June 29, 7:35 am — by Andrew A. McNeill
Check out Kawhi Leonard’s measurements in a more, um, straightforward way.
I’m sold.Â Way to go R.C. and Pop!
Good news keep on coming about this guy. For those outside the US who can’t see the video, look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8FKTYuKUuI&NR=1
Â I wonder the angle on Tim Duncan’s shot is.
Now Spurs can use : Manu, JA, KL, TD, TS together, pretty big lineup
I watched Leonard and his team (San Diego State) in their conference tournament and the NCAAs.
Now if Da’ Sean Butler can make it all the way back from his collegiate injury–this may be the begininng of a period in this franchise where the 3/SF postition is the strongest it has been in a more than a decade.
Has anyone heard anything on Butler’s status?
I’m not aware of anything. (Someone knows if he is on facebook or twitters?)
WithÂ his new opportunity with the Spurs, he may be one of thoseÂ athletes that is eating and sleeping rehab 24/7–maybe withÂ Spurs staff in SA or personal trainersÂ at home or back at WVU.
Anybody know DJB’s wingspan? Dayum the two of them on the court at the same time for rebounding purposes? Wow that’s a lot of wingspan and arms flying around under the rim. Â
The years of Elliot comes to mind.
You mean Marion’s odd ball form.
Blair was measured at the pre-draft combine with a 7’2″ wingspan.
There’s no reason this kid won’t be good.Â He was projected in many mock drafts to go around the 7-8th pick range.Â He’s a lottery talent the likes of which we’ve not seen in a while.Â He was 4th in the nation in double doubles and he’s still just a kid.Â He has the raw athleticism, physical ability, and motor to be a very good player.Â He needs coaching and time on the floor (I’m looking squarely at you Pop with the last one).
Freak of nature for sure.Â We’ll see how it translates to the NBA where 98% of these guys are freaks of nature.Â Blake Griffin ring a bell?
Nice video of Leonard. We will see how his game translates ti the NBA
Da’ Sean Butler said he was good to go back on June 15.I really hope this kid has the heart and the drive everyone talks about.
If he does he is another one of those infamous spurs stories.
I’m sure he’ll have plenty of heart and drive…Ironic it would be though that the kid would be ready to get back to work just a couple of weeks before a looming lockout.
Hopefully the comparisons between him and Shawn Marion will not include his shooting!
Let’s start the nickname list now.Â I’m sure most of you can come up with something better than I but, here are a few.
Â Kawhi-tastic; Kawhi-t’good;Â Kawhi 5;Â Kawhi “D-man” Leonard;Â Captain Kawhi
imagine how his rebounds would be if we took out his ACLs
Kawhi “Mitts” Leonard
RC “Bargin Basement” Buford
If you don’t mind me saying so, Dorie, after the comments you’ve made about European players like Bertans and Hanga, I don’t understand why you’re so interested in Butler when, realistically, he’s no surer of a thing and he won’t help us any sooner. Even before the injury, Butler was a so-so first round prospect at best. He’s big, showed a lot of heart and leadership, scored alright, rebounded pretty well, and handled pressure situations extremely well. But he wasn’t very athletic, would’ve struggled to guard quick 2s and 3s, and had aÂ shot that wasÂ inconsistent at best. And that was BEFORE a catastrophic knee injury, of the sort that normally robs a player of athleticism and quickness permanently (as well as confidence). That’s why he was available.Â
The most likely scenario for Butler is something similar to Randy Livingston, although more of a shooter and less of a passer. He’s a nice guy, great to have in the locker room, and it’s a tragic story. But you’re probably not going to put him on the floor in crunch time in a playoff series. Ever.Â And if Butler does turn out to be a productive Spur it will be every bit as far down the line as Davis Bertans. Besides, we’ve already got two young players in Anderson and Neal who fill similar roles, have more potential, and are already proven at this level.Â I’m just not seeing it.
Great points, Tim.
I liked the trade a lot but i’m starting to think that the Spurs could have done something better with George Hill that fills a better need. Perfect example: George Hill for Taj Gibson straight up. Oh well, in other news Nene opts out of his contract if it means anything. Erazem Lorbek signs an extension with his current team.
who runs the point?
You mean his T-Rex shot?
Manu, he is a playmaker
He’s on twitter..
Randy Livingston? Â Do you mean Shaun Livingston?
I like Mitts, very apt.
Yeah Gibson would have been great to put into aÂ Spurs uniform.Â Bad news re: Lorbek.Â I had this fantasy that we dumped Bonner for a backup PG and we brought Lorbek over and he gave us a good 5-10 minutes per game.Â
i think blake translated pretty well.
Who’s Randy Livingston?
WhatÂ comments didÂ I say about Bertans and Hanga?
I’m interested in Butler because is on the team–now. I didn’t make any pronouncements, rev up a hyped rant about his game, or said he would make a huge (any) impact for the Spurs. If fact, other than state he would be on the roster—I have said nothing more about Da’ Sean Butler. AndÂ I will do the same for Bertans and Hanga–whenÂ they arrive in Vegas for summer leagueÂ (2013 perhaps?)Â
When Butler was signed, I don’t recall you or any of the 48MOH crew being negative like Tim in Surrey, so what gives.
If you made any opinions during that time and I missed it–please repost.
He’s 27 and 6’11″; bring him over and see what he’s got. 5-10 minutes in the C position.
What does he do best– rebound, block shots, defends the paint, score?
With hands that big…Kawhi might want to take up competitive swimming.Â He’s got to earn money somehow now that a lock out is in place.
No, I meant RandyÂ Livingston. Look him up. He was a big-time talent, a top five high school player who was rated as roughly equivalent to Jason KiddÂ as a PG. (Deron Williams reminds me a lot of him.) Livingston went to LSU, just after Shaq left, and was projected as a lottery pick. But he had a similar injury to Butler’s and missed most of the next couple of years. He was drafted anyway, but bounced in and out of the league. He did have a long career but without that previous level of athleticism he just couldn’t cut it physically. HeÂ is actually a head coach in the NBDL even though I’m sure he’s not yet 40. It just goes to show, though, that the kind of knee injury Butler suffered is often a career-changing one–andÂ he wasn’t exactly a lottery pick BEFORE the injury.
I’m not trying to rag on Butler. He was a good pickup because, if nothing else, he can contribute with his leadership, the way Jacque Vaughan did. I just think it’s going to be tough for him to come back from that injury.
I just said he brought up some good points pertaining to Butler and his knee injury.
Agreed. His athleticism was always what held him back. Even before the knee injury, he would have struggled to guard. Now? I wouldn’t count in it.
But having said that, I’m rooting for the guy. Seems like a class acts, someone who works hard. And after playing for Huggins, you know he can take criticism.
I like the Randy Livingston comparison. Solid role player. Good leader. A guy who was always respected by hisÂ teammates.Â
For those who don’t know much about Kawhi, here are a couple of links. The first is to a little feature on ESPN’s College Basketball Nation blog about his farewell to San Diego State:Â
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/32561/san-diego-state-thanks-kawhi-leonardAnd it includes a link to this highlight video, which you might enjoy:
Thanks for the links.
I watched them along with some other Youtube videos about him. I feeling the Spurs have themselves a winner in this guy.
He says it’s completely healed and fine and he’s busting his ass in the weight room and what not. You mean he’s going to have a hard time with the mental aspect of the injury. Well you and I aren’t him so how can you pass judgement on his character and will. To me even if he makes the roster it could give a character/motivational boost to those on the roster already for the next season. Pop ain’t no dummy he likes to interject people with character and desire on his team in hopes it will be noticed by the others on the team. Pop’s angle – mind game.
I wasn’t so much talking about the mental aspects, and I hope I wasn’t passing judgment on him. I think Andrew’s point is not so much that he’s sure Butler will have a problem with it as much as he was pointing out that it is often a very big obstacle to overcome. If I were a betting man, I’d lay odds that Butler WON’T have confidence issues. He has a lot of heart and, besides, athleticism was never his main source of strength.
What I was referring to is the loss of explosive power in the knee joint. With an injury like his, that’s almost always a long-term problem. Therapists and trainers can help him strengthen the muscles and restore the balance in his joint and in his whole body (which is a crucial factor in efficiency). But that joint will likely never be as compact and springy as it was before. So it’s likely (not a sure thing, but likely) that he’ll lose quickness and power. Doesn’t mean that he can’t overcome it. I just wanted everyone to realize that this kid has a lot to overcome. I hope he can do it, but we probably shouldn’t pencil him into the roster just yet.
You make a great point, though, about his potential to contribute beyond what he does on the floor. He’s an inspiring guy by all accounts, which is why I think he’s a great addition.
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