Forget that Sixers Game, How ‘Bout the Gasol ‘Rumor?’

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There’s not much to glean from the Spurs’ 100-75 win over the 76ers on Monday night. That Philly clusterf*** full of undrafted players might look like an NBA team a year or two from now, but that roster situation is nowhere near anything that might resemble competitive on a nightly basis. (How did they almost beat the Rockets the other night?) So let’s talk about something more fun.

Kawhi Leonard’s contract situation was the dominant point of discussion around the Spurs as the NBA tipped off its 2014-15 regular season in late October. As you surely know by now, the two sides did not come to an agreement by the Oct. 31 deadline, sending Leonard into his fourth year without an extension and the prospect of restricted free agency as part of his upcoming summer plans.

However, while the idea that things could go horribly awry and the Spurs could lose their Finals MVP to another suitor is something that weighs heavily on the minds of some, opting not to lock Leonard in to a long-term maximum contract — the going price for his services — is absolutely the smart move at this juncture (as I wrote about here), and it sounds like Kawhi understands the game plan going forward.

And it’s good that he does, because its execution is vital to the immediate success of the franchise if we are indeed witnessing a team on the doorstep of a major identity change.


A few weeks after writing the aforementioned piece on Leonard, the inimitable Zach Lowe of Grantland published an extensive piece covering several different extension situations around the league. He reiterated the potential concerns and risks in waiting to lock up the lanky lockdown defender before expounding on the situation at hand: What if the Spurs created enough space to pursue Marc Gasol should Tim Duncan retire?

Naturally, in today’s hyperactive, transaction-hungry world of NBA consumption, this idea started to spread, even as ¹rumor-mill fodder in some places: If Duncan and Manu Ginobili retire at the end of the current season, the Spurs could take advantage of Leonard’s ~$7.23-million cap hold by first signing a max-caliber free agent with the available salary space, then using Kawhi’s Bird Rights to sign him to a long-term deal. By allowing the deadline for 2011 draft-class extensions to pass, this is exactly the strategy San Antonio has decided to employ, but it’s not going to be as easy as it may seem on the surface.

¹Side note: Any headline that reads something like “Report: Spurs Pursue Marc Gasol” is not a report, it’s speculation. Pure, out-of-the-butt speculation that’s easy to create. If Tim Duncan retires, why wouldn’t the Spurs — or any team with big-man needs and cap space for that matter — explore their options when it comes to one of the NBA’s best centers? It’s like speculating that once that hole in the crotch of your jeans becomes just a little bit too noticeable, the responsible course of action beyond patching it up would be to buy a new pair of pants. Gasol has publicly made it known he’s happy in Memphis, the Grizzlies are currently atop the Western Conference, and the Spurs sure as hell aren’t going to be making their future plans known.

First of all, Duncan and Ginobili have to call it quits before any of this is possible, and that’s anything but a forgone conclusion. If they do decide to stick around, they’d likely eat up enough payroll to make the dream of offering a free agent a max deal an unrealistic one. Instead, the Spurs would shift their focus to the offseason of 2016 and beyond, when the new television deal kicks in and the salary cap blows its lid. And, hey, this is a possibility. If the two future Hall-of-Famers feel they can keep bringing the band back together for Finals runs, then more power to them.

Let’s assume, for this scenario, they’ll play out their contracts this year and mosey off into the sunset or car shop or whatever. That would leave the Spurs with ~$40.7 million in guaranteed salary, including the qualifying offers for both restricted free agents, Leonard and Cory Joseph, which aren’t actually guaranteed. Most projections have the salary cap at around $68 million for the 2015-16 season, so we’re just going to use that as a theoretical mark for now.

But all that salary space you see is a mirage. Before the Spurs would be able to do anything in free agency, they’ll have to deal with their own roster first. Even if Duncan and Ginobili retire and their salaries disappear, the addition of the team’s active cap holds will nudge their payroll snugly against the cap at ~$65.6 million. That would leave only about $2.4 million to work with in unrestricted free agency, so clearly there is work to be done beforehand.

And what exactly do the Spurs want to do with that roster? There are only five guaranteed contracts on the roster (again, Leonard and Joseph are RFAs), and you expect a sixth spot to belong to Kawhi, so that leaves nine spots available. Without Manu, don’t you need to retain Danny Green and Marco Belinelli? Speaking of Joseph, is he worth re-signing when Patty Mills is already locked up, or is this is last year in a Spurs uniform? What the hell do you do with Aron Baynes, Jeff Ayres, Austin Daye, and Matt Bonner?

The obvious priority in terms of incumbent free agents is Leonard, who will almost assuredly command a max deal worth around $16 million. The second priority, though, is Green. He’s been vital to this iteration of the Spurs, and losing him on top of Ginobili’s retirement would be pretty brutal. For most guys in that starter-level 3-and-D mold seem to be going in the $8-million range, and I think that’s a generous starting point in terms of what the Spurs’ shooting guard is worth. But San Antonio owns his Bird Rights as well, so it can go over the cap to sign him, but his cap hold is actually about $400K more than Leonard’s. Between the two, we’re looking at roughly $15 million in holds, which is a pretty decent chunk of change, but not nearly as high as it would’ve been had the Spurs gone ahead and extended Leonard (~$23-24 million).

But here’s the deal: If the Spurs want to clear max space in order to entice a major free agent, theoretically, they won’t have much wiggle room if they choose to re-sign both Green and Leonard. Realistically, they’d only be able to sign one more player for anything more than the minimum — perhaps Belinelli starting around $3 million — and still, that would leave them with only eight players on the roster before heading into free agency.

Even if the Spurs were able to lure a max player to San Antonio, would they be comfortable bringing him to town, locking in Green and Leonard, and piecing together the remaining roster using the Mid-Level Exception (assuming they stay far enough below the luxury-tax apron with the Leonard/Green deals in place) and by signing other players to minimum deals? Would they break up that cap space on multiple players and make Kawhi their one max-contract guy? It will be interesting to watch, especially considering the fact that there will be a team or two out there who will come after Leonard with one of these nasty Chandler-Parsons-type contracts to try and lure him away or ²force the Spurs’ hand.

²Remember, in order to make it all work, San Antonio has to use up its cap space BEFORE re-signing Leonard to a max deal. That means there will be a stretch of time during which Kawhi is waiting idly by while his team constructs the rest of the roster. The Spurs can still offer him more than anyone, and he has the ability to refuse any other offer sheet while he waits on R.C. Buford to deliver the contract, but there will be temptations from other suitors in the mean time. Will he wait it out, or will he jump at an offer from another team (perhaps similar to Chandler Parsons’) that will essentially max him out short-term and give him the ability to opt out in a couple of years? Again, he said he’d like to stay, but tones can change when a pile of money is sitting in front of you.

The complicated matter in all of this remains the unstable future of the impending salary-cap spike. Players could be in a position where they would benefit greatly by signing a short-term deal next summer and re-entering free agency a year or two later for a much larger payday; and until the logistics are worked out, teams are going to be operating in an unfamiliar environment. The NBA’s offseason whirlwind is going to get nuttier before it stabilizes, and depending what happens with Duncan and Ginobili next summer, San Antonio will be right in the thick of it.


  • Bachmann Sausage Roll Starship

    I’m confused about the worry over a Parsons-esque contract. I think it’s at least a 50-50 bet that Cuban will hit Leonard with a similarly structured deal. As much as they like ex-Spurs players, imagine if they got one who could actually play.

    But, correct me if I’m wrong, can’t San Antonio then just offer him a normal max deal? Houston didn’t want to top Dallas’ two-year contract with a third player option because of their own championship timeline and desire to maintain financial flexibility, and the Rockets didn’t want to pay Parsons a max five-year deal.

    In Leonard’s case, assuming the Spurs want to pay Leonard a five-year max deal, isn’t that more than a two-year with a third player option? Doesn’t that meet the restricted free agency requirement of matching or beating other teams’ offers? If that’s the case, what is the worry over a Parsons-esque contract?

  • Graham

    Rampant speculation I’ve heard is Philadelphia pulling the trigger. They got plenty of cap room and no pressing need to use it. Brett Brown OBVIOUSLY knows firsthand what kind of player Kawhi is, and they absolutely would have a guy who’s young and has proven chops to lead the team once they do get all the talent ready to go. It makes all the sense in the world to take a Hail Mary shot at Leonard for them.

    If the Spurs match, it’s no loss to them, they were planning on doing nothing with their cap space anyway.

  • SDub

    I highly doubt that the Spurs will let the Kawhi situation reach a Parsons-esque situation. I expect that Pop & RC will be onto Kawhi as soon as they can, tell him straight up what contract they have for him and ask him to hold off signing until other pieces are in place. Offers from other teams only become a problem if Kawhi actually signs them, and since the Spurs can offer more $ than any other team, that shouldn’t be an issue.
    Where it becomes problematic is if Kawhi and his agent want to set up for a max deal under the new salary cap structure in a couple of years. If they only want a 2 year deal and the Spurs don’t want to play ball, then he could sign a 2 year deal with someone else and force the Spurs hand.
    Also, why go after Gasol when the Spurs have Splitter and could target one of the free agent power forwards like LaMarcus Aldridge, Kevin Love, Paul Millsap and Greg Monroe. Spurs would still have to deplete their bench depth significantly in order to make it happen, but I see those players, particularly Monroe, as viable options for the Spurs if Timmy does actually retire.

  • Jonny from Brooklyn

    This is true only if the player SIGNS the contract, no? In such a situation, wouldn’t the Spurs simply say “Don’t sign, and in a week we’ll offer you a deal that’s more money and more years,” which only they would be able to do as the team that drafted him?
    This is what seems overlooked in the Kawhi analysis and mentions of a potential “Parsons” situation. Parsons signed the deal and his team didn’t want to match. There’s no contract the Spurs wouldn’t match for Kawhi, and since Kawhi (unlike Parsons) is a max player, Kawhi and his agent must know that waiting for the Spurs to tender their offer is far and away in his best interests .

  • Graham

    I completely agree, I’m just saying how this works. A team can offer a contract that is exceedingly kawhi friendly that the spurs wouldn’t offer, like a 4 year with a player option after 2, that would make kawhi think long and hard about signing. Having that player option is a huge deal, so he could opt out right when the cap goes through the roof and get more money then, if the situation in San Antonio deteriorates, or even just to get a payday boost from that revenue spike. His max would be higher then, rather than if we had him on the 5 year max. A team may throw that short contract out there knowing the spurs match just to get a second shot in a couple of years.

    The odds of all this are low, but I definitely see how it could go down.

  • Graham

    I’m pretty sure the spurs are targeting either Horford or Milsap and are keeping that on the down low, actually. Horford isn’t a FA, but they could use that room to trade for him and extend him maybe. Depends on Atlanta.

  • DorieStreet

    I don’t see what players the Spurs have on their roster that Hawks GM Ferry and Coach Bud covet enough to trade Horford.

  • DorieStreet

    I believe Aldridge has stated he wants to remain with the Blazers; and it’s wait and see about Love - whether a deal gets worked out with his new team before next summer.
    I can’t help to think there’s truth in the Spurs targeting Gasol- perhaps preventing a repeat of several years ago when he was swapped for his older brother to the Lakers.

  • Governmentname

    There is a disgruntled center that want out of Brooklyn & his name is Brook Lopez. His new coach Lionel Hollins is an old school coach who thinks Lopez is soft b/c he’s a mediocre rebounder for his size & is on minutes restriction b/c he’s injury prone. RC/Pop can probably land him in exchange for Tiago/Diaw. His offensive game is very similar to post-prime Timmay & although not a great defender, he’s a decent rim protector plus Pop will accommodate his minutes restrictions. Then sign Millsap to be Diaw’s replacement, Millsap along w/ Kawhi can take care of the boards.

    FYI: Lopez will be on the last year of his contract thus if he get injured or it just doesn’t work out then RC/Pop can let him walk & use the cap space on the class of 2016 FAs. Tiago is as injury prone as Lopez & Diaw is only going to regress thus I don’t think it’s a huge gamble.

  • Buyao

    You forget to take the ball distribution ability into account, Tiago and Boris both possess excellent high/low post passing skills, while Millsap’s probably mediocre at best, and don’t even mention Lopez’s. Our gameplan would have to go through some huge changes if this happened.

  • Tyler

    Again, it’s easy for Kawhi to say, “Sure, I’ll wait it out and then you can sign me last for a max deal” until another team puts a max deal like Parsons on the table. From the players perspective, given where the cap is going (much much higher), it’s not in his best interest to sign a long term deal.

    Given the current environment, If you were simply looking at how a player can maximize his earnings, it would be by signing short term deals (2-3 year deals). This allows you to re-up under under a larger total cap #.

    Again, the Spurs will match any potential offer thrown at Kawhi, even a Parsons-esque deal. It’s just that the terms might not be the most favorable to SA.

  • Tyler

    I don’t think it really matters who plays PF or C for SA. In many ways, they’re interchangeable. I think the idea of positions has largely been pushed aside in today’s NBA. I think teams increasingly view roster construction more through the lens of skillsets, rather than having a certain amount of C’s, PF, PG’s, etc.

    And truthfully, Splitter can play with any other big that can shoot from the high post. Likewise, Gasol, Horford and Aldridge can mesh with just about anyone And I doubt Monroe gets a look from SA - he is just so bad defensively. We’ll see though. I’m not remotely convinced TD will retire - I think he loves playing too much.

  • SDub

    If Spurs land Horford I would be ecstatic, but its not happening this summer, maybe the following year when he hits free agency, Spurs just don’t have the assets to get a player like Horford unfortunately.

  • SDub

    Aldridge has said that he wants to stay with the Blazers, but didn’t sign the max extension they offered. All I know is that he will be an unrestricted free agent and always seems to save some of his best games for when he plays the Spurs, its almost like he wants to show Pop how good he is.

  • Bachmann Sausage Roll Starship

    I don’t think that’s how a true max contract works. Per a Zach Lowe column from a few weeks ago, a true max contract is a percentage of the cap, so if the cap goes up, a max salary would go up alongside it. It’d be in Kawhi’s interest to get a true max at five years guaranteed, if that offer is on the table.

    The danger is maybe in the timing. If a team offers Kawhi a Parsons deal in the first minute of free agency, then I think the Spurs have a limited window to match, but that probably only applies if Kawhi signs it right away.

  • WSSNW

    No its not a sliding contract. Its a percentage of the cap AT THE TIME IT IS SIGNED. If and when the cap goes up the max contact does not automatically go up. You miss-read the Zach Lowe column. Sorry for the caps but you can’t underline on this site.

  • WSSNW

    Agreed. People have to remember that Parsons was told that if they sign Melo, or Bosh that he and Jeremy Lin are gone. There was no incentive for him to help the Rockets out by waiting to sign that deal. In fact just the opposite. He said he was offended that they thought that they didn’t already had a big three (himself, Howard, Hardin) and that if thats the way they felt he was happy to take a mx deal anywhere except Houston.
    The Spurs are not dumb enough to do that with Kawhi. They are going to Kawhi and lay out their plan. So if he hears no news he knows whats happening behind the scenes. He knows they are not bleeping with him.

  • WSSNW

    One nugget I would like to throw on this interesting post. Anderson. A lot of who they pursue will depend on the development of Anderson. Right now I’m a little worried. He has zero pressure and yet he’s not really taking advantage of the few minutes he gets. If he can put it all together then the Belinelli, Green discussion becomes interesting. Now those guys get reasonable offers from the Spurs and if someone try to overpay them they Spurs can (not saying they will) let them walk, If Anderson is still struggling you might have to pay more than you want to keep one or both of those guys.

  • Governmentname

    Anderson could be a Shaun Livingston type player if he develops a respectable post-up game otherwise he’s still a project. As far as Danny, Aaron Affalo would be an upgrade over Danny if Affalo is willing to sacrifice a couple of millions to play for the Spurs. Otherwise, a combo of Gerald Green & Cory Brewer can hold the forte if some GM offers Danny/Belinelli a poison pill contract. Kevin Martin could also be had via a sign-and-trade.

  • Governmentname

    Well the ENTIRE gameplan would have to be revamped on BOTH ENDS when Tim/Manu retire but Lopez/Millsap are skilled bigmen who can aid in the transition.

  • Bachmann Sausage Roll Starship

    Ok, thanks. I also could have understood without either.

  • Tyler

    No, it’s just a % of the cap # that particular year. The salary doesn’t change in subsequent years if/when the cap changes. My hunch is Kawhi won’t technically get a max contract, but it will be so close to the max figure that it’s irrelevant (this is what happened with Parsons).

    Timing is the biggest risk - Kawhi signs an offer sheet early, it might not be the cap friendliest deal (shorter contract, player options, etc) and the Spurs have less time to sign other FA’s.

  • DorieStreet

    Aldridge is a Dallas native and ex-Longhorn hoopster-I always assume he (and other NBAers with a similar background) get up for games in Texas/ against the Texas teams.
    But who knows-you could be right—Aldridge may want to return home (so to speak) and continue his career with the best-run NBA franchise.

  • WSSNW

    No one ever signs one of those early offer sheets poison pill deals etc and stays with their team. Its basically a signal to your team ‘I don’t want to play here’. If the lines of communication remain open and the relationship remains good then player usually knows up front ‘hey we need to sign these other guys but here are the terms of the deal we’re offering you, you just can’t sign it yet’. Usually the agent will have the deal hammered out too. 50-60 deals get done every off season and people are focused on one Parsons deal. 3 seasons ago it was the Jeremy Lin deal that was like that. These situations are rare yet all everyone wants to talk about is what if that happens with Leonard. Really?

  • WSSNW

    In what world would Kevin Martin could be had in sign-and-trade? “Planet Spurs-Fan”?

  • Governmentname

    He only makes 6mill so if they want Belly then the RC can sign Belly & trade him to Minny for K-Mart who can become Manu’s replacement by default. Considering Minny drafted Levin & Wiggins I don’t think Martin is going to be a starter for that long. Belly is more suited to be a bench player than Martin who I’m sure would want to play for a contender at this point of his career.

  • WSSNW

    Why do you think this is good deal? I’ll tell you why, because Martin is superior player to Belinelli. So they don’t have TVs in Minnesota? Why do fans always come up with these scenarios that involve ripping the other team off. As if you’re the only one who realizes how good Martin is and Minnesota has no idea. Because they drafted Levin and traded for Wiggins? Right because you don’t need good players coming off the bench. You’re right Martin is useless to them now!

  • Tyler

    You’re probably right - this is all to do about nothing. Again, the real risk is Kawhi being tempted by a max offer with a player option after year 2 or so. Based on the fact that SA has always seemed to have good relationship with their FA’s, it’s probably not likely this happens.

    Also working in SA’s favor - no potential contract can be a “poison pill” deal. SA simply doesn’t have enough guaranteed $ on the books in the future.

  • Tyler

    I could be wrong, but I think I remember reading something about how he didn’t necessarily like the idea of returning home….too many distractions, pressure, etc. I think was the gist of the article….or I could be totally making this up - I can’t remember.

  • Governmentname

    Guys like Martin (vets who have already made money but have never won a chip) aren’t going to be happy coming off the bench for a lotto team. Meanwhile, Belly is still looking for his first big contract & won’t mind coming off the bench for a lotto team…….it’s that simple. Why would Minny want to hold Martin hostage if he doesn’t want to be there?……Just look at Diaw w/ the Bobcats, Ben Gordon w/ the Pistons, Granger w/ Philly & AK47 w/ the Nets.

  • WSSNW

    If Martin isn’t as good as his stats suggest ( a preposterous idea. Who’s putting up his stats? The Easter Bunny?) then why wouldn’t he be happy coming off the bench. Wouldn’t he say “I’m really not as good as my stats, I should just be happy coming off the bench”. Right, I forgot, only you have a TV. Only you now he’s not as good as his stats. He thinks he’s great and therefore doesn’t want to come off the bench. If only he knew as much about basketball as you then he would know this and just be happy coming off the bench.
    Lots of “vets who have already made money” come off the bench all the time. Go look at the roster of the lottery teams (not OKC their record is temporary) and you will see vets coming off the bench. Last years lottery teams where the Bucks, 76, Jazz, Celtics, Lakers, Kings Hornets.
    What makes you think Belinelli wants to come off the bench for a lottery team? There are a many places he can go to get paid and still be in winning situation. He had opportunities the last time he was a free agent. If he leaves its not going to be for a lottery team. Its that simple.
    What makes you think Martin does not want to be there? You are a mind reader now? Diaw, Gordon, Granger, Ak47 had all their teams try to trade them and no one was interested in giving up anything for them. Thats not the case with Martin. He’s traceable and they can get a lot more for him than Belinelli, If they trade him to make room for Wiggins then they will get back a completely different position. That would be the good basketball move.

  • Governmentname

    Dude the vets on lotto teams are mostly on one year contract & are simply looking to maximize their playing time so they could pad their stats for contract negotiations. The rest are locker room cancers thus had to settle for lotto teams. Besides, Boris/Gordon/Ak47 quit on their teams thus they weren’t attractive trade bait b/c they weren’t even trying when they were on the court. Just look at a guy like Monta Ellis who took a major pay-cut to sign w/ Dallas b/c he was tried of losing & wanted to play for a contender

  • Carlo Duroni

    You forget one thing: if Belinelli was preferring money to “great play/teams”, he would’ve stayed in Europe, where a guy like him can earn much more than he earns now.
    He suffered a lot in his years with GS, while enjoyed so much playing (and learning) for big teams/coaches like CHI/Thibs and SA/Pop.
    I’d bet he’s willing to stay in SA as long as possible (at least until SA is well coached and a title contender.)

  • guest

    ^That was Chris Bosh

  • WSSNW

    You basically name about 30 NBA players but still maintain that it doesn’t happen. What do you have to do? Get up to 90% of NBA players before you admit you’re wrong? What a clown. Get back in your tiny car and drive away.

  • Governmentname

    I made the mistake of debating w/ an idiot otherwise every point I made is backed up w/ facts while you are posting w/ your feelings. Have a nice life idiot!

  • Suave Groove