Portland Trailblazers 98, San Antonio Spurs 96: A perfect storm of errors

by Jesse Blanchard

You know how Kobe Bryant can take so many bad shots at the end of games, but the ones he hits are so spectacular people tend to forget the many more he misses, while the heroics are forever etched in their minds? Well this was the complete opposite of that.

There was quite a bit of positive to take from this Spurs game, especially in the fourth quarter, that no one will remember because the San Antonio Spurs botched things so spectacularly bad down the stretch.

Call it the anti-Kobe clutch theory. Sean Elliott called it a perfect storm of errors. That’s what it took for the Spurs string of misery to continue in Portland even after outshooting the Blazers, almost drawing even on the boards, and holding LaMarcus Aldridge to 14 points.

Three turnovers in the last minute, all leading to points quick points for the Blazers. The final one with less than a second left on a botched inbounds pass that setup a brilliant alley-oop pass from Andre Miller to Nicolas Batum that, again, displayed terrible execution from the Spurs.

The team is now 0-2 without Tim Duncan-in which both losses the Spurs blew a fourth quarter lead-and as predicted, it’s in the little things that the Spurs have missed him most.

Perhaps the most glaring example came with less than a second left last night, with the Spurs looking for a quick shot to avoid overtime. After not playing all night, Steve Novak was the trigger man on an inbounds play that found Manu Ginobili streaking towards the basket.

Only the pass was too far out of Ginobili’s reach, sailing out of bounds with no time coming off the clock. Most nights, Duncan would be the one making that pass.

Another theme without Duncan has been free throws, and their opponents ability to take them. If there is one category the Spurs remain elite in, it’s in the ability to defend competently without fouling. Much of that is the ability of Duncan to protect the rim and secure the rebound without fouling.

And while the Spurs did well not to allow 39 free throw attempts as they did in Denver, they got into the penalty early in Portland and found themselves at the line enough times down the stretch to prevent the Spurs from pulling away.

Finally, Duncan provides the lone post threat, and while it’s not utilized very often anymore, when it is it’s still a calming enough presence to settle down a Spurs offense that found itself, in stretches, stagnating amidst a lack of ball movement and turnovers.

It’s easier for the nearly 7-foot Duncan to navigate the sea of arms and legs that is the Blazers than it is for Tony Parker (eight turnovers) or Manu Ginobili (five turnovers).

There is clutch putting up the highlights, and there is clutch doing all the little things. Over the last two games Duncan’s value in the clutch has become more apparent.

A few quick (and not so quick) thoughts:

  • Following a loss like this, much of the talk is going to be centered on the Spurs rookie center. Tiago Splitter had another solid game producing 11 points and seven rebounds in 23 minutes while guarding Aldridge as well as can be expected.Without going to the tape, I can only recall one instance where Aldridge completely demolished Splitter. The rest of the time Splitter was able to move his feet and contest each shot.
  • While it seemed that Splitter earned more than those 23 minutes, especially down the stretch, Popovich generally has his reasons. Frustrating as it might be to many of you, with Pop such decisions are usually made around a bigger picture that people find hard to contemplate when they live game-to-game.It’s less about drinking the Kool-Aid or blindly following the team’s decisions, and more about trusting a front office and coach that has won four NBA championships and squeezed more out of this roster than could reasonably expected.

    After all, had the Spurs given into such knee-jerk reactions this team would feature George Hill as its starting point guard, Ian Mahinmi as its starting center, and would be in no position to weather these late losses while Tim Duncan recovers properly.

  • It was nice to see Bonner break out of his shooting funk. Contrary to popular belief, the answer to playing long teams like Portland isn’t always to try and match “big” for big. These Spurs don’t have the explosive athletes to rise up over such defenders, they rely on spacing and movement.As nice as it would be to pick up another David Robinson, it’s just not happening with the resources the Spurs have. Any traditional big man you could pick up, that the Spurs could afford, would not be good enough to close the gap between front lines like Portland or Los Angeles. Best to find other areas in which to make up the difference.

    Bonner will be important in a secondary role.

  • On the surface Manu Ginobili had an excellent game, and I’m not about to criticize that final turnover because so far as I’m concerned, it’s a fluke. The three-point barrage that has been Ginobili for most of this season (eight attempts!) has been acceptable, and he has remained efficient, because he often buttresses his three-point shooting with frequent trips to the free throw line.Only two free throw attempts for Manu last night.

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  • SpurINhouston

    This game was frustrating to say the least. Early foul trouble in regulation time + too many impulsive errors in OT = overtime loss. On the bright side, it wasn’t as painful to watch as our last match-up w/ Portland.

  • td4life

    2 seasons ago I called for acquiring Camby + Odom… Last season, it was Camby + Ty Thomas… Over the summer I was asking for picking up T Chandler. Once we resigned Bonner and RJ, I ran out of ideas, and don’t see any posibilites on the horizon.

    Blair isn’t gonna be much of an asset if you want a team to chase titles, and our depth at guard isn’t the answer.

    I say trade everybody and start the full-tilt rebuild as soon as possible. Acquire draft picks and hope for some talented true bigs that Pop can develop before he retires.

    These Spurs are built for the regular season, and have no realistic chance at a title. At the beginning of the year, I said our only hope was a historic performance from TD come playoffs, which is so far from likely that I consider the window C-LO-S-E-D.

    What’s worse, the Bynum-Gasol Lakers can be on their way to 7 consecutive titles, unless Oden gets healthy, or the Thunder continue to develop and add pieces, or the Bulls do the same. (But the Spurs aren’t getting out of the West for the forseeable future.)

  • L-Man

    I love Pop, but the isolation at the end resembled the Heat going one on one and not moving the ball. (like we did to get the lead). Then putting Novak in cold off of the bench to make the key inbound? Then he released a helium balloon into the crowd for our 3rd turnover in 35 seconds? Pop gets a lot of the blame along with turnovers by our two best players. Just one game, but it stung. The exact opposite feeling I had a week ago Friday with the win over the Mavericks.

  • L-Man

    However, I still like our chances to win it all. The people above who are writing us off because of close losses to other good teams on the road, are ignorant. We will have home court advantage and be tough to beat here, plus we can go on the road and beat anyone. look how hard and great the Blazers and nuggets had to play just to squeak out wins. look at it from the other team’s perspective for a change. No one wants to play the SPURS!

  • Bankshot21

    What I love most about this article Jesse is you are specifically speaking to certain posters without saying their names. Gotta love it. Lol. I am tempted to just call those specific folks out but I won’t. They will read it themselves and get defensive. Then we will all know who it is about. Duncan most definitely makes that inbounds pass. Duncan definitely protects the paint enough to have the Blazers second guess that game winning play. Go Spurs Go. What’s happening now is benefiting us. Trust me.

  • McShane

    I don’t understand why EVERY late game situation has to be solved by Ginobili! Everyone knows Gino can close a game out! They should let someone else do it from time to time - like Neal or Parker. It’s too easy to predict what the Spurs will do on the final play - the Celtics knew it, the Nuggets knew it, and so did the Blazers.

  • SFTX

    George Hill never looked like he was built for the PG position. Mahinmi was far too raw to ever play meaningful minutes without fouling out. Both of those players were young and inexperienced and neither had accomplished anything noteworthy on a professional level.

    I’m not sure how either of those comparisons work in regard to Splitter. But if you do insist on making a comparison with George Hill, I remember arguing that Popovich had everyting under control when he refused to give Hill postseason minutes during his rookie season. Popovich had declared that Hill just “wasn’t ready yet.” Even with Manu out against Dallas, Pop was stubborn and refused to change his stance until the end of the series, which by then was too late. He later publicly admitted being wrong and wished he had played Hill more to start the series.

    Pop is a great coach, but he’s not infallible. It’s great to keep pounding the rock but that doesn’t mean you have to keep using the same tools.

  • Bruno

    @McShane are u talk about the same player what made 2 three pointers with 2 minutes left?When Spurs are by 4, PARKER lose the ball and they get easy basket. But the fault isn’t of Parker or Ginobili, clearly if u need blame somebody, blame Pop, he go Small after timeout and give up another game

  • mundanemundin

    Jesse,

    Your last bullet, I think Manu has been trying to get to the line early but is getting frustrated with not getting the calls so he falls back on the long distance shots? Plus I think fatigue is a factor as well. He’s playing a lot lately. Sometimes the mind says yes but the legs say no. I wouldn’t mind him getting a DNP to conserve him for the playoffs. Or maybe I’m totally out to lunch.

    The losses definitely sting but I agree with those who see the positives in them. We had a chance in both games w/o TD, Tiago looks like he’s finally acclimating etc.

  • Mike

    Great article Jesse!! 48MOH any chance of a new 4 Down podcast coming soon?

  • Titletown99030507d

    It’s a different time and a different situation for the FO. I don’t buy what they’re selling. You can not go Bonner/Blair a whole 4th quarter especially if the game is close with a capable Splitter on the bench that’s twice in two games this has happened and twice they lost. People you have to ask the question sooner or later are the rotations adequate this late in the game? Not of late.

  • Mark B

    You can’t win ‘em all, and hopefully this will help the reserves see the value of playing every possession. With Duncan out, it falls to them to execute, instead of counting on Duncan to do it every time. Mistakes happen, the best thing to do it to hope you learn from the mistakes moving forward. Plus we gave the Portland fans one of the most exciting endings of this season.

    Many positives, Tiago played well and his endurance seems to be improving. Spurs still have to be favored to wrap up HCA in the west, but even if they don’t, with Duncan coming back, I still think we go a long way in the playoffs. Having Tiago more prepared for that is a good thing.

  • Titletown99030507d

    @Bankshot21,

    Duncan’s not playing. Well then in that case Tiago should had thrown the inbound. He played last night and is a good passer and has good court awareness.

    Where’s the logic behind all this. I don’t buy what Pop’s selling. Period! Just like he screwed up not playing Hill in the playoffs last year he’s starting to melt down a little earlier. I don’t care what anyone says there’s plenty of folks here that agree.

  • Mark B

    Not just the reserves, of course, Parker and Ginobili both had critical mistakes late in that game. But even great pros occasionally make bad plays, so I’m not going to get too upset about it. It’s always disappointing to lose a winnable game, but sometimes you just do.

  • Mark B

    I think on that last play, Pop made the right call having a 3 point shooter throw the inbounds pass. If he was uncovered, he just had enough time to pop inbounds, catch a tipback and pop a shot. It didn’t work out, but completely missing the inbounds and not running any time off the clock was such an unlikely outcome that I’m sure it wasnt’ seriously considered by Pop.

  • http://48minutesofhell broc

    I live in Portland and am a huge Spurs fan. I went to the game last night. I thought the difference in the game was staying with the 4 wing and Blair combo. Even though Blair was defending well I feel we should have come back with splitter and Dice with somewhere between 3 and 5 minutes to go. Also that Tony turnover with 30 seconds to go has to be one of the worst I have ever seen. We are on a two game losing streak without TD. We should all be somewhat happy that with out our rock we have lost to two playoff teams by a total of 5 points and had the lead in both games. Get off the ledge Spurs fans we are going to be fine. We may not be Champs this year but we are going to be a tough out. It is about all we can ask for. Look at how we all felt this time last year.

  • Titletown99030507d

    I don’t understand why we have to go small ball. Why can’t we go big with your best shooters through most of the game. I think its time Manu come off the bench not because of his play, but the rest he can be getting playing less minutes that way if Pop insists he be the game winner at least he would have gas in the tank allowing his legs to take him to the completion of the play.
    Also losing these two games at their place doesn’t mean we’re suddenly the worst team in the league. The home team should win their games and being that close with out Duncan takes the sting out of it.
    The important thing is how you use your roster and the adjustments you make to have a chance at winning a game. Win or Lose make the right adjustments.

  • Titletown99030507d

    @Mark B,

    That’s not happening in 0.9 sec. We wouldn’t get a free pass like Derek Fischer.

  • Titletown99030507d

    @broc,

    I agree, there’s some truth in that. Yes a rested Splitter and Dyess coming in at 3-5 minutes left in the game for the B boys would have made a difference. The defensive or offensive rebounding would have sealed it for us. And yes I did see Bonner and Blair struggle for rebounds late in the game.
    Pop needs to make Timmy, Splitter, and Dyess the focus of our front court and let Bonner and Blair get backup minutes. Bonner can rip off a few 3′s in those minutes and Blair can get his rebounds in those backup minutes as well. Blair’s dunks are entertaining but those one or two dunks aren’t going to win you games. Pop needs to focus what he really wants out of his guys because this is not the beginning of the season anymore. He now has new strengths to consider and new failures to address.

  • TD = Best EVER

    @ Bankshot21

    “What I love most about this article Jesse is you are specifically speaking to certain posters without saying their names. Gotta love it. Lol. I am tempted to just call those specific folks out but I won’t. They will read it themselves and get defensive.”

    What I love is how every one keeps bringing up the 4 titles and the FO pedigree as if those things alone can lace up some old school TD Adidas and make this title push for us. Everything this FO has done in the past was done far differently then what they are doing now. So to say we have 4 titles, yes you would be right, but our 4 titles came with Defense and not the Offense system we have now. So whatever POP has done in the past, It’s his 1st time trying to do it this(Offensively) way. So he gets no slack, and the idea that we couln’t afford another quality big is just as ludicrous. We all read how RC said he turned down all offers, well how do you know what we can afford if no one tries. We weren’t even mentioned in the trades rumors, and there were people out there available for little to nothing. Most teams just wanted a draft pick and young prospect.

    @ Mark B

    “I think on that last play, Pop made the right call having a 3 point shooter throw the inbounds pass. If he was uncovered, he just had enough time to pop inbounds, catch a tipback and pop a shot.”

    With 0.9 seconds even the tip back shot wouldn’t have made it in time……. You may not even have time to take a dribble in that time frame so it was a true catch and shot scenario. I would have had Novak catching and shooting(what he does best) instead of passing(we can all agree, he doesn’t have Manu passing ability). We have several players who can catch a ball and get off a good look in under a second. Neal, Novak, Dice, Manu, even TP can throw one up with some quickness. These are the players that should have been out there for the final offensive play. Splitter/Bonner(both shoot it pretty slowly) were basically NON-threats.

    @ broc

    “We may not be Champs this year but we are going to be a tough out. It is about all we can ask for. Look at how we all felt this time last year.”

    Sorry not buying it…… last year at this time we were firing on all cylinders. We were getting into shape and I thought we were gonna give LA a run for the West. So this year given all the things that has gone right for us, the exact opposite of last year, there’s no excuse why we can’t finally catch up to LA…..

  • Colin

    Although people are disappointed with the last 2 games. There is more to play fellas. Anyone remember how the Lakers finished last season? Anyone?

    We don’t need to be beating teams like scorched earth at the end of the REGULAR SEASON to say we are ready for the playoffs! This team is too seasoned and too focused to let these games get in their head come the first round.

    I share all of the frustration and anger most of you feel with a loss like that.

    But say we go up 2-0 in the first round, will anyone remember these games like they freakin’ matter? This game will have to be forgotten. I can guarantee you Novak won’t be throwing the ball in anymore.

    …….actually yeah, I bet a few of you will call on a game like this for future criticism.

  • Colin

    By the way…….a very well written piece by the author. Good summary and perspective.

  • Mark B

    I’m pretty sure the tipback was the call, otherwise, why have Novak throwing in the ball. If you have a player flash right in front of Novak, tip it back and he pops it up immediately, 0.9 seconds is enough, although it’s tight. Maybe I’m giving Pop too much credit here, but there’s no reason to have Novak throwing in the ball unless that was one of the options.

  • TD = Best EVER

    And this is just a quick update on a player that was available….

    Since Keven Love has been out the last 2 games, Anthony Randolph has been starting PF for Minn.

    Thur. - 31/11/3 on 14-20 FGM/FGA Vs Dallas
    Fri. - 24/15/2 on 9/16 FGM/FGA Vs OKC

    2 Elite title contending teams on back to back nights…….

    This guy was worth every penny/pick that Minn gave up to get him and SA should have beaten them to it or at least tried to get in on the bidding. Mark my words, he will be a top 10 big man in this league in the next 2-4 years. He is still ONLY 21 years old and is ONLY getting paid 2 million dollars a year. The best place to find Star potential isn’t the way we have been trying to do it lately……. Like others have said, it’s been a long time since we have drafted Manu and we are still waiting on the next future face of the franchise to emerge. It’s almost impossible to find those players after the top 15 in any draft and we are barley in the top 25 each year. The Best place to look for star potential, is on other teams benches…… There are players every year that simply need to be traded into a better situation in get things going again…..

  • elektronika18

    My first post ever. Die-Spurs fan relocated to Portland from San Antonio, and was at the game last night (wearing my Manu jersey :-) ). This game broke my heart because it was so EASILY winnable if either Dice and/or Splitter had played starting at the 4-6 minute mark in the 4th quarter (even a friend with me at the game who is a huge Blazers fan agreed). I love and respect Pop, but for the first time I’m bothered by his decision-making in this game. I want very badly to ask him why, in the absence of Timmy, neither Dice nor Splitter came into the game at a time in the 4th when the game could have so easily been secured with a solid defensive presence. With either player in the game at mid-4th, the mistakes made by Manu and Tony could easily have been absorbed (and those nights are going to happen for both players on occasion). If we are conserving Dice, why not play Splitter? At this point in the season, he needs to be out on the court gaining valuable experience and getting in game shape. He cannot get in game shape without playing, and he is young — versus Manu, whom we are not conserving at all! If we lose Splitter before the playoffs, we still have a chance to go far with Timmy back to health. If we lose Manu, we don’t — it’s as simple as that.

    I am at a loss to explain how the Spurs repeatedly and consistently under-perform against this team. Playing devil’s advocate, I guess that Pop would feel this game ultimately doesn’t mean much in the balance if we can conserve players and since it doesn’t change the standings, but there are more intangible factors in play here than just the standings. I can tell you first-hand that we are giving the Blazers a ton of confidence that they could take us in a 7-game series — and it’s hard to argue given the Spurs play in Portland. Unfortunately, I don’t see myself paying any more hard-earned money to see the Spurs play here when they come to town (although I watch every game on League Pass) — yes, it was that discouraging. Ultimately, this game doesn’t change my feeling that Spurs are by far the better team, and that we have the capability to go far in the post-season. But it still broke my heart.

  • chromao

    @Jacques (from “Advanced Scouting: San Antonio Spurs at Portland Trail Blazers” comments)

    Could not agree more with you. It was a painful loss, and I rolled over in bed for hours. I did not watch the game, and just followed the score on my iPhone. I cannot describe the bad feeling when I refreshed the screen with 0.9 to play in the game and noticed the change in the Portland score after a timeout that seemed like forever . This morning, when I watched the recap, it downed on me that it could have been even worst had I watched the game !

    In the Denver game, we played reasonably well , controlled most of the game,and lost it due to poor execution and fadigue down the stretch. This game we were in a even better position to wrap a wonderful victory on the road against a strong oponent and, due to even poorer execution and turnovers, did not score and allowed 8 points with less than 2 minutes to play! Unbelievable! It would have been better to just throw the ball full court 3 times and dare Portland to score in a half court offense.

    Some points I would like to add, just to try to get this bad taste off my mouth:

    1) These two games seems to have started a troubling trend of losing close games to bad execution in the final minutes. Remember our first thirteen defeats (NO twice, Dallas, LA Clippers, LA Lakers, New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Orlando, Miami, Memphis, Portland, Chicago). In none of them we were in control and lost due to poor execution late in the game (on the contrary, we have explored our oponents’ mistakes to win a bunch of close games). The boston game score seems close, but it was due to their poor play in the end, not ours. In the Philadelphia game we shoot poorly throughout the game. I really worry that this string of close defeats coud affect the players’ psyche from now on . Fortunately our group is veteran-laden (even Neal and Splitter cannot be considered rookies);

    2) Ginobili is one of the best closers in the game, and in this season alone has brought a number of victories with his clutch play. However , i just do not like to see him taking threes in the end of close games (see @Boston,@Philadelphia, @Denver for evidence).

    3) The only upside I coud find in these losses is that we are probably going to have to play the last games(@LA Lakers, @Phoenix) for real. I have never enjoyed the idea of giving games away towards the end of the season (for instance, it is disrespectiful to the fans that pay to see the game and the stars)

    4)having said (3), I am actually also concerned that if the lakers get close in the standards, Pop will give the 1st seed away without a hard fight . It is not a nice prospect eventually having to play 4 games out of 7 @ staples center. Not nice at all.

    5) we have a chance this week to avenge three of these losses . I cannot wait to watch the game tomorow .

    @Memphis - They have been playing very well lately (since they defeated us, actually), althoug they lost a close game to Chigado yesterday.

    Portland: no comments…a must win

    Boston: have been struggling lately,but it is a nationally televised game, and they always play well agains us. Tough game.

    6) Bill Simmons is already pitching LA Lakers x Chicago in the finals

  • SpurredOn

    Jesse - You captured it all with every one of your points. Nothing else can be added when discussing this game.

    Big picture, we saw what this franchise lacked when it did not have Manu in the ’09 playoffs. We saw the road struggles without Tony a few weeks ago. We now see the road struggles without TD. Any of these three players can carry a deep Spurs team to a low playoff seed but to win a title, or even advance by winning road games against the best competition, all three must be present.

    Anyone who is paying attention is being properly reminded of Duncan’s value in these type of one-game must win scenarios. There is no room for error, and despite errors last night, the win was lost by even more mistakes. With TD around, the lead at the end would’ve been double digits and such mistakes would not have been enough to give away victory.

  • Mike

    @chromao

    I could be wrong, but I don’t think any major writers have predicted the Spurs in the finals. Simmons’ prediction is nothing new or surprising.

  • junierizzle

    Yes the two losses sucked. But I always look at the positive.
    -They could have won both of them.
    -Nuggs and Blazers had to play amazing to win by a hair in there own building.
    -Oh and that’s right, they didn’t have their best player on the floor.
    -Splitter can defend.
    -Manu and TP are gassed by the time the final minutes come around because of no post play. They’ll be fine.

    God only knows what people would write if they lost by 20.

    I can go on and on but Jessie said it best.

    “While it seemed that Splitter earned more than those 23 minutes, especially down the stretch, Popovich generally has his reasons. Frustrating as it might be to many of you, with Pop such decisions are usually made around a bigger picture that people find hard to contemplate when they live game-to-game.It’s less about drinking the Kool-Aid or blindly following the team’s decisions, and more about trusting a front office and coach that has won four NBA championships and squeezed more out of this roster than could reasonably expected.
    After all, had the Spurs given into such knee-jerk reactions this team would feature George Hill as its starting point guard, Ian Mahinmi as its starting center, and would be in no position to weather these late losses while Tim Duncan recovers properly.”

    Relax my fellow SPURS fans. These comments are worse than after the Laker game.

    @td4life
    I hope you were being sarcastic

    “I say trade everybody and start the full-tilt rebuild as soon as possible. Acquire draft picks and hope for some talented true bigs that Pop can develop before he retires.

    These Spurs are built for the regular season, and have no realistic chance at a title. At the beginning of the year, I said our only hope was a historic performance from TD come playoffs, which is so far from likely that I consider the window C-LO-S-E-D.”

    Yeah that’s exactly what they should do after losing two road games in the final minute, while not having TD.

  • Titletown99030507d

    @Colin,

    “But say we go up 2-0 in the first round, will anyone remember these games like they freakin’ matter? This game will have to be forgotten. I can guarantee you Novak won’t be throwing the ball in anymore.”

    It’s what you do now that spills on over to the real season. If the bad coaching habits that are manifesting now are not being addressed than you will see it in the playoffs. There are two things synonymous and obvious about the loses.

    1- Pop continued to play the B boys the entire 4th quarter.
    2- Pop let a worn out Manu take the game in his hands.

    At least Tiago’s playing now. Couldn’t have said that a month ago. GSG!

  • Titletown99030507d

    @TD,

    The one that got away. But remember our FO are geniuses.

  • Titletown99030507d

    “After all, had the Spurs given into such knee-jerk reactions this team would feature George Hill as its starting point guard, Ian Mahinmi as its starting center, and would be in no position to weather these late losses while Tim Duncan recovers properly.”

    WTF? Are you frikin serious. Bad coaching dude. Plain and Simple!

  • Titletown99030507d

    Don’t sugar coat Pop’s meltdown. Put the right players when and where they’re supposed to be or you’ll see more of these loses. We are as good as ready for the playoffs at this point then.

  • Ian

    Jesse, those bullet points seem more like your personal rebuttals against some of the more negative & pessimistic comments that frequent this blog… and I couldn’t have said it better lol

    On the other hand, I heard Duncan will likely miss at least 4-5 games (so that’s 3-4 more games I presume) - does this mean he’ll be back before the playoffs for sure?

  • Titletown99030507d

    @SpurredOn,

    I guess then what your trying to convey is that Pop can’t coach without Timmy on the floor. That security blanket will be gone sooner than you think so he better get creative and fast.

  • idahospur

    After 2.5 games of no Duncan (and 2 losses by an average of 2.5 points), I am optimistic about our playoff chances if the following happens in the post-season: Duncan and/or Splitter must be on the court at ALL times. I think Splitter does the job defensively and we should be fine offensively without a major contribution from him.
    My solution (96 mins/game for 4/5):
    Start: Dice-4, Duncan-5
    Duncan: Approx. 35 mins/game
    Splitter: 20
    Dice/Blair: 15
    Bonner: 10
    Novak: 1 (just to get his name in the paper)
    We can have Duncan/Splitter in crunch time. Bonner can spread the floor for short stretches. I would even consider having Duncan-Splitter-Dice or Blair as the 3-4-5 in the Lakers series (hopefully) for short stretches.

  • Bruno

    @idahospur

    The problem is Pop don’t trust Splitter, and Spurs is paying for it.
    No minutes to Dice in your solution?

  • Titletown99030507d

    “While it seemed that Splitter earned more than those 23 minutes, especially down the stretch, Popovich generally has his reasons. Frustrating as it might be to many of you, with Pop such decisions are usually made around a bigger picture that people find hard to contemplate when they live game-to-game.It’s less about drinking the Kool-Aid or blindly following the team’s decisions, and more about trusting a front office and coach that has won four NBA championships and squeezed more out of this roster than could reasonably expected.”

    It’s 2011 not 99,03,05,07. An old Duncan, and Pop’s bigger picture of willing the B boys to all star status?
    Get real that is no picture I want in my collective thoughts. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ!
    Whatever Discount.

  • Colin

    Titletown

    Chill. You obviously didn’t read my first point in the post. That’s why I asked if anyone remembered how the Lakers went into the playoffs last year. They had some significant struggles going in………and came out with a title.

    I’m not worried. Players play, and these guys are cagey veterans who won’t let this affect them. Change it to if this were Miami or OKC I’d be worried.

    @ Chromao

    Who give a f#%k what Bill Simmons thinks?!! He is an ESPN puppet who will pick the big market favorite every time. He’s a dumbass who really likes to fancy himself as a good writer/journalist with a comedic twist but spends more time blowing himself than anything. You ever heard him talk? Listen to this guy speak one sentence and I want to throw him head first into a dumpster.

  • SpurredOn

    @Titletown99030507d - if that’s the message you took from the post then you are missing the big picture. Pop’s coaching put his team into position to win two road games without the team leader. The players made mistakes in the final :35 last night. Period.

  • doggydogworld

    @Titletown99030507d

    Bonner and Blair did not play “the entire 4th quarter”. Their on stretch together in the 2nd half time started with 2:04 left in the 3rd and the Spurs trailing 65-71. It ended with 7:20 left in the 4th and the Spurs ahead 81-77. The Spurs outscored Portland 16-6 during this stretch. Lots of things to complain about this game but playing Bonner and Blair together in the 3rd and 4th quarter is not one.

    BTW Jesse, the Spurs are 1-2 without Duncan. They beat Golden State. You could also say they beat Charlotte without him, since he only played the first few minutes.

  • TD = Best EVER

    @ Colin

    “You obviously didn’t read my first point in the post. That’s why I asked if anyone remembered how the Lakers went into the playoffs last year. They had some significant struggles going in………and came out with a title.”

    This isn’t that great of a comparison for 2 reasons……..

    The Lakers were at that point the 2 time West Defending Champs and 1 time Defending World Champs…… They can afford to slip a little when the rest if the league is chasing them……. Just as this year….. we are still chasing the Lakers no matter what our record says…….

    2 - The Lakers have MORE TALENT than we do and have had it for quite some time…. Or as soon as they got Gasol…….. We are at best the 4th or 5th most talented team in the West and probably 7th or so in the entire NBA……. With the Lakers either 1 or 2 in talent. So if they are under performing in some areas, they can just rely on Talent to get them through games and the regukar season.

    Where as the Spurs have to do ALL THE LITTLE things to win games and to get into our current seeding……

    “Who give a f#%k what Bill Simmons thinks?!! He is an ESPN puppet who will pick the big market favorite every time.”

    + 10

    I hate Simmons too…. and ya most analyst will always pick the sexy team over us and that’s fine…… As long as we still do the little things that have made us a 4-time Champion

    @SpurredOn

    “Pop’s coaching put his team into position to win two road games without the team leader. The players made mistakes in the final :35 last night. Period.”

    Sorry, but it’s a 48 min game and POP checked out around 47 min and change When he basically decided to give the ball to Manu for 3 possessions in a row w/o calling any plays. We could have ran Neal off a screen easy for a good look, or got the ball to Manu on the move or anything instead of 1on1 ball for the final 2-3 minutes…….

    If the players have to play the ENTIRE 48 min, than the coach has to stay engaged and do some coaching the final minutes as well……. The final 2 plays were BAD COACHING plain and simple….. the personal was all wrong on both Offense and Defense and the play call was also just BAD. even if Manu catches it running away from the basket he would have had trouble turning and getting off a shot. Manu doesn’t have all that quick of a trigger on his jumper, so we would have needed to hit him going to the basket with something so he could shot a floater which he releases a lot faster….

  • SAinSLC

    @Titletown99030507d & @ TD=BE,

    Let me start by saying I appreciate your passion for the Spurs and desire to see the best team out there possible. We have that in common. I understand your frustration with this loss, but to say Pop is a terrible coach for asking a professional basketball player to throw a simple chest-pass (a staple of 5-yr old basketball camp) to someone 10 feet away seems a little emotional to me. Steve Novak is a professional athlete who was asked to perform a simple task, something well within his ability to perform. He wasn’t asked to shut down LBJ or DWade or Kobe, nor did Pop try to make him a major threat in the post or some other ludicrous scenario. He was put in position to successfully execute something he is perfectly capable of doing. I don’t see how that is bad coaching.

    To me bad coaching is asking your players to do things outside of their skill-set, or forcing players to fit a system, talents be damned as opposed to developing a system where their skill-sets are highlighted to give the team the best chance at victory. That even means becoming more offensively focused - even though I think we’d all like to be that lockdown defensive team of the past. We just don’t have the same horses we did.

    Clearly it’s subjective, but I prefer to focus on the positives of the team as opposed to the negatives and ‘what-ifs’ since, as Malcom Forbes stated, “Failure is success if we learn from it.” I trust that the lessons learned by the team in these last two games, especially by those who typically don’t have a shot at those minutes, will eventually equal success.

  • Rafael

    @SAinSLC

    To me bad coaching is keep your worst defensive frontcourt when u are winning by 10 after a timeout.

  • TD = Best EVER

    @ SAinSLC

    “I understand your frustration with this loss, but to say Pop is a terrible coach for asking a professional basketball player to throw a simple chest-pass (a staple of 5-yr old basketball camp) to someone 10 feet away seems a little emotional to me. Steve Novak is a professional athlete who was asked to perform a simple task, something well within his ability to perform.”

    If you watch the replay again you will see it’s FAR from a simple chest pass to Manu 10 ft away. 1st a regular chest pass would have never made it to Manu because Marcus Camby was guarding Novak and the inbound pass. Which means a player has to make a pass over the top of a 7ft Camby with very long arms to a running Manu in a pressure situation. Sorry there aren’t many 5 year olds, 5th graders or Freshmen in College who are gonna make that pass consistently……. That pass needed to get up over Camby but then down again for Manu to catch on the ground so he could turn and shoot…… So it needed a lot of “touch” on it…. which is something a lot of players do not have unless they practice inbound passes a lot of are used to having the ball in their hands to make passes and plays…….

  • TD = Best EVER

    Even better notice who took the ball out for Portland….. it wasn’t LA, or Wes Matthews, or Batum or a SUB even………….. It was ANDRE MILLER………… there BEST BALL HANDLER & PLAYMAKER……..

    Now why would coach Nate McMillen do this……..

    A - He wants to prove how smart of a coach he is and how he can win with anybody

    B - He is simply putting the ball in the hands of his BEST passer/playmaker and hoping that he can make a pass to a player who is very adept at catching alley-oops.

    Both inbound passes were being guarded by big/long bigmen….. both were loob passes over the top of the bigmen. One was thrown by a seasoned veteran play-maker/passer and the other by someone who is far from being even a good play-maker/passer.

    Which one sounds like a coach giving his team the BEST CHANCE he could give…….

  • spursgermany

    Some of you guys just do not seem to realize THAT
    The Spurs FO and the Spurs teams have won 4 championships, BECAUSE WE CAN PRODUCE ON D-DAYS PLAYOFFS and i am very sure Blazers and Nuggets will be no match for the Spurs in a 7 SERIES GAMES IF we just held on HCA, not even Lakers or Mavs; and concerning our execution the assistants coaches and POP himself have seen & noticed these NON-SPURS uncharacteristicall plays(mistakes)
    In God We trust IN God i trust AND IN POP!!
    So i am just looking forward to the 7th game of WCF at the AT&T Center vs. who ever will come out because the harder the win the the sweeter the victory
    GOD BLESS YOU ALL

  • Clearlybehind

    SAinSLC - I am not certain if anybody is calling Pop a terrible coach. His past 2 game plans are being criticized here. The closing plays have been terrible both the calls and execution. We have had similar flubs before but we were winning and we had time before playoffs began. So I guess the fans/posters were less worried.

    Even if I go along with your comments on the Novak inbounding, which I do not, I think TP being on the court defending on Portland’s final possession is questionable. We have other longer guys. And I promise this is not hinsight 20/20. Even I could smell the alley oop coming [ and I am not a genius :) ]

  • Titletown99030507d

    @Spurredon,

    “@Titletown99030507d – if that’s the message you took from the post then you are missing the big picture. Pop’s coaching put his team into position to win two road games without the team leader. The players made mistakes in the final :35 last night. Period.”

    He also put them in position to lose the game and succeeded. Who you kidding? I saw the game man. No need to put players on the court incapable of pulling the trigger ( a tired Manu). Small ball loses again. Shit if I’m going to see that I’d take my chances instead calling more plays for the big man the last 3-5 minutes of the game. You people just have to trust in Tiago. Ye of little faith.

  • Titletown99030507d

    @doggy,

    Keep playing those B boys in crunch time and you’ll see more of these loses. PERIOD!

  • Titletown99030507d

    @SAinSLC,

    I have no beef with Novak its Pop! Hell if I was getting paid to play Pop could tell me to chunk it in the toliet and I would have done it. But the fact remains Pop would have still been the one to instruct me to chunk it in the toilet. Get it now?
    It was a stupid play. How can Manu facing up on the left side get a deep pass and turn around and aim at the rim and get decent shot off in 0.9 sec. The refs only do that for Fisher. Just bad coaching man. He is getting older you know.

  • Titletown99030507d

    @spursgermany,

    You sure like to make hard on yourself. 7 games? I’d like to get the coaching and personnel down before we get to the playoffs. You know wipe off the dust and get rid of the unnecessary dead weight and get her done sooner than 7.

  • Titletown99030507d

    By the way on Portlands “that’s the way you do it in 0.9 sec Pop” play Tiago was on Aldridge and Manu was on Batum. Manu screwed up by letting his man go and he knows it. If you saw his post game interview he didn’t know how to answer that one. He was just one tired dude you could tell. The telltale sign was before that play started he was already pulling on Batum’s jersey that was a dead give away he wasn’t going to be able to keep up with that guy.
    And Tiago was too far over to the side with Aldridge to do any thing. What a move on Portlands coach to draw that up. It just took half our size away to defend the rim. Where was our other big?

  • Bruno

    @Rafael
    March 26th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    “To me bad coaching is keep your worst defensive frontcourt when u are winning by 10 after a timeout.”

    100% agree, Pop give up(?) last 2 games with that BS,playing BB in 4th and Macdyess/Splitter in bench.

  • rj

    not really understanding the second bullet. did spiltter get benched? honestly i missed the game.

    knowing splitter can stay infront of athletic bigs (as i always predicted) is a huge positive for us. i feel good that we were competitive in this game, however mounting losses are dangerous considering l.a.’s hot streak.

    i guess the argument is pop going with novak to the inbounds rather than splitter…… splitter is known for his passing ability.

    these growing pains are positive. splitter is showing his value and we will need him come playoff time. these games are just proving that.

  • Chipp

    Here’s the issue with Navak making that pass at the end of the game. And Pop should know all of this.

    Pop calls the play specifically for Ginobli. Novak thinks he’s in the dog house but now gets a single chance to make Pop proud. No way is he looking to pass it anywhere but to Manu, who’s clearly not open. Who knows, maybe Ginoboli is flopping trying to get a call and isn’t where he’s supposed to be. Maybe Novak flubs the pass. In any case, if Novak, who hasn’t played a second and is ice cold, passes to someone else, then he potentially gets reamed by Pop. A no win for him. TD doesn’t have these issues, and he can tell Pop where to stuff it if he decides differently.

    And Jesse, it’s OK now and then to point out Pop blew it. I understand you may be afraid he won’t like you. I’ll bet he tells himself he blew it, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it. He’s still a good coach. We all know it.

  • jechalker74

    I agree with junierizzle…

    While the two losses sting I think that you will see this experience pay dividends in the playoffs.

    The things that look promising to me are:

    1. Splitter getting the opportunity to compete against potential playoff matchups

    2. Novak is getting the opportunity to contribute (albeit making some critical mistakes) it is better to learn them in the regular season than in the playoffs

    3. The team without Timmy has the potential to still win in the playoffs. In both games the team held the lead before letting the lead slip away in the last 6-8 minutes of each game (which is getting the little things right, making the difference).

    Chins up… this is a mini version of the annual rodeo road trip. It has come later than usual and without one of the big three. But you will find the lessons learnt will make a difference in the playoffs.

    Go Spurs!

  • Ryan

    First of all, I think alot of you need to stop pretending to be armchair quarterbacks on both Pop or the players.

    The fact of the matter is this… this game was exactly what Sean Elliot said, and what the title of the article was… a perfect storm of errors. Pop screwed up by doing this, Manu didn’t do that, he was tired, it was small ball, Tiago wasn’t in… who gives a crap.

    Trying to blame one individual for this is like trying to figure out which knife killed Caeser. You can’t… there’s too many errors to count on too many people and when you add it all up… it’s still just an L.

    As SAinSLC mention, failure is success if you learn something from it.. that’s all we can ask for after something like this. All of you know just as well as I do that 9 times out of 10 Novak makes that pass… 9 times out of 10 Manu doesn’t dribble the ball off his foot.. 9 times out of 10 we don’t make boneheaded mistakes or bad coaching decisions. This game was it was.. learn from it, get better, move on… period.

  • Colin

    TD = Best EVER

    Good argument. I think the comparison I made does hold water though. Yes, the Lakers are more talented, but you are putting TOO much emphasis on their talent. They do fear the Spurs.

    The Lakers would be the first to tell you what they did last year doesn’t mean shit this year.

    You are right, WE have to do more things right in order to win against them, but they can be had with our current roster.

    I could also make the same comparison of Boston going 25-25 for their last 50 games last year and proceeding to push their luck all the way to game 7 of the finals.

    I wouldn’t consider Boston any more “talented” than San Antonio.

  • Bankshot21

    Ryan and SAinSLC

    Great post guys.

  • TheRealKman

    Nice article but it does little to ease the frustration I have with the Spurs late game blunders. We are near the end of the season. These types of mistakes should not be happening. That’s what the Rodeo trip was suppose fix. Teams such as the Lakers, Thunder, Bulls and Heat are playing at championship level after going threw their on bouts of misfortunes and mishaps. The Spurs are going in the other direction.

  • Titletown99030507d

    @rj,

    Splitter had a damn good game he played 10 minutes in the first and it showed, 5 minutes in the second still playing solid. Both times when he left the court we were up. Splitter then starts the 3rd and continues to play solid with only 2 fouls and comes out at the 4:35 minute mark and is never seen again till 0.9 sec left in the game. Blair is the lone big at the 7:20 minute mark until 30.2 seconds left in the game. In that stretch Blair failed on some key put backs and key rebounds. Batum, Miller, and Aldridge scored on him to keep it close then the wheels came off in the last minute. These are the facts. DVR don’t lie. Take it and digest it. It was ugly. I still say if your up 10 points and your lone big has been out on the floor that long by himself I say pull him because he wasn’t dominating by any means and let a fresh core of bigs go in and try to defend whatever comes into the lane. I don’t get it. It’s almost the same thing that happened in the Denver game in regards to Splitter being out that long.

  • lvmainman

    @ TD = Best Ever,

    2 phenomenal posts, 1 - Anthony Randolph available for peanuts and avg 23 pts and 13 rebs in 2 games (something Blair is not doing)

    2 - Comparing both coaches with .9 calling a play and who they chose to inbound with.

    Why not use Jefferson for a lob at the rim off a backpick in the future?

    I’m concerned that these past 2 losses will cost the Spurs home court advantage for the playoffs, because I can’t see the Fakers losing any games for the rest of the season (especially the Spurs matchup if Splitter is benched again). So the Spurs need to go 6-4 to end the season. I can’t see it, unless Duncan comes back faster than expected.

  • Titletown99030507d

    @Chipp,

    Yes Pop is still a good coach but I’m very confused as to why he blew the last 2 games with some odd rotations.

  • Titletown99030507d

    @jechalker74,

    Good point, We are getting a taste of the Playoffs now as the season winds down. Better to play these teams now than the crappy ones. It will only make us wiser and stronger and hopefully Pop can get some value out these experiences on both ends player personnel and coaching.

  • Titletown99030507d

    @Ryan,

    What else are we going to write about? GO SPURS GO?

  • Mark B


    •Teams such as the Lakers, Thunder, Bulls and Heat are playing at championship level after going thr[ough] their on bouts of misfortunes and mishaps. The Spurs are going in the other direction.

    True enough, Kman. I don’t think this teams knows how to play without Duncan at crunch time. But one or two games of bad plays at the end don’t make a trend. It’s still the regular season and they have plenty of time to turn it around. If they lose the next two, and it’s very possible, since they are playing teams that have enough talent to beat them, I’ll start worrying.

    This is a team which doesn’t have great talent beyond the top 3. Neal and McDyess have impressed me this year, but Neal is still a rookie and McDyess is just not the explosive athlete he was in his prime. Jefferson has the physical attributes to be really good, but he just seems to disappear on the offensive end, which is as much the scheme as him. Blair has impressive hops, but he’s lacking in technique and discipline, and he’s just too short to pretend to be Shaq. George Hill has regressed this year, but he still can play well in short stints. So long as he doesn’t play PG … he’s a terrible ball handler.

    Splitter might be good next year. It’s a good thing he’s been getting some minutes late this year, so he can actually get in games and help the team in the playoffs.

    They should still be able to win enough games out of the rest of the season to hold onto HCA. When the playoffs start, it’s going to be long minutes for the core players. I don’t think the bench is going to be effective against elite teams. They just aren’t good enough, except for maybe Neal. Ginobili is going to be tired at the end of games, since he’s going to be playing ~40 mins.

    We need to enjoy this playoff run. Next year or the following, Duncan is leaving and the Spurs are going to be a .500 or below team for at least a couple years while rebuilding. I feel the Spurs have a good chance to win the west this year, especially if they wrap up HCA. And if they make it to the finals, it’s going to be really fun to watch.

    Are the Spurs a lock to win the championship this year? No, of course not. But I think they have a good shot at it if their core remains healthy. Duncan should be at 100% or nearly so soon after the playoffs begin. I’d favor them over any team in the west, except the Lakers, and they Lakers would only be a slight favorite. I think the Lakers are ovely dependant on Bryant, and if Bryant can be frustrated a bit, he will make mistakes late in games. He always does. The Spurs can beat them. I’m optimistic that they will, but even if they don’t I’ll still be a Spurs fan.

  • Mark B

    Titletown, once again I might once again be giving Pop too much credit, but sometimes I think he sticks his backup players in tough situations just to see how well they can handle them. Especially during the regular season, where it can be treated as a learning experience, instead of a tragedy if they don’t rise to the occasion.

  • Bruno

    @Mark B

    I don’t know why u think we need beat the Lakers to win…We don’t know if they will beat Portland or Mavs…And if spurs face them, of course Spurs can beat, everybody only talk about our “weak” frontcourt, but forgot about powerful backcourt.

    We need think about #1 seed and beat tem Memphis, after that we can think about Mavs or Lakers

  • Titletown99030507d

    MarkB,

    Splitter is starting only because Timmy is out but everyone still considers him a backup player so why not play him now till his wheels fall off. I just don’t understand it. It’s not like he was in foul trouble and he played well (+3), better than Blair (-4). I want to see a backup like Tiago who is improving game to game to get his reward on the court and in crunch time where they can use him. If anything I think he needs to be on the court more than Blair if they plan to use him in the playoffs.

  • Mark B

    @Bruno

    I think the Spurs should beat Memphis, and I’m hopeful they will beat Portland the following day. The only thing which concerns me is that the Portland game is a back-to-back situation for the Spurs and not for them. Hopefully, pride will take over and they will bear down.

    If they win these two games, I can probably relax and chill until the playoffs. HCA will be effectively locked up.

    And it’s true enough that the Lakers don’t have a free pass to the conference finals, but then neither do the spurs. There are lots of games to play before that, but my NBA bracket has the spurs playing the Lakers in the WC finals, but I could easily see Portland or OKC beating them. It’s going to be fun to watch.

  • Mark B

    Spliter himself has said his game conditioning is lacking. If that’s the reason for his limited minutes, I expect them to increase over the next couple of games while Duncan is out. If they don’t we know Pop just doesn’t trust him.

  • Mark B

    @Bruno

    Also IMO, the Mavs are done. They might win their first round series, but they just aren’t tough or deep enough go far in the playoffs. Nowitski is a great player, but you need more elite players on your team these days. Even if Caron Butler can make it back, he’s missed too much time to be effective.

  • Bruno

    @Mark B

    Mavs have a good matchup against the Lakers, Mavs weakness= fast guards, Lakers can’t explore that. IF Mavs take #2 seed i put my money on them

  • Bob

    With each loss Pop is giving coach of the year away. In a way it kind of supports Tim Duncan for MVP and validates his allstar spot. Hopefully Spurs can get all the bad play out of their system. At least they’re no longer getting blown out by 30 points.

    Ginobili seemed pretty ticked off after last game. Hopefully that lights a fire in him and he goes on a tear like he did late last season. Because they had been playing well as a team, I think he felt he didn’t have to do too much. But now with Duncan out, I think he is going to realize he has to do more.

  • Colin

    Bruno

    “IF Mavs take #2 seed i put my money on them”

    No way man. Lakers hold all of the match ups in that one.

    If the Lakers go big, they can’t play Kidd/Terry or Beaubois/Terry/Kidd combo without one of them guarding Bryant/Odom/Artest.

    The Mavs will be forced to sit their quickest assets if the Lakers go big.

  • spurholic in Mumbai

    A devastating loss, given it was back to back, before the game Spurs had a 12-1 record after loosing a game. Mistakes which one could attribute to lower rung teams in the last 30 sec cost us the game. The in-bound to Manu at the end was a holler.

    More worried on #1 rank, as Lakers continue to win and close the gap - now 4/5 games.

    It would be interesting if 48 MoH team could do an anlysis of Coach Pop’s record in the last 30 seconds with ofensive set ups. My little knoweldge is tainted mostly by iso rather than set pieces being used. In my humble experience Coach Stan V Gundy, may be the best set pieces coach.

  • Hobson13

    I think there’s another angle to these last two losses that no one is talking about. Namely the fact that Tony and ESPECIALLY Manu are highly inconsistent for NBA stars. For 3 of our 4 championships, we had Duncan (one of the most consistent players EVER) in his prime anchoring the team with Manu and Parker as sideshows. Even though Duncan has taken a step back this year, he has still played well in clutch minutes this year.

    However, with Duncan out, the team seems much more eratic. With Manu and Tony running the entire show, the highs are high and the lows seem much lower. Examples: We led for most of the game (at one point as much as 14) against a very good Nuggets team. We led by 10pts with 6 minutes to go against a team that has given us fits in the past (Portland). However, in the end, Manu and Tony executed poorly in the last minute against the Nuggs and completely fell apart in the last minute againt the Blazers.

    Here’s my point: If we are relying on Manu and Tony to take us to the promised land this year and win difficult playoff games in the last 2 minutes, we may be in for a rude shock. I’m not convinced either can carry this team without Duncan not only playing, but performing at a relatively high level.

  • Rafael

    @Hobson13

    In playoffs Bonner/Blair will not play all the 4th(like this 2 games), so will be not hard keep winning the game with good players on the floor

  • Bob

    @Hobson13
    Very good point. One thing I feel about the Spurs is they haven’t always played to their potential. People tend to see them as overachievers. Yet, I feel if they had reached their potential they could probably have a few more titles. If the Lakers hadn’t won last season people would be saying they didn’t reach their potential. Yet the times the Spurs have been expected to win following a championship they haven’t. Yet when they aren’t expected to they have. The people that say Phil Jackson has won because he had talented players deny how hard it is to win consistently and especially when you have all the expectations and pressure.

  • Colin

    @ Bob

    “The people that say Phil Jackson has won because he had talented players deny how hard it is to win consistently and especially when you have all the expectations and pressure.”

    Very true………..But not a very realistic statement when applied to Phil Jackson.

    What is also true is that no one except maybe Red Auerbach has coached as many bona-fide star players. Having Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan on your team certainly helps defy all statistical numbers in regard to pressure and expectation in seasons of championship aspiration.

    Clearly, we will never know how coach Jackson would have wound up coaching rosters of lesser talent and all the “pressure and expectation” that come with an 82 game season.

  • MSteele

    @Hobson13
    I agree with you to an extent, Manu and Tony aren’t gonna carry us deep without Timmy but this is because they are the only ball handlers/players able to create for others on this team. They handle it on nearly every possesion and so when Timmy is on the floor it gives us a low post threat to take the burden of both Manu and Parker.

    I don’t like the ISO Manu play as much as the next guy, but lets take this back a second he made his last 2 shots and he had the hot hand, name me one team in the league who would go away from a play that was working for there best player.

    Thats besides the point anyways, I’ll chalk it up as an awful game and move on with the season, we basically have to go .500 the rest of the season to get HCA which is easily do-able (???), we’ve got a stretch of games @Hou, Phx, @Atl, Sac, Uta which are all easily winnable. We just need Timmy healthy, more mins for Split and we’re good to go.

    @Titletown
    Cheer up buddy, Pop will make mistakes like every other coach in the league, luckily for us he’s made fewer than them.

    Hey you never know guys Memphis is only 2 games behind 7th so hopefully they catchup and leave us with a West-less New Orleans.

  • Bankshot21

    The negativity on here is ridiculous. When we win close games you guys moan and complain. When we lose close games you moan and complain. When we blow teams out you moan and complain. When we get blown out you moan and complain. Get a damn hobby and bring some joy to your lives for goodness sakes. Some of you never see a silver lining in anything this organization does. Who’s to say we didn’t go after Randolph? Who wants the last 1st round pick in a terrible draft class? Smell the damn roses already. We don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. Not even the writers of 48MOH know what’s going on behind the scenes of our beloved team. Stop assuming.

  • Titletown99030507d

    @Bankshot,

    This blog is entertainment for me. I work and have hobbies plus I enjoy reading this blog and contributing my opinion. I point out failures of this team as well as their success. There has been some short comings of late and I like to address them. and when they succeed I like to point that out also. I like to write about the match ups and such.
    What we write isn’t going to affect anything (FO) , the players or the people involved in decision making. Frankly, we probably don’t exist to them anyway. So chill out and let us express our opinion. It’s just opinion. Some of us are passionate than others, at least they’re responding to this blog. That’s goal of this blog to get readers and lots of them to engage in friendly opinionated Spurs conversation whether you agree or disagree. Sit back and enjoy the blog.

  • Mark B

    @Bankshot:

    I’m not too concerned about the negativity too much. It’s mostly a matter of perception. It takes only a couple of words to say ‘Great game, Manu’ but you can put a couple of paragraphs into how the Spurs are missing rotations and how the wrong personnell is on the court sometimes at critical times in the game.

    Of course, when someone says something like ‘Popovich is a terrible coach’ that’s laughable. He’s clearly not, but that doesn’t mean that he never makes a mistake. And it’s not negative to point it out when you think he does.

  • Mark B

    Short version of previous post: without moaning and complaining, internet commenting would hardly exist at all.

  • Tim in Surrey

    @Bankshot21 - I couldn’t agree more. While I’ve enjoyed the intelligent discussions on this blog for quite a while, it’s rapidly becoming a chore to read the comments. I thought it was absurd to read comments from self-described “fans” who’ve given up on the season already, who are worried about losing HCA to the Lakers, who are convinced the Lakers will whip the Spurs, who think Pop can’t coach, etc. I’ve always tried to keep a relatively respectful tone in my posts but, Jesus, what a bunch of idiots! I’d love to be able to go back in time and ask everyone how they thought they might react if the Spurs were 57-15 with 10 games left in the season. Can you imagine someone saying “Aw, I’d probably think the season was effectively over because there would be no chance of winning a title”? Crazy.

  • Lewis

    ’99. ’03, ’05, ’07. There are 2 misses in that line of Spurs Championships: 2001, when the Spurs had the BEST record in the league and faced the Lakers in the Western Conf. Finals-4-ZIP. About as bad as the last game against the Spurs 3 weeks ago. Then 2009, Lakers beat Orlando. Spurs have a good team, but they will have a war getting past the 2nd round against probable opponent the Thunder. I like the Lakers chances…

  • TD = Best EVER

    @ Bankshot21

    “Who’s to say we didn’t go after Randolph? Who wants the last 1st round pick in a terrible draft class? Smell the damn roses already. We don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. Not even the writers of 48MOH know what’s going on behind the scenes of our beloved team. Stop assuming.”

    Well for 1 I say they didn’t go after him…… If the Spurs really want a player you will hear about it………… just like Corey Brewer…… Because NBA players/Agents are just like Desperate Housewives……. They love the attention and the more teams interested the better…… So if POP or RC made any serious calls to NY about Randolph……we would get some details from an “inside source close to the situation” or however they put it. And as far as what they asked for, Yes our 1st round pick alone wouldn’t be enough, that’s why you add something to the deal. JA and or a 2nd…… Basically what ever it takes…….. The problem here is that most fans and our FO seem incapable of giving up on ROLE PLAYERS………. And that’s all we have w/o our BIG 3. And once TD/MANU retire, we will not even be a playoff team w/o another Big Contract player coming in here……. We could have took care of our present and future with a move like this…….Randolph is going to be another Chris Bosh/Odom type player and as much as I hate Bosh, he would make for a damn good transition away from Manu/TD. They have to retire sometime, and having a STUD in waiting is always a good thing.

  • Hobson13

    TD = Best EVER
    March 27th, 2011 at 9:50 am

    I believe you and I were the main ones touting Randolph. I’ve been saying for over a year that the Spurs should go after him. In the last 5 games with the Twolves, he has averaged 19.8pts/9.5rebs/1 blk. He may not keep this up forever, but there’s no question he is a big time NBA talent. Sure the kid may have some problems, but some of those can be ironed out with veteran leadership. Apparently you and I were spot on with our claims.

  • Julian_Talisman

    … Kudos to Bankshot21 and Tim in Surrey … I second that observation, and I couldn’t agree more … No thanks to culprits like TD=Best Ever , Titletown and the likes who had made reading comments tedious and head scratching … I went 86 comments made … great , this is going to be a good read and source of FYI on our Spurs … It turns out 30 percent were comments made by the above two …. Oh well :( .

  • junierizzle

    Anthony Randolph putting up nice numbers with the TWOLVES doesn’t really impress that much.

    Somebody has to score on that team.

  • lvmainman

    @ junierizzle,

    People said the same thing about Pau Gasol avg 19 pts and 9 reb a game with the Grizzlies and losing 12 straight playoff games.

    You forgot to mention that Kevin Love putting up nice numbers with the TWOLVES doesn’t really impress that much as well.

  • betsyduncan

    I, too, wish cooler heads would prevail on this blog.
    All I can hope (for) is that our guys step it up in Tim’s absence. You can’t replace what Tim brings to our team, you can only hope to cover the gaps in ‘corporate knowledge’ and pray for luck. Pop is doing his best with what he has—more power to him. When a team isn’t at full strength, it’s nerve-wracking for fans and players alike.

  • Bankshot21

    @Titletown

    Your opinion is your opinion, but you too have shat on the opinions of others so please. I was not addressing you but something must have screamed out to make you think I was. We are 57-15. We weren’t even expected to be 47-25 @ this point and all you can do is point out what Pop did wrong? Mind you….he gets paid to make those decisions while we watch the end result. Someone said it perfect. If an NBA player can’t inbound the ball that’s not the coaches fault. There are wheelchair bound bloggers that could have gotten that pass in. Now I’m not going to crucify Novak. He made a mistake. We all saw it. Its obvious. Let’s move forward and wish the best. There’s absolutely no hope in many of your posts. Don’t start cheering when things go well. That’s what I like to call a bandwagon hopper. Ride out until the wheels fall off. Our wheels are far from falling off by the way. But that’s my OPINION. If I can knock yours and you can knock mine then I can return the favor and its a never ending cycle.

    @TD=B.E.

    Who cares if you THINK they didn’t go after him. We don’t KNOW. You do realize there’s a difference don’t you? I think prime Olajuwon was better than prime Russell but I don’t know. Until you show me RC said he had no interest in getting Randolph then what you think means less than 0.

    @EVERYONE

    When we win it all and everyone is rejoicing we will still have the few who must throw rain on the parade. “If Splitter got more minutes we would have won the championship in 5 games instead of 6″. People like that can not help themselves. Its a defensive mechanism to shield themselves from being wrong. I don’t mind being wrong. I don’t think our FO minds being wrong. Just go out with effort and I’m a happy camper.

  • lvmainman

    @ Tim in Surrey,

    I’m curious how you’re not the least bit worried about the Spurs losing HCA, seeing how the Spurs are losing w/out Duncan and the Fakers have won every game except one since the All-Star break!! Spurs were up 7 games with 12 to play and now are up 4 with 9 to play. Why do you find the worry of losing HCA not to be a legitimate concern??

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