Spurs 2010 Training Camp Roster, so far

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Training camp is right around the corner for the San Antonio Spurs, and the rest of the NBA. Thankfully for fans, that means the regular season — and actual basketball — is not far behind.

But before the regular season tips off, there are still questions to be answered. And we can expect most of those to be resolved in the next few weeks.

Below is the preliminary roster for the Spurs’ 2010 training camp, as no official word has come from the team yet. According to Ridiculous Upside, three non-roster players received invites to training camp this year: James Gist, Kirk Penney and Marcus Cousin.

James Gist is the most interesting invite to training camp, for me. With his size and athleticism, he’s got the combination to fill spot minutes as both a backup small forward and a 6th big man. Training camp this year is big for Gist.

Again, this roster is not official.

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  • jharr42

    cousin is going to be the interesting one…this guy has had issues in the past and that doesnt fit the spurs mo.but he can get over those issues he would be a great pickup.

  • http://48minutesofhell.com/2010/09/02/death-of-tradition anonymous

    Sticking in all those new players into the system and dropping out many of the hopefuls who have learning how to play in the system ain’t going to happen any time soon, you know that yourself. Now, in the very unlikely event that the Spurs get a terrible start, Parker plays poorly and the hopefuls like Anderson, Neil, Penny , Gist, Bonner or which ever other ones make the team instead, also play badly and need to be replaced by such personage as you’re advacating , which are then proving to be playing well instead, N.Y. ain’t going to do the deal anyway. Jim why are you and others like you not fans of the Spurs players but fans of N.Y. players. Maybe Popovich could take yo’rn and beat his’n or he could take his’n and then beat yor’n but more likely the Spurs will continue to beat them with I’rn instead of yo’rn. I wish you and your Knickerbockers well.

  • sean

    watch out for penny, the guy was a machin ein the fiba world chapms playing with a young new zealand side. he held his own and domianted rubio and co. I think giv ethis guy some time and he will be the spurs go 2 man off the bench.

  • http://48minutesofhell.com/2010/09/02/death-of-tradition anonymous

    Teach penny how to fit in the team defense concept and he will likely contribute positively. The good part of it is they can get him for a song and remember at this point they are paying new players double. Not being unpatriotic I like furan players. I’t's a Spurs trademark. We are all God’s children and citizens of the world. I hope someone don’t report me for abuse and get me throwed off of here. I am sure I made alot of people mad but that’s a relative term since they are mad anyway(crazy insane). Forget freedom of the press and of speech. Make my day. Throw me off here.

  • SA-eric

    I know you guys don’t like trade ideas, but wouldn’t it be cool to get the following players: Nene and Derrick Favors (maybe Timmy’s future replacement). We’d have to give up Tony, McDyess, Tiago, James Anderson, Alonzo Gee (or maybe Curtis Jerrells) , and a couple of draft picks.

    But Nene, Favors and the addition of a hungry, if somewhat overweight, Baron Davis might just push us over the top in the west. In Favors, we get someone the front office truly coveted for the future of the Spurs. In, Nene we get a proven NBA Center. In Baron, we get the wild card, but hopefully he’d be willing to work under a great coach in a great organization in order to win a title.

    I know almost no one wants to lose Tony from the team, but if we have a better chance of giving Timmy another chance at a title, shouldn’t we do it? As for Tiago, even though I think he could be a great NBA center, I think the front office just might have been willing to trade his rights this past summer to get Derrick Favors.

    If you’re interested in a breakdown of the teams and players involved in such a trade, please use Trade ID# 5702959 at RealGM.com to see all the parties at my proposed party.

  • Jim Henderson

    anonymous
    September 26th, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    Number one, the Spur “system” wasn’t built for “rocket scientists”. RJ’s problems were HIS problems, not the alleged esoteric nature of the “system”. That is a myth. Also, we already have a few “new” players this season, but I’m not worried that their brains are going to fall out onto the floor of the AT&T center. I just hope some of them know how to get the job done — period!

    Number two, Parker may simply prefer to move on after this season. He knows Duncan’s days are numbered, and he and his “stylish” wife may simply feel it’s the right time for the bright lights of NYC. As a result, I’m providing realistic options to consider if TP is going to leave. And the fact is we still need to acquire additional young and talented players at SF & the 4/5 spot to be competitive longer term, and TP is by far our most valuable & realistic trade piece at present. I’m not interested in just the next couple of years (the so-called TD window). I’m interested in the long-term health of the Spur franchise.

    Number three, calling me more a fan of the Knick’s than the Spur’s is both puerile and pathetic.

    And finally, can you do me a favor and translate the following gibberish into english:

    “Maybe Popovich could take yo’rn and beat his’n or he could take his’n and then beat yor’n but more likely the Spurs will continue to beat them with I’rn instead of yo’rn.”

    Thanks!

  • http://48minutesofhell.com/2010/09/02/death-of-tradition anonymous

    being from NC I have heard of Felton. Now I will intertret some NC giberish. He {Popavich}could take yo’rn and beat his’n. Or he could take His’n and beat yor’n. These are called contactions. It”s what the language you are trying to speak came from. In your knicks Yankee language it is interptreted as he could take your’s and beat his or he could take his and beat your’s. You Yankee’s just require more letters to say the same thing. but that’s ok . I want you to understand.

  • http://48minutesofhell.com/2010/09/02/death-of-tradition anonymous

    After farther thought, I believe not even Coach Pop could Yor’n and beat His’n.

  • Jim Henderson

    anonymous
    September 26th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    “These are called contactions.”

    I’m sorry, but “contaction” is NOT a word.

    Neither are these “contractions”: his’n yo’rn

    “You Yankee’s”…….

    Aren’t (yes, that’s a “contraction”) most U.S. citizen’s down South past this anachronistic, “Civil War” era inspired vernacular? After all, it is the 21st century.

    ……..just require more letters to say the same thing. but that’s ok.”

    Actually, all “we Yankees” require is for sentences, spelling, and punctuation to be grammatically correct. After all, that’s just a basic requirement that allows effective and efficient communication to be carried out among citizen’s of a country.

    “……In your knicks Yankee language it is interptreted as he could take your’s and beat his or he could take his and beat your’s.”

    First of all, my “Knicks Yankee language” is actually the “English language”. And second, even if it were true that with your “hieroglyphic” (I’m being facetious, not literal!) explanation I could guess the literal interpretation of this language that you use, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL POINT THAT YOU’RE TRYING TO MAKE?!

    If I had to guess it would be that most trades don’t make sense to you because you simply don’t have a detailed enough understanding of player personnel around the league, nor about what it entails to put together a TEAM that can effectively compete over the short & long term. As a result, you see “good” players as basically interchangeable, so you’d prefer to stick with player(s) that you “like”, and are a “fan” of over players that you don’t know and aren’t familiar with.

    How did I do?

    Oh, and by the way, could we drop the antiquated “Southern” jargon? The 48MOH blog is really not the greatest forum for it. It makes it more of a chore to have substantive & meaningful dialogue.

    “Why is there always so many bloggers saying trade our stars for near nothing when they know it never has happened and never will? It’s a study in human nature. I think it’s some form of mental illness and we should pity them.”

    Finally, keeping your amateur “Pop” (pun intended) psychology to a minimum would be greatly appreciated. I’m afraid your diagnostic zeal and faux compassion could easily be misinterpreted, and in fact might even offend some of the regular patrons.

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Timothy Varner

    Yes, all let’s not resurrect the Civil War here. Broad brushing about Yankees and Southerners isn’t a help to anyone.

  • http://48minutesofhell.com/2010/09/02/death-of-tradition anonymous

    It was an attempt at humor that you seemed to find more disturbing than funny. This is not a comedy forum. I have limmited knowledge about players around the league and find your fantasy league type discussions boring but I will defend your right to bore me, I don’t have to read it anyway unless I want. I sincerely want that what best for the Spurs and even with my limited knowledge, have a philosophy more in line with the front office and far different from your own and I hope I will remain free to express it. I am predudice against alot of peoples, groups and actions but the people of the northern USA are not among them. For those people and activities that I am predudice against, I have learned alot of political correctness but be used to keep from getting throwed off of here. I done been throwed off of here once for about a year and for the Spurs sake I don’t want that to happen again. It could have cost them the Chanpionship last year. I tried to warn Ginobili about wearing that glaring white bandage but they wouldn’t let me post. I fear what might have happened to Coach T, Alk, Greggersomething , and even Axgrinder, Big Al Stud and some other regulars because I haven’t heard from them lately. I am hopeful they can return since they seem to observe a degree of said political correctness. So for all those offended by my attempts to express my sincere opinions in what I find to be a more interesting and helpful way than some of the other postings here,I am sorry. I have found that freedoms of the press and speech and other libertys that we enjoy on the street must take a backseat to political correctness even if the readers and the Spurs have to pay the price.

  • Jim Henderson

    anonymous
    September 27th, 2010 at 5:59 am

    “It was an attempt at humor that you seemed to find more disturbing than funny.”

    Implying that someone must have a “mental illness” and should be “pitied” because they happen to have a more sophisticated understanding of the game than you does not represent a reasonable attempt at humor, but rather a crude effort (even if unintentional) to lower the status of an opponent that expresses a difference of opinion.

    “I done been throwed off of here once for about a year and for the Spurs sake I don’t want that to happen again. It could have cost them the Chanpionship last year. I tried to warn Ginobili about wearing that glaring white bandage but they wouldn’t let me post.”

    If I didn’t sense a seriousness in the above excerpt I would find it utterly laughable. NO individual post on here has ANY real or direct effect on the Spurs fortunes as a franchise, which includes decisions made by their “training staff”. Talk about “fantasy” trade discussions? Please!

    “I have found that freedoms of the press and speech and other libertys that we enjoy on the street must take a backseat to political correctness even if the readers and the Spurs have to pay the price.”

    Nobody has any interest in censoring people on this blog. The blog’s creators make an effort now and then to keep the blog “clean”, and not too acrimonious, but they certainly don’t unnecessarily restrict a free flow of ideas and viewpoints. And for the most part, I don’t see anything appreciably untoward in your remarks. But because this is a “sports” blog, it only makes sense to stay away from politics and anything with even mildly racial connotations, or unusually insulting language (e.g., “mental illness”). It’s just not the proper forum.

    I objected to your use of “Yankee” for two reasons: (1) It was ineffective in making your point; and (2), it unnecessarily gets “personal” by raising the specter of racial & regional differences that do not serve to advance the discussion at hand, and could indeed offend or incite some people.

    And I objected to your use of the “Southern” vernacular (e.g., his’n, yo’rn) simply because it is generally an ineffective communication device in the 21st century for a large majority of the U.S. population, including for most of us that frequent this blog. I don’t have a personal objection that you use such lingo, but it will detract from your ability to make as effective of a contribution to this blog.

  • Jim Henderson

    SA-eric
    September 26th, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    “I know you guys don’t like trade ideas, but wouldn’t it be cool to get the following players: Nene and Derrick Favors (maybe Timmy’s future replacement). We’d have to give up Tony, McDyess, Tiago, James Anderson, Alonzo Gee (or maybe Curtis Jerrells) , and a couple of draft picks.”

    In my view, you’re giving up too much for Nene & Favors. Favor’s is still unproven, and Nene is not an all-star.

  • Steiny

    Spurs would be mad to pass up on Kirk Penny, this guy has been a leading scorer in the Australian league for 3 seasons, he was the 2nd highest scorer at the world champs behind KD. Dude can flat out play, he can drive to the hole, he has a pull up J, his outside shooting is off the hook and his ability to find the open man is very good. Spurs are nuts if they dont sign this guy!!

  • Jim Henderson

    Steiny
    September 27th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    The problem is we have too many guards already. We’d have to waive somebody, or plan to use Neal or Anderson in Austin? Penny is a solid player for Australia, and probably deserves a spot in the NBA as much as any perimeter player in Europe, but what adjustments to our currently signed players/roster do you make? We certainly don’t need 4 SG’s and 2 combo guards on the active roster. Don’t you agree?

  • rob

    If Penney proves to be better and more reliable than other 2 guards on this team why would the Spurs worry about what to do with those he proves to be better than?

    I would suspect the goal of the team is to keep the best players at their disposal during training camp on the roster for the regular season.

  • Jim Henderson

    rob
    September 28th, 2010 at 4:05 am

    “If Penney proves to be better and more reliable than other 2 guards on this team why would the Spurs worry about what to do with those he proves to be better than?”

    We’ve already given Anderson & Neal guaranteed contracts to give us the same thing that Penney ostensibly would give us (as the 3rd & 4th SG!). Why would we want to pad our payroll unnecessarily? Does anyone truly think that Penney is that much better than Anderson & Neal to justify adding him to our roster? It’s not like Penney is an unknown quantity. He’s 30 years old and has been playing high-quality ball for Australia for years. I’d rather spend the salary (we’re right at the luxury tax line) on areas of need, like SF or even a 6th big. And as I said, “unproven NBA talent” to fill a 3rd/4th spot at SG is not a top need of ours.

  • rob

    Jim Henderson

    “Does anyone truly think that Penney is that much better than Anderson & Neal to justify adding him to our roster?”

    I can’t tell you what to think and we don’t know until training camp begins and preseason has started who the better player(s) may be. But if a player comes into the team and performs better than even a “guaranteed” player already on the roster…I think the Spurs would find a way to trade such a player or even let that player sit if a player proves to be better than named player. And I don’t think named player would be Anderson who I think in this situation might be asked (and trained) to play SF.

    And if that be the case…there would be no need to sign another SF as b/u.

    Sometimes you just have to let things play out with who you have before jumping into a decision of who you don’t have. And I believe this staff feels they have a lot of intangibles they have to view first before making another decision on who they don’t have because they just might have a good combination to use with who they do have.

    Give SOME credit…or at least some leeway to the staff at who they’ve brought in before assuming what they’ve done ISN’T what’s best for the team at this time.

  • Jim Henderson

    rob
    September 28th, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    “But if a player comes into the team and performs better than even a “guaranteed” player already on the roster…I think the Spurs would find a way to trade such a player or even let that player sit if a player proves to be better than named player. And I don’t think named player would be Anderson who I think in this situation might be asked (and trained) to play SF.”

    It would help if you could flesh this thinking out a bit more with some details. I’m just trying to come up with some specific reasons why it makes sense to bring Penney in as opposed to bringing in other players that could fill a position of more need (at least from my purview), like SF, or a 4/5.

    “Give SOME credit…or at least some leeway to the staff at who they’ve brought in before assuming what they’ve done ISN’T what’s best for the team at this time.”

    I’m sure the staff has their reasons for bringing Penney in (we could speculate on that), and I’m not “assuming” otherwise. I’m simply stating that I don’t really understand the logic, given that we’ve already committed guaranteed money to a very similar player (Neal), and the fact that we already have about 85-90 minutes (out of 96) committed to three players at the two guard positions (TP, Hill, Manu), not to mention our number one pick, (Anderson), who’s natural position is at the SG. So if I were to “speculate”, it’s possible that the Spurs are not entirely confident that Neal can get the job done as a reserve SG in case of injury. And as stated previously, to me it just seems like it would make more sense to bring in a legitimate guy for a 6th big, like Boone or Mbenga, for example (Cousin is obviously an Austin consideration). As far as a SF, bringing in Bobby Simmons does make sense to me. He and Jarvis Hayes were on my list as available possibilities for a veteran to fill our back-up SF role. I hope he shows flashes of his old self.

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