some time to find a rhythm. 

  • Lvmainman

    Good thing the Spurs are securing the home court, because this team still doesn’t seem capable of winning a road game any time soon.

    How many moving picks did Gortat get a away with? Had to be a record. Baffled how the refs missed a travel to start the 4th qtr by the Suns when Morris ran the baseline to inbound the ball.

    Leonard is doing a good job of cutting without the ball and making smart drop off bounce passes when he goes off the dribble. Splitter still needs more playing time for designated post ups, the old Duncan 4 down play.

  • Justin-ray

    Next up miami

  • Bob

    Splitter needs to play with TD more. He will get a shorter opponent to post up against.

  • http://radsci.uthscsa.edu/index.php/User:Nima Nima K.

    I’m worried about JA. If he keeps stagnating like this, his future will become more and more uncertain with this team after this season.

  • Anonymous

    Hang in there Mr. Neal.  You’ll be back to 100 health.

    Congrats to Timmy for surpassing Gary Payton on the all time scoring list while providing a vintage performance.

    Agreed with all the grades.  This game could have been easily a blow out… but the Spurs kept allowing the Suns to get back in the game.  And the Suns didn’t do anything spectacular to get back in the game.  The Spurs were flat as a team in many areas except for Tony and Timmy having really good individual performances.

  • Bry

    I liked Splitter’s game, but he made a huge mistake with a few seconds left in the third (maybe he had a Euro-flashback where you can goaltend offensively). With the clock running down he interferes with Green’s shot (which not only looked like it was going in, but was also still burning clock) and then the Suns have enough time to hit a buzzer-beater on the other end. 2-4 point swing and gives the Suns momentum going into the 4th, all from a brain-fart play by Splitter. The Spurs did show a taste of the future during the first five minutes of the 4th however. Pop left in all the young guys for a key 4th quarter stretch. He showed some impressive faith in the younglings. I guess we won’t hear too much more complaining about how the young guys need more playing time this year and how Pop is too foolish or stubborn to play rookies.

  • Bry

    True, it’s surpising that with Ginobili out, Ford out, and finally Neal out that Anderson is getting no minutes. If he doesn’t get any burn now, when will he?

  • Hicksy73

    Yep and I loved his game……..come JA it’s in there somewhere : )

  • Bankshot21

    Was intended more as a compliment than a dig at you or Andrew. It shows that you guys have continued to acknowledge the concerns of your faithful bloggers.

  • Anonymous

    Probably when he learns to play better defense.  That’s the only thing I can think of that’s keeping him off the court under current circumstances.  That… and as Jesse pointed out… Anderson is more of a scorer than spot up shooter.  You have to “create” more of a favorable situation for him to be most effective on offense than what the Spurs generally execute when running their offense.

    Anderson would do better (at least probably more playing time) if he were on a Knicks or Suns type of team.

  • Anonymous

    This guy shouts as a Spur type of player and what they need in the post.

    Nice write up:
    http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/panamerican/11_mpag_lewis_feature.html

    He’s currently listed as the second most efficient big man in the DL.  Has steadily and consistently improved each season.  AND… get this…he likes playing as a “role player” with interior defense being one of his best attributes.

    Not that he’s going to be a “savior”…but in the least…worth a small non-guaranteed contract to see how he develops in the NBA.

  • Youz

    Probably because Gortat looks like a stiff most of the time.

  • Tyler

    It’s not Anderson’s defense. It’s the fact he hasn’t made shots. He’s a much better shooter than he’s showed, but until they start going in, it’s hard for me to see him getting any time.

  • Anonymous

    Someone’s going to lose minutes in the front court if they get the big your looking for. Bonner may be the odd man out. I’s crazy to get in the big everyone is clamoring for and sit either Blair or Splitter for it. These two are improving with every game. Blair’s defense under the rim was good last night. Also  played with more patience and he let the opportunities come to him in regards to scoring. I’l say it again patience is key to his success. Either Gortat is slow under the rim or Blair is picking up his defense. Regardless good game on his end. Splitter is coming along as well although I wish the youngins would have looked for him a little more on offense the second time he was in. As for the goal tending at least we’re seeing some aggressive moves coming out of him. He’s going to the ball more on offense and asking for it. Noticed last night there were several times the second unit missed him on some wide open looks going to the rim. That has to be remedied, he could have easily had 6 more points not to mention the one he tried to put back on a rebound fading away which almost went in as well as the put back slam he would have had only to be fouled by frye. He completely took Splitter’s hand off the ball and no call. If you watch closely every game Splitter’s defenders get away with a lot of holding him and pushing him. Ref’s need to start calling this stuff. He’d be at the line more. Having said that I wouldn’t take away Blair’s or Splitter’s minutes just to see Bonner throw up some bricks. Also where and when do you insert the big man. Whose minutes get shaved? 

  • Anonymous

    Someone’s going to lose minutes in the front court if they get the big your looking for. Bonner may be the odd man out. I’s crazy to get in the big everyone is clamoring for and sit either Blair or Splitter for it. These two are improving with every game. Blair’s defense under the rim was good last night. Also  played with more patience and he let the opportunities come to him in regards to scoring. I’l say it again patience is key to his success. Either Gortat is slow under the rim or Blair is picking up his defense. Regardless good game on his end. Splitter is coming along as well although I wish the youngins would have looked for him a little more on offense the second time he was in. As for the goal tending at least we’re seeing some aggressive moves coming out of him. He’s going to the ball more on offense and asking for it. Noticed last night there were several times the second unit missed him on some wide open looks going to the rim. That has to be remedied, he could have easily had 6 more points not to mention the one he tried to put back on a rebound fading away which almost went in as well as the put back slam he would have had only to be fouled by frye. He completely took Splitter’s hand off the ball and no call. If you watch closely every game Splitter’s defenders get away with a lot of holding him and pushing him. Ref’s need to start calling this stuff. He’d be at the line more. Having said that I wouldn’t take away Blair’s or Splitter’s minutes just to see Bonner throw up some bricks. 
    Yeah he makes them but at what clip lately.  Also where and when do you insert the potential new big man. Whose minutes get shaved? 

  • Anonymous

    Sorry about the double post system error in DISQUS. Hey guys are you using “Rackspace” for your servers? They’ve been having some major issues.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure you meant to reply in my next post regarding Marcus Lewis.  And agreed with regards to Splitter and Blair improving.  But the Spurs are one of the worst teams regarding interior defense.  The Suns are one of the worst teams in the league at scoring in the paint.  Yet Gortat looked liked an all star candidate with 24 and 14 while a rookie in Morris looked more like a seasoned vet.

    It’s the Spurs biggest weakness.  And against a more talented post presence opponent…the Spurs will more than likely get demolished in both the ability to defend the paint AND score in the paint regardless of how much improvement Blair and Tiago have shown thus far in their offense.

    Obviously the Spurs can’t just give up who they are establishing in the perimeter via trade to land that type of big…and it appears the Spurs will be getting plenty of options to score in the paint with Duncan, Splitter and Blair.  So why not take a chance on what appears to be a Spur type of player who just happens to be making a name for himself as a formidable interior defender/rebounder from the D-league at a reasonable cost to have a player on the roster who just may develop into the type of player the Spurs are in need of the most regarding interior D outside of Duncan, Splitter and Blair?

    Depending on match ups and circumstances…Bonner or player X (in this case perhaps Marcus Lewis?) inserted in order to utilize the most appropriate skill set needed at the time.

  • Thomasholdren

    You dont insert anyone. PERIOD. We are sustaining offensive momentum. SCORING high volume was our strength last year and is our strength this year. Trying to find a “defender” is the dumbest move ever right now. Just like it was last year when we had, basically, the same thing going last year. LET ME REMIND YOU WE HAD THE BEST RECORD IN THE WEST WITH NO REAL DEFENDER IN THE POST.

    You, and everyone else, needs to recognize the fact that we are changing. You cannot dump a system on players that dont fit the system. You should have learned that last year, but obviously have not. DUMPING THE SYSTEM ON PLAYERS WHOM DONT MESH WOULD DO 2 THINGS. EFFECT SCORING AND PSYCHE. The same way it did last year when we averaged over 100 ppg then farted in the scoring column in the playoffs. 

    The fact would remain that even if we did get a defender for the post it wouldnt solidify ANYTHING. Tim isnt a defender now either. So really, if we wanted to be a defensive team we would need 2 bigs that could defend… 

    Your analysis of WHY we lost last year and what we need this year is WAY, WAY, off. 

  • Thomasholdren

    You dont insert anyone. PERIOD. We are sustaining offensive momentum. SCORING high volume was our strength last year and is our strength this year. Trying to find a “defender” is the dumbest move ever right now. Just like it was last year when we had, basically, the same thing going last year. LET ME REMIND YOU WE HAD THE BEST RECORD IN THE WEST WITH NO REAL DEFENDER IN THE POST.
    You, and everyone else, needs to recognize the fact that we are changing. You cannot dump a system on players that dont fit the system. You should have learned that last year, but obviously have not. DUMPING THE SYSTEM ON PLAYERS WHOM DONT MESH WOULD DO 2 THINGS. EFFECT SCORING AND PSYCHE. The same way it did last year when we averaged over 100 ppg then farted in the scoring column in the playoffs. 

    The fact would remain that even if we did get a defender for the post it wouldnt solidify ANYTHING. Tim isnt a defender now either. So really, if we wanted to be a defensive team we would need 2 bigs that could defend… 

    Your analysis of WHY we lost last year and what we need this year is WAY, WAY, off. 

  • Thomasholdren

    I find it interesting just how poorly Parker sees the floor. He literally has tunnel vision save for the pick and roll. There are always multiple times when RJ, Blair, Splitter, hell even Bonner flash, cut, or are running the floor WIDE OPEN. 

    This is why Tony will never be considered a TOP PG. His assists come from TD PNR, and he fails to get everyone involved. This needs to improve with the development of our “scoring style.” If he can learn how to get EVERYONE involved not just the post from a 1/2 court set, we will be good to go in the PLayoffs. 

    We really have to take a look at the offensive development of Blair, and Splitter in this case. Notice how they never get EASY baskets. They always have to make a move to score. That is because tony only gets it to them with back to the basket. Again, that is how Tony was taught. Feed tim in the post. Watch Tim work. 

    Tony has to get better anticipating cuts, looking off defenders, and giving our guys the ball when they are WIDE OPEN. 

    Good grades, but I disagree about the RJ comments. RJ has COMPLETELY changed momentum of 3-4 games this year by crucial shots or defensive plays. You wont see it in the box score, but he has easily won games for this team this year. He did have the highest +/-. But typical to the media that “if you dont score, youre not good.”

  • Thomasholdren

    I find it interesting just how poorly Parker sees the floor. He literally has tunnel vision save for the pick and roll. There are always multiple times when RJ, Blair, Splitter, hell even Bonner flash, cut, or are running the floor WIDE OPEN. 
    This is why Tony will never be considered a TOP PG. His assists come from TD PNR, and he fails to get everyone involved. This needs to improve with the development of our “scoring style.” If he can learn how to get EVERYONE involved not just the post from a 1/2 court set, we will be good to go in the PLayoffs. 

    We really have to take a look at the offensive development of Blair, and Splitter in this case. Notice how they never get EASY baskets. They always have to make a move to score. That is because tony only gets it to them with back to the basket. Again, that is how Tony was taught. Feed tim in the post. Watch Tim work. 

    Tony has to get better anticipating cuts, looking off defenders, and giving our guys the ball when they are WIDE OPEN. 

    Good grades, but I disagree about the RJ comments. RJ has COMPLETELY changed momentum of 3-4 games this year by crucial shots or defensive plays. You wont see it in the box score, but he has easily won games for this team this year. He did have the highest +/-. But typical to the media that “if you dont score, youre not good.”

  • Anonymous

    Your so full of Sh*t. For your information it was STIJL that insinuated we need to find a the big man we desperately need for interior defense. Read your own post. A scoring offense with no real defender in the post is what we had last year and still have this year. And you want to keep it this way?
     Do you have amnesia? GENIUS THAT’S WHAT GOT US BOUNCED OUT IN THE FIRST ROUND! GET A CLUE ROOK!

  • Anonymous

    Yeah you’d be surprised how many points Splitter can score when he’s WIDE OPEN if somebody would just feed him the damn ball.

  • Anonymous

    Most of those points Gortat made was from the outside against Poor Timmy. He made quite a few of those. But I agree none the less on your comment especially for the playoffs in regards to defending the post. Thomas Holdren seems to disagree. Maybe he thought I was you.

  • Onlywithhishelp

    Thanks again for this article with the grades.  I like it!

  • TD BestEVER

    I have to agree with title here…………We NEED better Defense inside and as far as “THE SYSTEM” that everyone keeps saying is too hard.  Tell that to Neal, KL, or even Roger Mason his 1st year here…… If you can ball you can fit our system in your 1st year.  The players who don’t work out are players who are looking for the place on the team.  If you know what you do well and just stick to it you will be fine

  • TD BestEVER

    You are right on here…….I’m still on the trade TP and find a young PG before we end up like The Suns with an over the hill Steve Nash and a bunch of role players…….Spurs should look at Steve Kerr and take a note from him, don’t hold on to players too long.  TP isn’t the face of the franchise, we can deal him and still be contenders for the next couple years.  

  • Anonymous

    Certainly someone who could make Tiago’s life a lot easier.  Guy’s playing at an immensely higher level this year but the stats just don’t show it because his spends most of his time on the court making up for Bonner’s shortcomings.

  • Bob

    I think that was CJ’s shot. Jon Barry even made the joke he was stealing points from the rookie. Even though that was a bad play I like his activity level.

  • Bry

    Ah, right. Joseph’s shot. That play didn’t hurt as much because we were at home. You do a momentum shifting blunder like that on the road, and you may well have just brought the whole crowd right back into the game. But, I shouldn’t be too hard on Splitter. He’s making strides this year.

  • Bushka

    Mate it’s Sarver. The guy is ridiculously cheap. They had one hell of a team and I loved the almost palpable angst when we matched up against them. Was a real rivalry. It’s a sad truth that a special player like Nash has to make do with an annual rotation of team mates.

    There’s an absolute bundle of remorseless shooting machines out there, and any of them would play the best ball of their life feeding off Nash’s vision. Servers in it for the money though(which in all honesty is his business I guess).

  • Bushka

    As much as it pains me I’m with TD on this one. I also think that Dejauns going to get better defensively, splitter is going to improve offensively and tp will score better as the season wears on. Incremental improvements in some cases and in others just a regression to the mean, will lift us on both sides of the court.

    The big we want is not going to be available to us this year without the team getting pulled apart to the point that it’s not worth it anyway. I honestly think the horses we see now are the ones we have through the season plus a healthy manu.

    Next year with some cap space, a new draft a young group with some talent in Blair, Splitter, Green,Leonard, and the vets plus possibly Timmy the spurs get a chance to rebuild without falling off a cliff

  • Bushka

    Unfortunately Tony is already considered a top PG Thomas.   The idea that they never get easy baskets is ridiculous.  This anecdotal Rubbish is absolutely ridiculous.

    His style is ideally suited to the Spurs offence and it to him.  Not every PG has to be Bob Cousy.

    TJ Ford is 7th in the league in Assist ratio (percentage of possessions that end in an assist at 39.5%
    Tony is 28th at 28.9%.  
    Russel Westbrook is a lowly 83rd at 19.9%

    Westbrooks PER is 20.5
    Tonys is 19.6
    TJ Fords is 12.8 

    TJ Ford is not the best Point Guard of those three, nor even close.

    What ford does well is run a 2nd unit by taking the ball out of the hands of Leonard/Green et al and making them work off the ball rather than trying to use sub par ballhandling in isolation sets.

    Nothing in those stats tells a perfect story.  What it does however tell you is that each player is an individual, with individual skills and abilities that are utilised by the Coach and team as best as possible.

    The spurs have always been about balance and team wide ball movement.  Manu is cast as the super creative wild card but one of the reasons we traditionally get good open looks and do so well off three point line is spacing created by dribble penetration.  Thats primarily Tony.

    Things change, but the anecdotal evidence where people say Tony doesnt get the ball to wide open people is nuts.  I’ve watched so many games, and seen a lot of drop off passes to inside men for wide open shots, but still I see people on forums with knee jerk reactions to singular events who extrapolate it into a career long trend.

  • Deeds130

    If you are saying that SA shouldn’t change it up too much right now, but should just continue to develop this group into the playoffs… well, I think there’s a solid case for that. And one arguement may well be that adding a 5th big at thus point could hurt you in the playoffs, if you’re changing your identity on the fly & too late in the season. And it doesn’t matter much anyway, b/c RC isn’t likely to make any changes anyway.

    BUT, if you are saying that it’s all well and good that the Spurs are changing into an offensive team, and simply need to forget about adding interior D… that’s crazy. Only MIA has a chance at winning a title without a conventional interior defensive presence that’s better than your team’s. And they have the abillity to outscore anyone with high% goals in the paint, and they also have athletes who can rachet up the D when they need to. The other contenders are LAL, OKC, and CHI. However much DB and Tiago may be improving, they simply aren’t enough to truly contend, even alongside TD… So eventually, SA is way better off taking minutes away from one (or both) of those guys in favor of a better fit. If they can’t find the ideal big they’re looking for, then keep looking ’cause this group is only gonna fall short – even if they overachieve. And, no, this group isn’t gonna succeed based on offense either, you’d definitely need some young perenial all-stars for that formula. Either way, the talent just isnt there right now.

  • Deeds130

    If you are saying that SA shouldn’t change it up too much right now, but should just continue to develop this group into the playoffs… well, I think there’s a solid case for that. And one arguement may well be that adding a 5th big at thus point could hurt you in the playoffs, if you’re changing your identity on the fly & too late in the season. And it doesn’t matter much anyway, b/c RC isn’t likely to make any changes anyway.

    BUT, if you are saying that it’s all well and good that the Spurs are changing into an offensive team, and simply need to forget about adding interior D… that’s crazy. Only MIA has a chance at winning a title without a conventional interior defensive presence that’s better than your team’s. And they have the abillity to outscore anyone with high% goals in the paint, and they also have athletes who can rachet up the D when they need to. The other contenders are LAL, OKC, and CHI. However much DB and Tiago may be improving, they simply aren’t enough to truly contend, even alongside TD… although a true PG would help these guys, thus giving the team high % shots, that is true. To truly compete though, SA does need much better D, and is way better off taking minutes away from one (or both) of those guys in favor of a better fit. If they can’t find the ideal big they’re looking for, then keep looking ’cause this group is only gonna fall short – even if they overachieve. And, no, this group isn’t gonna succeed based on offense either, you’d definitely need some young perenial all-stars for that formula. Either way, the talent just isnt there right now.

  • Deeds130

    Now it happened to me

  • Thomasholdren

    Please go back to the last 10 games and tell me what we did? 

    Take our team ppg the first 70 game. 

    Then see what happens when we went to McDyess and DEFENSE WINS RINGS in the final 10 plus the playoffs. Look at our scoring in the playoffs. Tell me what happened, GENIUS. 

    The only playoff game we won how many did we score? 

    ‘The losses tell me the score. 

    Our defense ppg remained consistent the whole year. SCORING IN THE PLAYOFFS was the kicker. IT was due to tempo and trying to win in the post. 

  • Thomasholdren

    No. Trading minutes for a DEFENDER, who cant score, in place of Tiago or ESPECIALLY BLAIR is stupid. We tried that last year and it was beyond IGNORANT. 

    We need all the scoring we can get now. Why? Because TD shows up in offensive form 1 out of every 3 games. IF you get a DEFENDER who cant score (a la McDyess) you better hold their C/PF to less than 18 ppg becuase TD and McDYESS averaged about that. 

    All the WE NEED A DEFENDER HOMERS out there need to realize that in order to get a defender you need to probably not play duncan. He scored 12 ppg last playoffs. Our strength is to OUTSCORE the opponent. Not hold them. 

    Tony = not a defender 
    RJ = average defender
    Manu  average defender
    Blair = Average Defender
    Tim = average Defender. 

    Face the facts of what we have. We HAVE TO PLAY UPTEMPO to have a chance. No one on our team can score AT WILL from a 1/2 court set. PERIOD. 

    The other aspect you “analysts” have to understand is our best PER player is BLAIR…. So taking him out of the equation for a DEFENDER is pretty stupid altogether.  AGAIN, we tried that LAST YEAR IN THE PLAYOFFS. DONT KEEP DOING THE SAME THINGS AND EXPECT DIFFERENT RESULTS. 

    I understand that you have issues separating “FANDOM” with Logic. Its hard to see us win with an equation, get older and not understand why it wont work anymore. That is the hardest aspect of coaching, playing, or life in general. But until you can accept the fact that we arent a DEFENSIVE team then you will continue to bet on players like “Antonio McDyess” and claim he is our missing piece. 

    Times change. Players get old. Accept it. And be thankful that our younger guys are getting minutes and playing effectively. 

  • Thomasholdren

    Tony doesnt get the ball to wide open CUTTERS OR FLASHERS…. FACT. 

    He runs a great PNR, and then can throw it out for a corner three. His vision IS LESS THAN DESIRABLE for a PG. 

    Tony is considered a “starting PG” 

    Here’s the list: 

    Paul, Rondo, Nash, Williams, Rose, Lawson, Jennings, Ellis, Lowry….. Parker MAY crack the top ten. Those are not in any order, but whom I would trade for Parker straight up EASY. 

    Again, Bushka, get with the times. Parker WAS PERFECT for us when TD WAS a beast. TP would be great with a great big. Parker, has proven on multiple occasions, that he cant handle the load by himself, and has HUGE ISSUES with getting people involved who are not named TD. Give me a list of where Parker falls as of now in regards to PGS. 

  • Justin-ray

    You all sound like whiners. Manu is out and our defense is getting better. We have scorers. We will have manu back in Feb. Duncan plays good post defense as well as splitter. Kawhi, danny and manu are superb perimeter defenders. We are 9-4 without the 3rd best shooting gaurd in the league (our best player) ….stop the crying

  • Justin-ray

    Just look at the mavs last year… enough said. Dirk is weak as hell in the post. Splitter is every bit as good as chandler. You all overexagerate. Ridiculous

  • TD BestEVER

    Manu isn’t the 3rd best and hasn’t been in 3 years……..He gets hurt way too often…..And if Splitter is NOT AS GOOD AS CHANDLER…….. Chandler is a top 5 post defender in the NBA.  Splitter isn’t in the top 20.

  • TD BestEVER

    Let me add Westbrook(pure talent in very high upside), Curry(hurt alot but I would still make that trade), And there are about 3-5 or so PG’s that are very close to TP.   Like Andre Miller, Collinson. Lou WIlliams to name a few.

  • Deeds130

    Your strategy is NOT a championship-winning strategy. It has little to do with “FANDOM” and more to do with watching both size and defense win titles year in and out, with very few exceptions. So until Blair & Splitter are cornerstones of an elite defensive squad, there will be an upgrade needed. I have some faith in Splitter + Duncan but, with an eye on the future, not much faith. And both Bonner and Blair will get abused by more imposing men at both ends when they meet up in the playoffs. And those big guys WILL be in the playoffs, no doubt. It’s not the whole equation, not by any stretch… But it is a glaring and obvious hole and has been ever since Pop started thinking that Bonner-as-heir-to-Horry was a winning strategy, when any opposing coach would tell you that Nazr was tougher to successfully gameplan against.

    Yeah, players get old. Exactly. And now the Spurs need to find their replacements. I’d like to see Splitter get fed more on offense, I liked him on the PnR last year for easier baskets. But still, they need more. And I have a real hard time believing Blair can succeed in the post-season… just like you won’t see Chuck Hayes do it (that’s on Cousins, if he can rise to the challenge, ’cause Hayes simply cannot), and you never saw Barkley win a ring either. Just like you need some way to get easy baskets in the paint, and a clutch scorer, and probably a couple of distance shooters, and perimeter D… You need rim protection and paint protection, and that is one thing this team doesn’t have much of.

  • Deeds130

    When he’s healthy, he’s definitely top 3. No question. But Manu’s only real flaw is his fragility. It’s almost like saying Greg Oden is a top 3 center, except that he’s always hurt. Until Manu can stay healthy for one postseason, I’d have to say Eric Gordon (also hurt) is ahead of him right now. Blair’s short, Manu’s injury prone, if only, if only.

    Not alot of SGs tho, so do Ray Allen and Chauncey Billups make the top 5, or do you go with pure scorers KMartin and Ellis? In terms of mad game, it falls off after Wade, Bryant, Gino.

  • Deeds130

    Not sold on Jennings, too inconsistent. Lowry is higher, top 7. Still think Westbrook is a lead SG, but is way better than TP right now, despite TOs. Andre Miller is forever underrated, makes other 4 guys better (unless one of them needs the ball in his hands). John Wall on a better squad would scare teams, give him 2 more seasons. Conley suprised me last postseason, TP disappointed.