Should the Spurs Buy a Ticket to the Stephen Jackson Sweepstakes?

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As many of you may already know, Stephen Jackson has stated publicly that he would like to be traded by the Golden State Warriors. He mentioned the Texas Three-Step, Cleveland, and New York as potential landing spots. This all begs the question: should the Spurs attempt to trade for Stephen Jackson?

For the purposes of full disclosure, I’ll admit that I would love for Stephen Jackson to return to the Spurs. He was one of the my favorite players during our ’03 title run. Turmoil has followed him since his days in San Antonio, but my opinion of him has consistently echoed that of his former teammates: Tim Duncan et al. speak often of their affection for him, and so do I.

But there are plenty of players I would love to have on the Spurs. That doesn’t make their acquisition realistic. So is my yearning to see S-Jax back in the silver and black empty hope, or could this truly happen?

At this point, there are only two trade scenarios I would consider (both of which were mentioned in a comment thread on Friday): Jackson for Bonner and Mason; or Jackson for Bonner, Finley and Williams. In terms of the championship run the Spurs are about to make this upcoming season, I think either of those are an immediate upgrade.

And immediate upgrades have been the name of the game this offseason. The notion that Tim Duncan is the window has gained some traction in the front office, and subsequently, from a financial and personnel perspective, the team has gone all in.

If you’ve already bet the house, why not toss in the car and the kids’ college fund while your at it? Then again, it’s not as if the Spurs are doomed to irrelevancy in 2 or 3 years: This is a team with some solid young pieces, a rejuvenated core, and arguably the savviest front office in the league. Maybe a little consideration for the post-Tim Duncan era is in order.

As someone who plans on being a fan far past the year 2012, I’m fine with making some long-term considerations as long as we have already ensured that we will genuinely be a contender this upcoming season. And as we’ve discussed around here recently, there are reasons to be skeptical.

Just to be clear, I believe the Spurs are a contender. In fact, I believe the Spurs might even be slightly underrated. But if we had Stephen Jackson coming off the bench behind Richard Jefferson, we would be a large step towards silencing the doubters and (more importantly) shoring ourselves up against potential injury.

It’s worth noting that, if the Spurs had both Jefferson and Jackson on the team, the starting position at small forward could be up for grabs. For all this talk of Jackson being a “chucker,” his player efficiency rating of 16.20 last season was better than Jefferson’s rating of 15.45. And although I am very susceptible to the argument that Jefferson’s PER was a bit deflated due to the injury woes the Bucks faced, you could make the same argument about Jackson and the Warriors, who were without Monta Ellis for a significant portion of the season.

Again, just to be clear, I think Jefferson deserves the starting job, Jackson or no Jackson. But were this trade to go down, there is an argument to be made.

That being said, we all know PER is disproportionately reactive to a player’s offensive ability and, let’s be honest, Jackson’s abilities on the defensive end are probably a larger concern. Except, when you are talking about trading some combination of Michael Finley, Matt Bonner, or Roger Mason, do you honestly see Jackson as a step down defensively? I don’t.

But Jackson’s potential contributions this upcoming season are not what concerns my colleague Tim Varner, who is opposed to the trade. Tim’s worried about the fact that Jackson is owed $7.6 million next season; $8.5 mil the next; $9.2. mil the season after that; and to top it all off, $10 million during the 2012/13 season. Those are numbers that make even someone as shamelessly adoring of Jackson as myself take a step back.

This all leaves us with a question we have asked numerous times this summer: Would you rather compete for championships during the next 2 to 3 seasons or be better prepared to undergo a legitimate rebuilding effort in 3 or 4? Call me imprudent, but I side with the former.

The Dallas Factor

I’d like to mention that, if Jackson does not end up in a Spurs uniform next season, there is a decent chance that he could end up playing for Dallas. Of all the places aside from San Antonio Jackson expressed interest in (Dallas, Houston, Cleveland, and New York), Dallas worries me the most.

As things currently stand, Dallas is a very underrated ball club. In my opinion, with the Marion acquisition, the moved firmly into the West’s top 5, if not into its top 3. If they had Jason Terry and Stephen Jackson coming off the bench behind Dirk, Howard, Kidd, Marion and Dampier, they would be no pushover come the postseason.

I don’t love the idea of Cleveland strengthening their team any further either, but for the sake of my own mental health, I try not to worry about Eastern Conference contenders too much. We have 82 games and 3 rounds of the playoffs before we have to worry about meeting an Eastern Conference team in an elimination game. Let’s stay focused on our rivals in the West.

Which is also exactly why I am not worried about the Rockets: Even if they did trade for Jackson, he alone doesn’t push them into the ranks of the West’s elite.

By no means am I advocating trading for a player just so a division rival doesn’t get him. But I did want to say that seeing Jackson in that awful blue and green isn’t exactly the way I had hoped this story would end either.

  • John

    I think there’s no question that Captain Jack would be a significant upgrade. However, I’m not sure that it’s really an upgrade we’d want to make. Right now, if we trade Bonner, that puts a lot of pressure on DeJuan Blair, Ian Mahinmi and Theo Ratliff to produce as the only three big men left behind Bonner. Obviously, that’s a risky proposition because we have to both worry about all of their ability to produce (Blair and Mahinmi because of inexperience, Ratliff because he has too much) as well as their injury issues. If Duncan or McDyess gets injurred at any point in the season, suddenly we’d find ourselves even more thin up front.

    Furthermore, if we sit tight, there’s always a good chance that someone is going to underachieve and start a fire sale around the trade deadline. We might be able to get someone much better than Jackson for hopefully less of a long-term commitment. Just because a trade might indeed be an upgrade doesn’t mean we shouldn’t hold out to see if we can get a better deal later on.

  • Jose

    The thought of Jackson coming to the silver and black, excities me. But my worries are the money Jackson is owed and I believe it will stunt the growth of the Spurs young players. Finley is almost done, Jefferson will be a main cog for awhile. So lets see how Hairston, Hill, and Blair turn out.

    Plus, if Splitter comes next summer. Its like getting a free agent who can make a impact right then. Jackson is good no doubt, but he is getting older. I like what the Spurs have right now. Jackson will go somewhere else, hopefully not Dallas, or Cleveland. I’m hoping for NY or Houston.

  • JJ

    I don’t think Houston wants him. They let Artest walk for the same reason they won’t want Jackson.

    Dallas is well over the luxury tax for the foreseeable future, so they would owe Jax double his salary for quite a while.

    Possibly the Cavs, but they don’t have many expiring contracts they would be willing to move (Big Z, Shaq). Possibly Delonte West (guaranteed only 500K next season) and Jamario Moon for Jax?

    I don’t know why the Knicks would take Jackson and that contract if they are trying to shed salary.

    So out of the teams that Jackson named, the Spurs seem the most likely, but even then there are some arguments on why the Spurs would not be interested.

    It could be a tough situation for GS and just because a player wants something, does not mean they get it.

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Timothy Varner

    Gents and ladies,

    Great discussion so far. For my part, I’ve been further persuaded by the leave Jackson alone crowd.

    And, fwiw, if he’s not moved now, the Spurs can go get him at deadline.

  • Jordan

    @Beat Counselor,
    The 76ers would probably be jumping for joy if the Spurs wanted to take Dalembert off their hands. But, I don’t think he’s going to be what you’re looking for and that price tag is just as ugly. As for Jackson being past his prime, you may be right, but he is only 31. Nash won his second MVP when he was 31. Not that I’m comparing them. But shooting, defense and passing age very well, and Jackson’s game is rooted in all three of those things.

    @JJ
    True, true, and true…though, Manu’s situation should be looked at as a separate issue. I mean, if people want to stick on that point, then they’d have to think of it like the team is trading Finley, Bonner, and Mason for Ginobili next year. That, in and of itself, is a shakier proposition than trading for Jackson imo.

    @John,
    I think you have a valid point about injuries to the bigs. Even the young rookie has pressing injury concerns, but, in all honesty, if Duncan gets hurt, that pretty much puts the season down the toilet anyway. There isn’t a single player who can fill in, even adequately for Timmy missing significant time. If McDyess goes down (and he’s been a rock the past few seasons) Duncan has won with Nesterovic, Mohammed and Oberto, so finding a smart big (not saying Nazr was smart…) won’t be too hard by mid season. Hell, Oberto might be available! On the flipside of that, finding a player like Jackson when other teams will be going all in or pulling all their chips off the table at mid-season, will be much harder. Getting him now allows for the team to gel from the get-go and it helps ease Ginobili back.

    @Sean C
    Thanks. See, ALL lakers fans aren’t asswhipes.

    @Timothy Varner,
    Was wondering what points have swayed you in favor of moving away from Jackson.

  • http://fundamentally-sound.blogspot.com Jaceman

    Perhaps this doesn’t hold true for Jackson, since he’s played for Popovich before, but I’m hard pressed to think of any team that made a major shift in its rotation mid-season via some pre-trade deadline move that has won in that season. Furthermore, short of Marcus Camby, there really aren’t any “legit” defensive-minded seven-footers out there, none that fit well next to Duncan at the least. The only two other fits are both playing for the Celtics (Garnett and Wallace).

    I agree to some extent that trading Bonner might not be a great idea, since he at least is a known factor. John, please check your roster, last I checked, trading Bonner would leave a good 4 other bigs besides McDyess and Duncan, those being Mahinmi, Haislip, Blair, and Ratliff. Of course, we don’t expect Ratliff to be a huge factor, but Bonner really becomes just insurance in the roster, insurance in case Mahinmi, Haislip, and Blair don’t pan out, those three are currently the biggest x-factors in the Spurs roster at the moment.

    I was unable to watch a whole lot of games but I’m rather amused by the sudden love of Roger Mason, at least as a basketball player. I’m sure he’s a great guy, he shoots the three fairly well, but he’s an undersized 2 with fairly poor defense and is relatively inefficient in his scoring. Are there people I would rather have than Stephen Jackson? Sure. I’ll take any one of Caron Butler, Kobe Bryant, Brandon Roy, or even Michael Redd, are those realistic? Not at all. The only reason to not take Jackson here and now are simply the future implications regarding salary and all that, and perhaps that warrants a cautious look. However, roster-wise, Jackson is hands down an upgrade over Finley and Mason, that’s not the question, I think the question is, can we find a cheaper and younger version in Hairston and/or Williams?

    2-way wing players are hard to find, and Jackson is among those. He doesn’t make the best decisions, but he’s a crafty player and he can be effective. He’d end up being something of a fall-back, albeit an expensive one, but he might be worthwhile. This roster spot has been one that I think the Spurs should have been upgrading for a while, but we just haven’t. Ultimately, while I’m not a huge fan of waiting and seeing until the trade deadline (as the Spurs usually don’t do) because of the lack of time to mesh, it might be a necessary evil in order to better assess our needs. What do we need more? More viable wing options or an improvement on the front line? Ultimately it boils down to who fails to deliver: Williams and Hairston? or Haislip, Blair, and Mahinmi?

    However, that being said, with Mason, Finley, and Bonner being known quantities, I still don’t think we should settle for them. I think they’re highly tradeable, and ought to be traded if an improvement can be made. Stephen Jackson: upgrade, as for the contract and money issues, I’ll let Buford decide if Jackson is worth that price.

    BTW Tim, thanks for reading it. Hopefully I’ll be able to get some more posts up soon.

  • sydneylla

    Boy oh boy, I cannot wait for the season to start. Partly, to see the new-look Spurs in action. But just as much, to quell all the entertaining but ultimately, to my mind, wasted energy being spent on discussions of how we can secure Stephen Jackson.

    When one looks at 1) the length of his contract, 2) his age, 3) what it would do to our financial flexibility as the season progresses and 4) how it would make re-signing Manu impossible, it becomes pretty apparent very fast that he will NOT be wearing silver and black this season.

    By all means, don’t let me get in the way of having a good time exploring endless trade scenarios. But at the end of the day, I think that this is the team that will be suiting up for us on opening night. Let’s discuss our options again come February.

    But for now, I think my view is best expressed by the words of Gene Hackman as Coach Norman Dale in “Hoosiers” when facing a skeptical gym full of fans who wanted the team to add a beloved player*:

    “I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not… This is your team. ”

    *Of course, they did ultimately add Jimmy Chitwood to the squad, but not at $35 million over 4 years.

  • Nick (Italy)

    Since I already explained the reasons for which I would strongly consider the possibility to make a trade with G.S. for Captain Jack in my comments in the other thread, I won’t bother you again on the point.

    But a couple of things I read left me astonished:

    1) It seems just like a couple of days before the trade deadline some kind of 7’1” hyper athletic mix between MJ and Bill Russel will suddendly become available and hell bent to sign with the Spurs. Sorry, but I just don’t think this will be the case. At the trade deadline, the teams willing to make a loopsided trade will include Sacramento, Memphis, New York (Curry and Jeffries…), Minnesota, Indiana, NJ. No hall of famers available here. Maybe Charlotte, Phila, Atlanta, Utah and New Orleans will be willing to trade too, if they stink greatly. The best we are getting is Boozer, in the remote possibility that he sticks with Utah that long (and that we put together 12 millions in expiring contracts, meaning a 4 for 1 trade or saying goodbye to Manu, which would rank this move as one of the dumbest ever), Posey (even worse contract than Jax, when you consider production) or Redd (coming back from a torn ACL and with that nice 2010/2011 18 millions player option).

    Please consider that young studs with reasonable contracts (Kevin Martin, Josh Smith, Al Jefferson, Millsap), studs with expiring contracts (Joe Johnson) & superstars (Cris Paul, Deron Williams) weren’t, aren’t and won’t be even remotely available.

    Maybe I am missing someone, but I can’t see a player much better than Jax becoming available at the trade deadline and, in any case, he will come with a bad/so and so contract (that is the reason the other team is willing to trade for expiring contracts).

    So, I would be grateful to anyone who can point out to me that 7 footer defensive savior who will be there for us to pick up (thanks in advance to everyone who will avoid to mention a certain newly acquired Bobcats’ player in this discussion).

    2) Talking about Captain Jack independently from the evaluation of the possible trade, I can’t believe people from the Bay Area are really bashing Stephen.

    This guy played 40 minutes of Nellie Ball per game last year (good for 2nd in the league in
    mpg), taking a ton of shot, but still shooting substantially around his career FG% (0.414, just to give an example Mason shot 0.425, Finley 0.437, the new high vaunted *starting* SF of the Lakers 0.401, Joe Johnson 0.437, Richard Jefferson 0.439), leading the team in meaningless statistics such as ppg, apg, being 2nd in FTpg and 5th in rebounds, while posting the higher PER of his career.

    And someone is criticizing him because he has been a bad defender and he took bad shots? In that system? Playing for such an embarassing team in such an embarassing and disfunctional organization? In a season full of minor-but-still-bothering injuries? Playing PG in November? Being the emotional leader of the team?

    Personally, I do think he wasn’t the terrible player you portray… …or at least he had 14 worse players (and a worse coach) on his team!

    Best,

    N

  • Sean C
  • ThatBigGuy

    Let’s go for it. He’s a smart player, not afraid of late game heroics, and he’s got balls. We have many very good players, but how many have the out and out swagger Capt. Jack has? Swagger is such an underrated intangible. Who else will be able to talk mess to Kobe/LeBron/’Melo/et al? He adds an edgy dimension without being dangerous.

    I’m not worried about his character. When he was with us before, surrounded by quality men, he was a quality guy. He hung out with some questionable guys at Golden State, got in trouble, but has been pretty clean for the past little while. I say he shapes right back up once surrounded by quality guys again.

    As far as money goes (and I’m not writing checks here), it makes sense. There will be someone out there after the superstar shift of next summer that is looking to add good ball players to their new superstar. If LeBron ends up in New York, don’t you think he’d enjoy Capt. Jack on his team? I don’t think the last 2 years of his contract will be difficult to move, esp if his numbers and off court issues improve like most players in the Spur system.

    Let’s do it.

  • buns

    Great topic indeed.
    Every pro-trade I read almost convinces me. Come on that’s doable, let’s do it. Until I stop reading and try to simplify all that. And everything goes down.
    Aging player, huge contract, too long contract, would duplicate skills the Spurs already have, would threatens Manu’s future in SA, would rip salary cap further, would kill a mid-season trade possibility.
    I’m not mentionning the one-ball-for-ten-hot-hands part, because I’m quite sure every Spur has the will to share the ball just as Jackson would have it if he comes. Parkers took more shots last year because he had/wastold to. I don’t see him whining about less tickets if he has a title in sight.
    Well, I don’t know if simplifying thing is a good way to see clearer, but I’d be glad to claim ‘I was wrong’ if the Spurs end up winning two more rings with Jax on board.

  • http://myspurslink.blogspot.com Robby

    Tim,

    Thank for checking on My blog

    I like the wait and see approach as I think the best move would be before the Trade deadline…
    If we will take Capt Jack, i’d give up Bonner, Finley (although he has rights of first refusal) and a future second pick if thats possible…Cheers!

  • JJ

    Finley no longer has right of first refusal Robby IIRC.

  • Greg

    Not sure if anybody on here is a US Open fan, but David Robinson was recognized before the start of tonight’s US Open tournament along with Andre Agassi, Doug Flutie, and Mia Hamm. They were all recognized for their charitable foundations, Robinson for his Carver Acadamy that was started in San Antonio. I know there have been some posts about Robinson being inducted into the Hall of Fame, but as someone whose favorite player growing up was the Admiral, it was just a special moment to see him recognized on another big stage, and not just for his accomplishments on the court. He’s such a great person and it was a proud moment for this Spurs fan.

  • http://myspurslink.blogspot.com Robby

    How did Finley loose his right to first refusal? just curious… Thanks!

  • JJ

    Group 2: One-year Bird cases like Hollins and George.

    A team must receive permission from the player to trade him if he has signed a one-year contract (excluding options) and if the player (a) can become an Early Bird free agent at season’s end (player completes a two-year contract or finishes two consecutive years with the same team), (b) can become a Full Bird free agent at season’s end (player completes a three-year contract or finishes three consecutive seasons with the same team) or (c) has accepted a qualifying offer for the fifth season of a Rookie Scale contract.

    Players on the following list lose their Bird rights and become a non-Bird free agent at season’s end if, like Hollins, they give consent to be traded in these circumstances.
    Atlanta: Mario West
    Boston: Eddie House* and Sam Cassell
    Chicago: Ben Gordon
    Dallas: Devean George*
    Denver: Anthony Carter
    Detroit: Walter Herrmann
    Miami: Chris Quinn*
    New Orleans: Ryan Bowen
    Oklahoma City: Robert Swift
    Orlando: Adonal Foyle
    San Antonio: Michael Finley*

    * House, George, Quinn and Finley would no longer be on this list if they exercised their player option for 2009-10 … and players are permitted to pick up options during the season. Who could ever forget Milt Palacio doing so at the trade deadline in 2002 so he could be included in a deal which sent Tony Delk and Rodney Rogers to Boston for Palacio, Randy Brown, 2002′s No. 22 overall pick (which Phoenix used on Casey Jacobsen) and a future All-Star guard named Joe Johnson?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-090124-25

  • Kaveh

    I highly doubt that the Spurs would even think about signing Jackson. I highly respect Jackson’s play. In my opinion, Jack > Jefferson, even though most of you Spurs fans will disagree. While Jack is also a volume shooter, as is Jefferson, Jack also has a lot of other qualities which Jefferson lacks. Like athleticism + size, thus making him a hybrid player. A hybrid player who can play multiple positions and is excellent on defense. I wouldn’t look at Stephen’s numbers on D as he played on GSW. With the pace they play and the defense they have, Mutumbo in his prime would have bad defensive numbers if he was on GSW last year.

    If you get both Jackson and still have Jefferson the Spurs will look good on paper, but in reality there would be chemistry issues. As i said before, both jackson and jefferson are volume shooters. Where will all the shots come from? Personally, as a lakers fan, i’d much rather have Jefferson/Jackson taking up shots than Parker/Manu/Duncan, especially since the big 3 shoot a great FG% and they also create major foul trouble for opposing teams. Not to mention that the big 3 are also great playmakers and facilitators.

    Just look at the Usage % of Jackson and Jefferson! Both have USG% of 25%! This is ridiculously high for these players. USG% means the % of possessions which are designed for these players while they are in the game. Just to give you a comparison, i’m sure since most of you dislike Kobe, you think that he is a ball hog, etc. Kobe’s USG% is 32%. That means that while Kobe is in the game, he gets 32% of the laker’s possessions. Jefferson and Jackson both get 25%. Pau Gasol by comparison has a USG% of 20.4%. Of course even assists count in your USG% rate, so it’s not just shots/turnovers/etc.

    These two are volume shooters. I bet if the Spurs could go back with hindsight and decide on a new course of action, it would be to NOT sign Jefferson and to sign Jackson. However, since Jefferson is signed, I see no way that the Spurs would also sign Jackson. They are too similar. Both very inefficient volume shooters. You can’t have BOTH of these guys on 1 team, since 1 is bad enough (just kidding).

    What you guys need is a guy like Trevor Ariza. I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again. Ariza is like a young Bruce Bowen. That’s why you guys need. A guy who will hit the 3pt shot with high accuracy, but also has a very good sense of defense. A clutch shooter that is quick/athletic, understands his role and doesn’t shy from the big moments. Tough to find, but Jackson/Jefferson are not it.

    There is only 1 ball on the court. I wonder what is going to give next season. Here are the USG% for the following player’s from last year.

    Parker: 31.7% (as high as Kobe’s)
    Duncan: 28.5%
    Manu: 27.2%
    Jefferson: 25%
    Jackson: 25%

  • Kaveh

    I find it quite odd that everyone here thinks so badly of Ron Artest yet so highly of Jackson. The only bad thing Ron Artest has done is this…oh yeah, and the only bad think Jackson has done is this…see exact same video. By the way, who is worse, Jackson or Artest? Jackson is absolutely WAILING on a fan who didn’t even do anything. He is in the middle of EVERY fight.

    http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=1875149266123369069&hl=en&fs=true

  • Joe

    This is a Wikipedia entry, so take it for what it’s worth, but the ‘Reputation’ section in this link provides a fairly even-handed discussion of Jackson’s character issues. If anything, I came away with a much more positive impression of him than I had before reading the post.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jackson

  • Pok Flied Lice

    I have a feeling alot of people assumed that Parker would unconditionally continue to lead this team after Duncan gets old, and Duncan would stay until he retires?
    Captain Jack’s contract runs into 2013! Holy Crap! Think about that. It hinders the resigning of not just Manu, but Parker, Duncan and pretty much everybody else. Parker would still be in his prime at the end of his contract, that means he deserves a few mil more than this current one. More bad possibilities for the team than good ones.
    I sure want the team to win a championship, but thinking of the Heat in the past couple years give me chills.

  • NL

    I wouldn’t be worried about the character issues with Jax but as Tim stated in his post, the length of the contract, which could handcuff our ability to make good decisions in the future.

    In an ideal world, if we could pick him up for the next two years, I wouldn’t hesitate one bit. Phil Jackson is credited, and rightly so, for properly managing so many big egos on one team. The Spurs FO is credited for bringing in professionals – so when they have a Dennis Rodman, or a Glenn Robinson or SJax, they might not have the track record of a Tim Dunan, but they will be held in check and subscribe to Spurs’ philosophy.

  • Bert

    I don’t know if this is possible but if a players contract can be altered then I say bring jackson over. I think the only thing you can do to a contract is extended. But if it is possible.

    Finley right now is only a trade piece and Bonner is some what of a no show and Mason is the best of this 3 trade assets.

    The best option for a trade would be to trade finley and bonner for jackson.

    But long term he isn’t the answer. He’s good now but later.

    We have to worry about defense. The legendary spurs defense was absent last year. Trying for battie is better trade for now and later. Short contract and great value.

    That would be a better trade than for Jackson. If he hadn’t left after 2003. I still say the spurs couldve won 6 straight championships but hey people have their own intrest which for jackson hasn’t panned out very well.

    Defense should be a concerned right now than offense.

    But let Pop decide. How many times has he been wrong.

  • buns

    He stopped shaving for too long?

  • duaneofly

    Lol thanks for that link Kaveh, listening to Jim Gray and especially Bill Walton’s commentary on what’s happening cracks me up.

    Also you’re right, Ron started it by going into the stands, but Jackson and Jermaine O’neal looked like they were kids in a candy shop while they jumped into the fray and started punching people.

  • http://fundamentally-sound.blogspot.com Jaceman

    @Kaveh:

    Jackson is more athletic and bigger than Jefferson? I’m sorry, but which Jackson and which Jefferson are we talking about here? Darnell and Dontell? Jefferson is listed at 6-7 225 lbs, boasts a much more athletic game attacking the basket. Jackson is listed at 6-5 218 lbs. I’ve also seen Jackson play, he’s anything but athletic, but he plays smart. Jackson is a crafty player, but he’s anything but an athletic one.

  • http://fundamentally-sound.blogspot.com Jaceman

    @Bert

    Do I want Shane Battier? Sure, and I want Kobe Bryant too. My point is it’s not reasonable, and you know the Rockets aren’t trading Battier.