Matt Bonner: Jonesing for a sandwich

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If you don’t watch The Basketball Jones on a regular basis, you’re missing out. Recently, The Jones’ Tas Melas took some time to join sandwich enthusiast, and recently re-signed Spur, Matt Bonner in the kitchen to create a masterpiece of the deli.

Or just a sandwich with chips. Have a look-see:

He’s really got a great ability to spread the mayo and open things up for the other ingredients.

  • zainn

    he’s such a beast

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  • ThatBigGuy

    Bonner is like horseradish: when used sparingly, it really accentuates the rest of the sammich.

  • DieHardSpur

    ThatBigGuy
    July 16th, 2010 at 9:24 am Bonner is like horseradish: when used sparingly, it really accentuates the rest of the sammich

    +50

  • Kevin

    Sorry, ThatBigGuy, but you can’t beat the last line of the post.

    +10000

  • mikrobass3

    crazy left-field question: any chance of signing oberto on the cheap for this year?

  • Firebrand

    Kettle chips best chips ever……. Everyone needs to get off Bonners back anyone that makes a sandwich that looks that good is fine by me . Im still dreaming of hearing Sean Elliott say “San Antonio has blasted off to their 5th championship behind a game winning three from Matty Bonner” ….. but I digress.

  • Firebrand

    @mikrobass3

  • Firebrand

    @mikrobass3

    oops didn’t realize pressing tab does not work in these windows . What I was going to say is that according to NBA.com Fab is probably not going to be rejoining the Wizards this year , they haven’t resigned him yet, and they where using him very sparingly….. so I would say we can get Fab on the cheap but the real question is does pop or R.C. really think we need him ?

  • ITGuy

    “He’s really got a great ability to spread the mayo and open things up for the other ingredients”

    Best description of Bonner ever!!!

    Go Spurs Go!!

  • duaneofly

    Firebrand, if our championship hopes come down to Bonner hitting a game winning three, we’re screwed. Matt Bonner fans can try to defend what he does in the regular season, but the past two post seasons, he has sucked big time, and there’s no denying that.
    I’d rather have Timmy take a last second three, at least he’s made the only one he ever took in the playoffs! Lol.

  • DieHardSpur

    @ duaneofly

    Good point.

    Timmy shoots 100% on game winning 3’s in the playoffs….

    Thats a guy I would really like to acquire this offseason!

  • John Sears

    forever united crowned kings you peter (he’s from concord, too!)

  • Firebrand

    @duaneofly

    Point given . It was more of a daydream inspired by lunch time hunger and low blood sugar lol . His lack of post season success is a big big problem but in the end I think that just cements his role as a guy that will come of the bench and do some dirty work pick up some fouls and hit a 3 now and again . He has been clutch shooting the three before although never in post season when it really counts , I am not ready to give up on him yet tho. For future reference please never remind me of that 3 again … all I remember is how that arena reeked of fish afterwards. I still hate Derek Fisher! He could build a church a school and an orphanage in San Antonio and I would burn them all down ……this is the extant of my sports hate for the guy . Okay maybe not burn them down but I would have to spray paint FISHER SUX in bold on them.

  • Firebrand

    I did a double take when I saw that story . They sold for 450 million dollars . This is a team that has seen the playoffs once in the past what decade. Consider my mind officially and irreparably boggled . Wonder how much the Spurs would go for ?

  • DieHardSpur

    I read somewhere that the Spurs were the #3 best franchise only bested by LAKERS and BOSTON. I also read that we have been the most profitable in the last decade – moving our worth from 175M ish to upwards of 500M… Thats a pretty damn good return on your investment if you ask me…

  • Eric

    Who taught that guy how to open a bag of chips?

  • duaneofly

    Yeah DieHardSpur I believe that was a Hollinger article. He ranked championships, wins, and intangibles such as having a fun team etc. My only problem with that article is the Suns got intangible points for being a fun team to watch, but the Spurs didn’t get any for being a playoff team every year, a contender almost every year, and the best run organization in the NBA. To me, as a fan, I appreciate that a lot.
    Not that those points would have pushed us past Boston for #2, but still, it’s deserving :)

    & Firebrand, what does Timmy hitting a last second three vs the Suns have to do with Derek Fisher?

  • Firebrand

    @duaneofly

    I was thinking of that fall away shot when he was leaning to the left that he hit against the lakers and then fisher came back with his .4 shot . I thought that was a three Timmy took.. my bad I just looked at the vid he hit it from the top of the key well shy of a three pointer. thanks for pointing that out.

  • dcatkd

    @Firebrand, I believe the 3 by timmy was against the suns in the first round game 1 of the 2005 (maybe wrong year?) playoffs with almost no time left.

  • http://48minutesofhell.com Andrew A. McNeill

    @dcatkd

    2008.

  • Firebrand

    for sure I watched it while I was at youtube lol . I love this site I am watching 50 best dunks by the best damn sport show .

  • dcatkd

    @Andrew

    Thank you, seen too many big post season moments with Mr. Fundamental to remember when they all happened, lol.

  • SpursfanSteve

    Firebrand, you cannot be both a Spurs fan and a dunk fan. You must choose, one or the other.

  • http://48minutesofhell.com Andrew A. McNeill

    @SpursfanSteve

    Gold star for you.

  • DieHardSpur

    SPURSFANSTEVE –

    +10

    I was actually thinking of putting together some pie graphs… title?

    DUNKING – The Downfall of the Spurs Dynasty

  • Firebrand

    ROFL . SpursfanSteve this is just not true. David Robinson anyone not to mention Manu has some sick dunks , Timmy was called Dunkin Duncan for the first part of his career and I can still remember seeing Steve Smith in game on a breakaway move the ball around his body in a display of showmanship before dunking it down.

  • duaneofly

    I remember a lot of people on this site, me included, getting excited when RJ dunked at the beginning of last season. It’s been a while since we’ve seen a Spur do that!
    Except when Pops Mensu-Bonsu (or however you spell it) slammed down a monster dunk and ruined his career as a Spur lol.

  • Jim Henderson

    Apparently we need a light post on Bonner to distract us from the potential tragedy of his recent re-signing. I guess people just don’t understand that nobody’s going to deliberately pay someone 16 mil. over 4 years to eat popcorn on the bench. No, Bonner is penciled into the regular rotation, and with it, our “D” remains too weak to truly challenge. ALL players in the rotation need to be good to very good defenders for us to get back over the hump. Bonner’s projected role is unlikely to do that (and even despite TP’s great offense, he will also have to consistently commit more on the defensive end for us to have a shot a title).

  • Hobson13

    Maybe Bonner can make those sandwiches for Blair, Duncan, Dyess, and Splitter since they’ll be tired and hungry from playing all those minutes.

  • duaneofly

    Lol @ Hobson13.

  • Jim Henderson

    A sandwich-maker for 4 million a year. Anyone hiring?

  • ThatBigGuy

    Maybe Bonner’s pulling double duty as stretch 4 and nutritionist? That’s only $2 million a year for each occupation. Come on, he’s working 2 jobs!

  • SpursfanSteve

    Jim, we get it. You don’t think he’s worth it. No need to beat it to death. Alot of us disagree, because statistics (plus minus being the most often cited) generally support that he is at WORST an average role player and at best, a solid contributor who makes the team better. His defense is not as bad as most people say it is. His athleticism is horrible, but he makes smart plays and knows his limitations. In 15 minutes a game, you arent going to find a better role player. People keep saying he completely disappeared in the playoffs, but i believe he was one of 3 Spurs to make a 3 during the Phoenix series- Manu and George being the others. Aside from fouling Dirk, he didnt play poorly in this years playoffs, even if he didnt shoot as well as he did in the regular season.

    He’s far from a waste of space, and far from a waste of money at 4 mil per year. People forget that during the regular season, before breaking his hand, he actually carried the team to a few wins.

    Furthermore, he’s the best big on the roster to pair with Duncan, because Matty (in spite of his lack of athleticism) can actually keep up with guys like Lamar Odom. So when the Lakers trot out Bynum/Odom or Gasol/Odom, Bonner becomes even more competent.

    And, on top of that, what other bigs can we sign who know our system inside and out? None, because we have no cap space.

    Do i want Bonner to get more than 15 minutes a game? No. Do i want to have to rely on Bonner to make clutch shots? No. Do i want him to be one of our 3 best players? No. All i want him to do is come in, make smart plays, shoot open shots, help Tiago learn the system, and run for president.

  • Mr. Anonymous

    Bonner’s defense is improving.

    Remember a regular season game last year where he did a nice job on Zach Randolph.

  • Hobson13

    Jim Henderson
    July 16th, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    “A sandwich-maker for 4 million a year. Anyone hiring?”

    Hey, those “quarter meter” sandwiches looked pretty good. Plus you have no idea how much Dejuan eats. He may very well earn that $4mil just making sandwiches alone.

    Mr. Anonymous
    July 16th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
    “Bonner’s defense is improving.
    Remember a regular season game last year where he did a nice job on Zach Randolph.”

    Those were the toughest 3 minutes Bonner ever played…

  • Hobson13

    Ok, all the Matt Bonner jokes aside. Has anyone heard ANY new tidbits regarding RJ or James Jones. Rumor was the RJ was going to sign this week. Doesn’t look like it will happen now. Geez things are quiet. A bit too quiet.

  • J2

    James Jones is a decent backup at the 3 position. That still leaves the starting 3 position open with the remaining cap space likely used to sign James, and maybe a veteran role player at PG.

    I think the Spurs braintrust would like to trade some players including Parker for a starter at the 3. The trouble is, most starting 3’s are either so good that they are untouchable on the other team (e.g. Gerald Wallace) or not good enough to part with Parker in a deal (e.g. Matt Barnes on a sign-and-trade).

    If Blair is able to develop a mid-range jumper, we might see him play some at the 3. The Spurs brain trust seems to think he is quick enough to guard the more athletic 3’s in the league.

    The Spurs have managed to put together a fine collection of young talent for the future after Ginobili and Duncan have stopped playing (Parker, Hill, Blair, Splitter, Anderson, Gee, Jerrells, Hairston, Temple), but if they want to contend for another championship during Duncan’s tenure with the team, they don’t yet have the right mix.

  • tradeTP

    Steve: “His athleticism is horrible, but he makes smart plays and knows his limitations”

    Really? How about getting beat on fast breaks, not stopping the ball, not playing help defense and throwing the ball to the other team, which he did too many times to count last year.

    Matt can keep up with who? Bullshit. He played 82 more minutes than Blair during the playoffs and REBOUNDED LESS, BLKED LESS, STOLE LESS, TO MORE, SHOT A WORSE FG%. Bonner is arguably the worst big we have on our team

    Bonner is a dipshit who sucks. Period. Its comical that instead of writing about something this guy does in his “profession” we get lame food blogs.

    Check out the stats. Defensively Bonner is the worst big according to drating. Even worse than Ian. Orating hes worse than Blair AND MCDYESS and he is supposed to be our offensive big… He averages a higher TO percent than our PG. AND… are you ready for this??? AND…….

    ONLY HAD A BETTER PER during the playoffs this year (HIS CAREER BEST PLAYOFF PERFORMANCE) than Bogans and Mason.

    This guy is trash. He is a piece of crap on the floor and 10 minutes is too much. HE SUCKS. Anyone who has any basic concept of the game of basketball can use the eye test on him. Then you have the stats. What more do you need?

  • Jim Henderson

    SpursfanSteve
    July 16th, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    “Do i want Bonner to get more than 15 minutes a game? No. Do i want to have to rely on Bonner to make clutch shots? No. Do i want him to be one of our 3 best players? No. All i want him to do is come in, make smart plays, shoot open shots, help Tiago learn the system, and run for president.”

    Well, that isn’t worth 4 million per, even if we were owned by Bill Gates, and even in this inflated FA market. The fact is (and you don’t dispute this, with good reason), Bonner is nowhere near as good of a defender as we could have gotten to take his spot as a late-rotation player at the 3, 4, and/or 5 spot. No team that I’m aware of goes deeper than 10 in the regular rotation. Here’s our roster, in approximate order of regular season minutes played per game:

    (1) Parker – 32
    (2) RJ – 30
    (3) Hill – 30
    (4) Manu – 28
    (5) Duncan – 28
    (6) Splitter – 24
    (7) Blair – 24
    (8) Jones? > MLE or LLE – 18
    (9) McDyess > or likely Bonner – 14
    (10) Bonner > or likely McDyess – 12
    (11) Anderson (maybe not, but probably more spotty minutes) – 6 to 8
    (12) Temple (maybe not, but probably more spotty minutes) – 6 to 8

    * 4 & 5 spot minutes add up to more than 48 because Duncan & McDyess should sit out several games.

    We NEED a player like Jones, if that’s the best we can get, and he needs to have a solid role (perimeter “D” & 3-point shooting – hopefully he can hit a “clutch” shot – he’s been in the playoffs 5 times and shot 40% from three – Bonner – 32% in 4 playoffs). If you notice though, the best case scenario for keeping Bonner’s minutes down is to project him to be in the 9th or 10th slot in the rotation. Why not have a defensive/shot-blocking big in that slot? Our defense was ranked 9th last year; during our 4 title years we ranked 1st, 3rd, 1st, & 1st. We also blocked 6.3 shots per game during our title years; last year 4.3 bpg. Also, Bonner tends not to shoot as well when his minutes are too limited. In 2006-07 & 2007-08 Bonner’s mpg. averaged around 12, and he shot just 35% from behind the arc. In his other 4 years combined, he averaged 20.6 mpg., and shot 42% from three. Bonner needs some time to develop a shooting rhythm to maximize his limited benefit to a team, and 12-14 mpg. just isn’t going to cut it. He’s not Vinnie the “Microwave” Johnson. And that’s why I don’t buy that his minutes will be restricted to the 10-12 area (other than his 4 mil. per year salary).

    The fact is, in my view, that 9th or 10th spot in the rotation would have been better served with a high-energy, shot-blocking defender in the 4/5 rotation, making half the money of Bonner. If we get a guy like Jones for the SF rotation, and someone like J. Anthony or L. Amundson for the 4/5 (and all of these appear to be realistic options in the 2 million per range), we’d be better defensively, and theoretically have enough three point shooting to “spread the floor” as well (precluding the need to sign Bonner at all, and saving 2 mil. per year):

    Jones – 40%
    Hill – 40%
    Manu – 38%
    Anderson – 37%

    And hopefully RJ can get his back up closer to where it was with the Bucks in 2008-09 (40%).

    Don’t think they’ll make the Roster:

    Gee
    Jerrells

    P.S. This bit about having trouble learning the system is overblown. Blair didn’t have a big trouble learning the “system”, and he was just 20 years old, and undersized. If anything, RJ had more problems adapting to his role as a 4th option in a more slow-placed offense (not a good fit for him based on his history), than in “learning” the system. Trust me, it’s not THAT complicated.

    Mr. Anonymous
    July 16th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    “Bonner’s defense is improving.

    Remember a regular season game last year where he did a nice job on Zach Randolph.”

    You point out ONE isolated instance (which by the way, I don’t remember) and you proclaim that Bonner’s “D is improving”?! Come on, let’s get real. Bonner’s 30 years old. His “D” is not improving in any meaningful way at this point.

    Hobson13
    July 16th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    “He may very well earn that $4mil just making sandwiches alone.”

    Even with DeJuan & Shaq, those sandwiches would still have to be laced with gold to make Bonner worth it.

    “Has anyone heard ANY new tidbits regarding RJ or James Jones.”

    No, I haven’t heard anything about it in the past few days.

  • Jim Henderson

    J2
    July 16th, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    “If Blair is able to develop a mid-range jumper, we might see him play some at the 3.”

    No. Blair will NEVER be a SF, even part-time.

    “The Spurs brain trust seems to think he is quick enough to guard the more athletic 3′s in the league.”

    Where did you come up with that?!

  • ThatBigGuy

    @ TradeTP

    “Bonner is a dipshit who sucks. Period.”

    Congrats. You just made yourself look like a complete ass over the 11th man on the roster. Classy, real classy.

  • duaneofly

    Joel Anthony signed with the Heat according to ESPN.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5382899

  • lvmainman

    @ duaneofly,

    Jim Henderson still believes the Spurs have a shot at Joel Anthony, even though I tried to enlighten him.

    lvmainman
    July 11th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    “@ Jim Henderson,

    No way the Heat don’t match a LLE offer to Joel Anthony, seeing how they’re short players.”

    You don’t know that. Miami has to be VERY careful with how they spend their money now, and the LLE value is about twice the average vet minimum. We would definitely put pressure on them by putting the LLE on the table for Anthony. I’m not so sure they would match. Anthony is a pretty one-dimensional player, and the Heat have a lot of different needs to fill right now.

  • lvmainman

    Above paragraph is attributed to:
    Jim Henderson
    July 11th, 2010 at 2:15 am

  • Hoopster

    Anyone on here sticking up for our FO resigning Bonner and trying to convince the rest of us how valuable Bonner is really needs to stop hitting the pipe! The only evidence you need to see how much of a liability he is can watch the painful Phoenix sweep of our Spurs last season. In particular how TERRIBLE Bonner was on ‘D’ in that series. Channing Frye acted like he was not even being covered when Bonner was on him as well as getting caught in no mans land and leaving good shooters open for 3’s. He got killed. Anyone that does not believe he will get more than 10 min per game is smoking some stuff I would like to have.
    Then there is the comment that he can keep up with Odom! REALLY! You obviously are hitting the crack pipe a little too often.
    But I digress, we are stuck with that turd burglar for 4 more years and I will continue to cringe everytime he is on the floor.

  • Jim Henderson

    duaneofly
    July 16th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    “Joel Anthony signed with the Heat according to ESPN.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5382899

    Yeah, finally, weeks into free agency, now that Miami has a clearer picture on their monetary committments & their projected rotation. The point is, nobody knew for sure what the Heat’s intention was with Joel Anthony over the past 2 1/2 weeks of free agency. I doubt Riles was on the Bat-Phone with Pop keeping him abreast of his true intentions. Anthony’s a guy that has been in the league for 3 years and has never made more that 825k. He has improved a little in the last 3 years, but he still has a very one dimensional game. As a result, it was not unreasonable to suspect that he could be available for 2 to 2.4 million per year (LLE to rest of MLE), given Miami’s tight-rope of fielding a competitive team with the cap space they had left. And the fact is, Miami may not have wanted to commit to Anthony as recently as a week ago because they had limited funds to assemble a full roster around the HUGE three, who together, are scheduled to collect 43.2 million in their first year out of a 58 million dollar team salary cap limit (75% of their TEAM salary cap gone on three players, ten to go). We could have at least forced their hand with an offer, and waited to see what happened. But we didn’t.

    Estimates, 1st year salaries:

    James – 14.5
    Bosh – 14.5
    Wade – 14.2
    Miller – 4.3 (a huge steal because apparently he and James are lovers)
    Haslem – 3.5 (also a steal because he just happens to be one of the least greedy & biggest homebodies in the entire NBA)
    Anthony – 3.2 (over-paid because the pool of centers available in free agency this year was weak, and apparently he’s a good “character” guy).
    Ilgauskas* – 1.5 – 2.5* (another LeBron “buddy” that fell for the “title hype”, and thus agreed to sign well under market value)
    Chalmers – .9

    * don’t think his contract has been finalized, but at about the 2.5 million mark (for the 7th signed player) Miami is down to minimum contracts for the remaining SIX roster spots, which of course MUST be filled (two low cost draft picks that are unlikely to make their roster and/or rotation).

    Anyway, their are still other possibilities out their that we might have been able to offer either the LLE or the remainder from the MLE. And actually, I would prefer Amundson for the 5th big role because he’s a better rebounder, and more scrappy for loose balls. Plus, he’s still ranked right behind Camby in shot-blocking per 48 minutes. But again, he’s a very limited player in a number of respects, and is clearly not a strong offensive performer, particularly in the half-court set. Thus, his salary ceiling should not be very high. He’s played three years in the league, and has never made more than 855k. He had very similar numbers this past year compared to the year previous, and at age 27 his upside is extremely limited. I believe Amundson is still available, and unlike Anthony, he’s an unrestricted free agent. What his ceiling is nobody really knows, but it can’t be much north of 2.4 million, and we’ll never know unless we make an offer.

    The point is, there likely are/were options available to try and upgrade this team from more of a DEFENSIVE perspective. I don’t believe we were simply “stuck” with Bonner. We made the deliberate and safe choice to preserve the stretch 4 offensive concept by bringing back a Spurs vet that is really at best a mediocre player. In my view, it’s too much status quo to get us over the hump for another title in the next couple years. We’ll see.

    lvmainman
    July 16th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    “Jim Henderson still believes the Spurs have a shot at Joel Anthony, even though I tried to enlighten him.”

    You tried to enlighten me?! No, you made an assumption based on I don’t know what, took a guess, and got lucky. By the way, Mr. “Age of Reason”, why did the Heat take so long to sign Anthony if he was such a shoe-in? Any guesses?

  • Hobson13

    Man, the free agents keep on getting snapped up while we do very little, at least it so appears. I do hope RJ is not screwing with us. To me, it seems like the Spurs and RJ are playing a game of chicken. If RJ walks and we get a trade exception we are screwed. There are no suitable Free Agent starting SF’s available for us at this point (outside of maybe Barnes which is highly unlikely). However, by the same token, the longer he waits, the less money other teams have to throw at him. Presumably, RJ is a $6-7$mil/year player and yet all players of that caliber are signed. From what I can tell, either the Spurs or RJ are going to get the shaft.

    The best case scenario I can see for our team is this: We resign RJ for a reasonable contract. We then use the remainder of the MLE to sign James Jones. We use the LLE to sign Louis Amundson. These last two guys would form a really nice bench. A good SF backup who can hit the 3 and a nice PF/C who will make the hustle plays and bring physical defense would really round out our summer. It’s a long shot for all three to happen, but we at least need a serviceable SF.

    I’m beginning to wonder if we are content to let James Gist and Malik Hairston fight for the backup SF spot or if we will have them both play SF and kiss RJ goodbye (I really hope that doesn’t happen). It would certainly be a cheap solution, but the SF position would be the weakest link on our team BY FAR…in fact that is almost too frightening to consider. I hope we hear some word regarding our Small Forwards by the beginning of next week.

  • Jim Henderson

    Hobson13
    July 16th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    “The best case scenario I can see for our team is this: We resign RJ for a reasonable contract. We then use the remainder of the MLE to sign James Jones. We use the LLE to sign Louis Amundson. These last two guys would form a really nice bench. A good SF backup who can hit the 3 and a nice PF/C who will make the hustle plays and bring physical defense would really round out our summer. It’s a long shot for all three to happen, but we at least need a serviceable SF.”

    That might give us a chance, but what’s the hold-up? Have we still not decided how we’re going to finish filling out our roster? Are we really just going to let RJ walk? If not, what’s the hold-up? The Clippers still have some space, and could still use a SF you know. Are we really going to just let our development league players man the SF spot? Are we really not still looking for another proven, veteran shooter/defender? Is this team as currently constructed really a title contender? Have we given it our best shot, and now we’re done?

    On a side note, here’s an very interesting story that looks beneath the surface of the LeBron fiasco:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-heatfreeagency071610

  • charles

    i think the spurs are wating on “the barnes decision”
    and if the cavs get barnes ( i don’t know, maybe) then we got a chance with butler..if not ,then we are going to sign jones