El Conclusión: San Antonio Spurs 85, Orlando Magic 83

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San Antonio Spurs 85 Final
Recap | Box Score
83 Orlando Magic
Tim Duncan, C 36 MIN | 6-13 FG | 5-8 FT | 10 REB | 2 AST | 17 PTS | +1

Duncan played as well as one could expect on a back-to-back, it’s just a shame he had to play so many minutes.

Richard Jefferson, SF 38 MIN | 4-10 FG | 2-5 FT | 1 REB | 1 AST | 11 PTS | +6

Jefferson hit a clutch shot near the end of regulation and played well enough on defense to justify 38 minutes of action.

DeJuan Blair, F 17 MIN | 4-7 FG | 0-0 FT | 6 REB | 0 AST | 8 PTS | -4

Blair collected three personal fouls in 17 minutes of action, which, one assumes, accounts for his low minutes. Offensively, Blair is developing good chemistry with Tony Parker on the high screen and roll. Popovich should have given Blair more burn.

Tony Parker, PG 44 MIN | 12-23 FG | 1-1 FT | 7 REB | 9 AST | 25 PTS | +1

Tony Parker carried the Spurs in the 4th quarter. Offensively, he was a one man show. His statline says it all. Game ball to Parker.

Kawhi Leonard, SF 24 MIN | 1-4 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 2 AST | 2 PTS | -4

Kawhi Leonard only played 24 minutes, his lowest total since becoming a starter. And, all told, he probably didn’t deserve many more. It was a ho hum night for the promising rookie.

Matt Bonner, PF 20 MIN | 2-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 2 AST | 4 PTS | +6

Bonner didn’t make any threes and only grabbed 1 board in the 20 minutes—which raises the question, why did he play 20 minutes?

Daniel Green, G 38 MIN | 0-6 FG | 2-2 FT | 6 REB | 2 AST | 2 PTS | +2

Green couldn’t get anything to fall on offense, although he gave good effort on defense and boarded well. But he nearly cost the Spurs the game with an addle-brained foul in overtime and he was way out of position on a post-timeout Spurs set that resulted in a turnover.

Gary Neal, PG 22 MIN | 1-6 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 3 PTS | +3

Neal struggled all night before hitting a big shot when the Spurs needed a big shot.

Tiago Splitter, C 18 MIN | 5-7 FG | 0-0 FT | 6 REB | 0 AST | 10 PTS | -2

Tiago dominated a stretch of the 2nd quarter and was rewarded with limited playing time. I’m not sure what he could have done better to merit more playing time. But I’d like to know.

Cory Joseph, G 9 MIN | 1-3 FG | 1-2 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 3 PTS | +1

He played well enough to allow Parker a chance to rest in the first half. Under normal circumstances, Joseph would be in Austin. Good marks for his effort.

Five Things We Saw

  1. Popovich is the most passionate person in the Spurs organization right now. I’m not sure if that’s a good thing.
  2. The Spurs looked tired all night but finally grabbed a road victory. It wasn’t a conversation starting victory, but I’ll take it.
  3. Comical moment: Tim Duncan and Dwight Howard simultaneously complaining to refs about an out of bounds call. They’re both wonderful players, but it would be nice to see each player spend less time talking to the officials.
  4. Parker was visibly upset with Jefferson during two overtime possessions. It’s unclear what Jefferson did, but Parker barked at him more than once.
  5. Danny Green played 38 minutes. Popovich preferred him to Kawhi Leonard this game.
  • http://twitter.com/jimmy_frich James Frichner

    So give it to me straight…did we at least play good defense or was Orlando just missing shots? And is the fact that we finally won on the road outweighed by the still apparent poor play?

  • Water Buffalo

    Pop is the most visibly passionate person …the effort Tim and Tony put into this game show a deep and abiding passion for playing the game and competing to their limits. . .there were a couple of times late in the fourth and overtime when Timmy looked like he needed a walker to get up the court and get ready for the next play.

  • Bry

    Road win, against a good playoff team. We’ll take it. Anybody in the NBA would take it.

  • Anonymous

    I’m just glad they finally got a road victory. I’m sure it was weighing on them that they hadn’t had one yet. A little confidence boost never hurt anyone.

    I’d like to see Splitter get some more PT. He’s really looking good out there. But Pop has always had a knack for sitting players AFTER they’ve done good.

    I think lost in this early season is the great play of TP, assist wise. That has been a lot of people’s complaints about him. Can TP get a little love?

  • Ch500634

    Even though I agree that the passion could be there more often from the players, I think the guys played as hard as they could tonight. And James, I’m not going to say the Magic didn’t miss any shots, but the defense was BETTER than it has been since Manu went down, (just my opinion). Also, this game could’ve been more in our favor if we had done what we normally, hit open 3′s. We didn’t do that today, but lets keep the home heat going against Sacramento and, I’m proud to say we won a road game before we lost a home one.

  • Deeds130

    I hope James Anderson is working on his shooting form, it’s got to bother him sitting when NONE of the other young guys ahead of him in the rotation are hitting shots. Even though we are crowded at the wing, I want to see this guy get out if the doghouse, and deliver for us.

  • Water Buffalo

    Road wins: as of tonight, only two teams in the Western Conference had more than two road wins: OKC at 6-1 and Denver at 4-3. Maybe it’s not so surprising the Spurs have struggled to win on the road this season without Manu and T.J. and with all the young players getting valuable learning time.

  • grego

    It was a combination of tired legs and defense. Spurs played with energy at times. They did solid on rotating and causing a decent amount of 24-second shot clock violations or near violations. 

  • grego

    And both OKC and Denver have experienced youth. Coincidence, I think not. 

  • grego

    C- for RJ, yet, he had a clutch shot (made a key free throw also forcing Orlando to need a 3 to win) and “played enough defense…” Shouldn’t be rated higher then? 

  • grego

    This is where lack of practice is killing JA. With practice, he could show more and earn time. Now, it’s going to be Pop riding the hot guy as long as he can. I think TJ Ford made it even tougher for Pop to take more chances with the wings. I think Anderson will be fine, once the schedule lightens up. 

  • TDzilla!

    “Parker was visibly upset with Jefferson during two overtime possessions.
    It’s unclear what Jefferson did, but Parker barked at him more than
    once.”

    He wanted to do another alley-oop but RJ wasn’t prepared.

  • grego

    Bonner played decent while he was in the game. He had to good heads up plays like the put back before the 24-shot clock violation and also a weakside basket when the defense lost track. Also assisted 2 baskets. Nothing spectacular, but he had a decent game where he didn’t hurt the Spurs, even though he didn’t hit his 3s.  

  • Bob

    He hurt the Spurs by taking minutes from Splitter.

  • paul

    when we win, i don’t really care what bonner is doing.  all i know is he won’t help us in the playoffs as already evidenced by past playoff runs.  they close out on him too fast in the playoffs.  his value now to us is he helps out by playing minutes and allowing other players to rest for a bit.  other than that, i don’t see his value anymore since he doesn’t seem to be hitting his 3s.  

  • paul

    when we win, i don’t really care what bonner is doing.  all i know is he won’t help us in the playoffs as already evidenced by past playoff runs.  they close out on him too fast in the playoffs.  his value now to us is he helps out by playing minutes and allowing other players to rest for a bit.  other than that, i don’t see his value anymore since he doesn’t seem to be hitting his 3s.  

  • paul

    james anderson needs to get in the game.  his ceiling is SO MUCH HIGHER than danny green’s as a basketball player.  if he doesn’t get in the games, playoff time will come around and anderson’s lack of game experience will be further reason for james to not really play another playoffs.  

  • paul

    james anderson needs to get in the game.  his ceiling is SO MUCH HIGHER than danny green’s as a basketball player.  if he doesn’t get in the games, playoff time will come around and anderson’s lack of game experience will be further reason for james to not really play another playoffs.  

  • grego

    The things that have been killing Splitter have been fouls, deserved or not (definitely not against Miami). Many times, Bonner is paired with Duncan or Splitter, but usually it is Blair vs. Bonner (to avoid playing them together in the rotations). 

  • grego

    Especially this season, those minutes during the season are key. As for hitting shots, not many are right now, at least not consistently. 

  • grego

    If he’s not playing during the season, he’s not going to see post season time. And lets assume that both Ford and Manu are back, so minutes will be even tighter at the wings. 

    Without practices and very little camp/preseason, if you don’t come out strong or struggle, this is going to happen. Unless he can somehow get out of the slump in limited practice time and game time, he’s going to have troubles. 

    Without Manu and now Ford, Spurs need to ride hot hands until the team can become more balanced. 

  • DorieStreet

    I know Tony had the hot hand and was carrying the team, but he ignored Splitter a few times when Tiago was open or had a mismatch down low. 

  • Bry

    There’s something more to it than minutes. Anderson has had a training camp and this is his second year with the team, yet Green and Leonard are getting heavy minutes in front of him. With Manu and Ford out, and Neal dealing with injuries himself, Pop has had all the reason in the world to play Anderson, who is finally a 2-guard that isn’t undersized. Pop isn’t playing him for a particular reason. I don’t know what it is, but when people are getting really heavy minutes at the wing positions and they are on the back-end of a road game, Pop has decided he doesn’t like what Anderson brings. Looking at the minutes played since Manu and Ford went out is starting to appear ominous for Anderson’s future. That would be really disappointing.

  • Anonymous

    I would have liked to give half of those minutes to Splitter because he’s better served getting them right now. Bonner better off getting  spot minutes to throw up some bricks. Some will fall some won’t but we all now after all these years he’s a streaky shooter so letting him shoot in spot minutes is the way to go. I hope Pop isn’t thinking he can develop him into a defensive monster by giving him these long stretches  minutes. He needs to abandon the fact that Bonner can’t help in the respect. He can try his hardest on defense but for a few minutes a game IMOP.

  • Anonymous

    Saw that. I was pulling my hairs, there’s no need for that.

  • Anonymous

    Everybody gets them. Happens. Some days good some days bad.

  • grego

    That’s the thing though. Pop sometimes does weird things. Take Splitter for instance. He could have played more minutes against Orlando. 

    Last year, he could have played more, even though he didn’t have camp and wasn’t healthy (and then got injured again midseason as he got time). 

    I have noticed with Pop that he likes to stay with what works, or at least stick to consistency even if it doesn’t fully work. An example is Bonner/Blair last year once he made the Dyess move to the starting lineup. 

    Spurs depth at the wings is still strong, compared to say, the PG position, where with TJ out and Manu (2 guard PG), he has to give Joseph time. However, he tried to ride out Neal/Green as much as possible. 

    The Kings game should be a good measure of what Pop is thinking, more than an Orlando game, that Pop clearly wanted to win. 

  • grego

    Yep, but it has stolen some good minutes from Tiago. Now, as for Orlando game, I’m not fully sure, why Pop didn’t give him a little bit more time. 

  • TD BestEVER

    Parker is SELFISH……I have been saying this for years……Why else would he lead the team in FGA’s the past few years despite only being the 3rd best SCORER on the team.     He took 23 shots last night to score 25 points.  I promise you, everybody on our team not named Joseph/Anderson would score 25 points on 23 attempts.

  • Tyler

    If Parker were a selfish gunner, he wouldn’t be playing for Pop. If we know one thing, if you don’t fit into the team concept, you aren’t around very long.

    Parker left points on the table last night; he simply missed open shots. If he shot reasonably well the 1st half, we’d be talking about a 40 point game.

    And what’s wrong with having a high % shooter like TP shooting more often? Simple math and a little logic would say that more often than not, it’s probably a decent strategy.

  • Bushka

    25 points and 9 assists and still you ring the selfish bell.

    Sure he missed the roll man sometimes.  The guy is not perfect but good god he played 44 mins he must have been ratshit by the end of it.

  • Bushka

    He also shot better than 50% from the field as PG and 1 of 1 from the line while.

    Which of the other guys on our team could have handled the ball and created his own shot while still scoring over 50% vs Dwight?  Dejaun?  Splitter? Kawai? Don’t make me laugh.

  • Anonymous

    The thing is…if he weren’t “selfish” in the 4th period….the Spurs lose this game.  I don’t know what you want.  He has proven over and over and over in this stint sans Ginobili that he is the most consistent scorer on the team.  Would you want him to divert in time of need to giving the ball up to a less effective scorer?

    This has been Tony’s M.O. all season.  Look to get others involved during the game (and then if need be)…take over the scoring load at the end of a game.

    Says quite a bit, in an impressive way, about Tony to be able to change in mid stride during a game to being able to “take over the game”.

    It clearly shows just how UNSELFISH he really is.

  • Bushka

    Im on this as well.  Bonners D is not from lack of effort or knowledge of the System.  He gives Grade A effort and plays the system near perfectly.  He just does not have the athletic ability to get it done.

    He gets too many minutes still.  For me Redhead is Pops biggest weakness as a coach.  He needs to cut bait on him sooner when he is not producing.
    For whatever reason I honestly don’t think he’ll ever manage Bonners minutes properly.
    Is ther eanyone here that thinks he will?

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t get to see the game.  Was able to listen to the start of the 4th through the mid of 4th.  And the game ended in a below 90 score for either team at the end of OT.

    Sounds like both teams were out of sorts offensively more so than a definitive defensive game by either.  But it comes to no surprise how some of these games will turn out this season.

    Will there ever be a clear idea of what any of these teams will likely be like when playoffs arrive?

    I guess it’s best to enjoy the season for what it is.  Every other team is going through the same sort of (odd) experiences this season.  So I’ll enjoy the wins for when they happen, but still hope they can arrange things that will improve this team for the future.  At least (at this point) the Spurs are putting up W’s more so than L’s with who they have.  Who would of thought?

  • Bankshot21

    Danny Green commits bonehead fouls. Easily avoidable fouls. TD looks great to me but of course I’m bias. Lol. TP is beginning to hold down the fort. When Manu comes back we are contenders. Yes. I said CONTENDERS.

  • Bushka

    Honestly he hammers TP regardless of how he plays.  Nothings going to changes his mind.

  • Bushka

    Im with you on Green, but the more he plays the better he’ll get at it.  I still dont’ see us as contenders.
    For me its not Manu coming back, it’s how well the younger guys on the squad adapt into the spurs defensive schemes.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t need to think it.  It’s proven to be the case.  Again…like you…not sure why.

    Just like him stubbornly going with the Bonner/Blair combo last year.  EVERYBODY (from die hard fan to indifferent by stander) saw it wasn’t a good combination…but Pop continued to role with it.

    Who knows.

  • Anonymous

    Anybody interested in Michael Beasley? T-Wolves want to unload  him by trade deadline. T-Wolves willing to let him go for practically anybody. He’s got a sprained right foot recently but the article says Spurs or Mavs are potential destinations for him.

  • paul

    if pop thinks danny green is going to help us in the playoffs, i think thats going to end poorly.

  • Anonymous

    What article?  Link?   Practically anybody?

    If it’s for “practically anybody” R.J. for Beasley and Randolph works.

  • TD BestEVER

    You guys seem to know very little about basketball…….23FGA to get 25 points IS NOT A GOOD THING, PERIOD!   A few weeks back there was an article on here about Russell Westbrooke learning to be a pass 1st PG.  Well TP isn’t and shoots the ball ALMOST as much as Westbrooke and scores less. 

  • TD BestEVER

    He gets a TON of picks set for him SO he DOESN’T CREATE HIS OWN SHOT!.   Not most of the time. 

  • TD BestEVER

    TP doesn’t get fouled enough to be a VOLUME SHOOTER and he can’t hit 3′s.   Look at the NBA.  The best Volume shooters either can hit the 3, or get fouled a ton and get a lot of FTA’s.   TP does neither. 

  • Bankshot21

    If we can play Beasley at the 4 spot I would welcome it. I love Kawhi as our 3 of the future.

  • Titletown99030507d

    Bleacher Report – Trade deadline. Sorry not an actual source but a blog. But still an opinion from them.

  • DorieStreet

    Seems like Pop is trying to ease the pressure on Bonner to make his shots by being able to do more on the court.

  • Titletown99030507d

    I do like when he scores in the clutch but he sometimes forces the issue and thinks he has to score for everyone. Still like his effort.

  • DorieStreet

    You don’t remember all the careless turnovers Tony and Manu committed their first season?
    Green played in 20 games as a rookie with Cleveland (’09-10) and only 8 games last year as a Spur.
    No summer league or training camp before this season’s late start. The will and the effort are there–better decision-making will come with more time on the court.