El Conclusión: San Antonio Spurs 107, Memphis Grizzlies 97


107 San Antonio Spurs Memphis Grizzlies 97 Final
Recap | Box Score
Tim Duncan, C 35 MIN | 10-15 FG | 8-11 FT | 12 REB | 0 AST | 28 PTS | -1

The Spurs went to Duncan down low several possessions in a row to start the fourth quarter. Old school.

Kawhi Leonard, SF 18 MIN | 2-5 FG | 2-2 FT | 5 REB | 1 AST | 6 PTS | -4

Struggled in the first half, much like he did against LA, but played with more aggression in the second half.

DeJuan Blair, F 12 MIN | 1-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 1 AST | 2 PTS | -5

Didn’t start the second half and didn’t play at all in the third and fourth quarters. Pop said after the game that he started Diaw in order to get Boris acclimated to the team more. No mention of Blair not making an appearance.

Tony Parker, PG 35 MIN | 5-12 FG | 3-5 FT | 1 REB | 9 AST | 13 PTS | +10

A bit of a bounce-back game, then again it shouldn’t be too hard for an All-Star to improve on last night’s performance. There was a stretch in the second half where Parker blew a layup and let a jumpshot slip completely out of his hands. After that, Parker appeared to get down on himself and didn’t show the leadership tendencies that he’d improved upon so much this season.

Daniel Green, G 24 MIN | 3-9 FG | 2-2 FT | 4 REB | 0 AST | 10 PTS | +2

Not a great shooting night from two but he knocked down a couple of 3s and was solid on defense. He did, however, blow a layup in the same bad stretch that Tony Parker had.

Stephen Jackson, SG 24 MIN | 2-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 2 AST | 5 PTS | +11

I feel similar about Jackson’s night as I do Green’s, although Jackson didn’t shoot as well. Jack did hit a 3 early in the game as a part of back-to-back triples with Manu.

Matt Bonner, PF 22 MIN | 3-8 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 1 AST | 7 PTS | +22

Shot poorly from 3 in the first quarter (0-4) but battled Randolph hard on defense and took a head on collision from Marc Gasol like a champ. Sort of.

Boris Diaw, PF 14 MIN | 2-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 5 REB | 1 AST | 5 PTS | -7

Started the second half for Blair and knocked down a 3-pointer. Diaw looked lost on offense at times in the first half though, possibly necessitating his insertion into the lineup in the second half.

Manu Ginobili, SG 30 MIN | 4-9 FG | 11-11 FT | 6 REB | 4 AST | 20 PTS | +11

A vintage line from Ginobili and he was the emotional leader on the floor down the stretch while Tony Parker battled frustrations. Made plays that we expect from Manu Ginobili when the Spurs win.

Gary Neal, PG 13 MIN | 2-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 7 PTS | +0

Gary Neal is not back to health yet. I saw him in the locker room after the game with a couple types of medication and when Danny Green asked him if he felt any better, he just shook his head and left the locker room. Hit his only 3 and made a nice off-balance shot on a drive to the hoop. Solid considering his condition.

Tiago Splitter, C 13 MIN | 2-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 0 AST | 4 PTS | +11

Quiet night for Splitter thanks to the performance and workload from Tim Duncan. Battled when he was on the court but didn’t see a lot of time.

Five Things We Saw

  1. There was a dude with a customized Spurs jersey in the crowd with the last name F U Haters. I contemplated walking over to him and shaking his hand.
  2. I get the impression Patty Mills is still not in NBA condition. He works out with one of the Spurs’ assistant strength and conditioning coaches before the game and does a lot of stretches. This is almost two hours before the game, long before you see guys getting stretched out just ahead of the national anthem. At times you can see him doing these in the huddle during timeouts.
  3. The ball movement was much better in this game than the last. San Antonio got back to the movement that gets teams completely off balance where the ball goes inside, then back out, then driving in and back out to the perimeter for an open shot.
  4. This Grizzlies team, while good and dangerous in areas that can hurt the Spurs, simply doesn’t scare me as much as last year’s team. Losing Darrell Arthur to a torn Achilles hurts, but so does trading Sam Young and not re-signing Shane Battier. One of the biggest reasons for Memphis’ success last year was the physicality of their perimeter players and that wasn’t there tonight. Although, Tony Allen did sit out with an injury.
  5. Spurs were beat on the boards 26-18 in the first half but finished tied at 41 when all was said and done.
  • Justinray813

    these stats are from last nights game idiot

  • observerfirstfansecond


  • spursinoh

    @1646c5458ab217c0dba7ebd2b8060672:disqus Lets settle down and realize that these guys are running this blog for us to enjoy and not act like a jackass when there’s a technical problem

  • Colin

     Idiot.  Really?

  • Matthew Sloan

     Wow, what a douchey thing to say….

  • http://twitter.com/nudityJ Nudity J. Fandango

    Playing these guys is a lot easier this season without those physical defensively focused wings as Andrew mentioned.  

    I know this is terrible and I’m not trying to start a war, but what in the hell has happened to Dejauns rebounding? It’s at the point now where i’m happier to have Bonner on the floor because he actually boxes out better than DJB and plays team D.  We actually worked our way back to a tie in the rebounding without Blair on the floor at all in the second half.

    Boris picked up 5 boards and Splits 4, Manu had 6 particularly strong boards including a bunch at the end of the game when Memphis were trying to make a run.

    As theghostofJH has pointed out previously this season his rebounding has taken a huge hit.  I went and did some research myself with all the woes we’ve had and found that to my surprise It’s fallen off an absolute cliff.

    Out of a possible 83 Power Forwards listed on Hollingers stats page, he is tied for 61st with Josh Mc Roberts at 16% flat of all available rebounds.

    Thats behind both Boris, Matt Bonner AND Kawhi Leonard.

    Last season he was at 13th with 22.9%, the season before that (his rookie for gods sake) he was at 7th with 25.1%.  

    He was the second best rebounder overall at the PF slot just behind Kevin Love his rookie year at 21%.  This season he is 27th overall at 14.8%.  

    From 7th to 13th to 61st defensively (where we really need it vs these monster front lines)?  And from 2nd to 27th overall?

    Is it effort?  Maybe complacency?

    We need Dejaun to rebound.  We are a better team if we can rely on him to hoover up boards all over the place.  Second chance points are something this team can’t afford to give away.  I feel like sending him a tweet begging the guy to go back to whatever rebounding mantra he had going into his rookie season.

  • http://twitter.com/nudityJ Nudity J. Fandango

    Uncalled for buddy.  

    These guys put a huge effort into supplying quality editorial for absolutely nothing.

  • junierizzle

    Where was this intensity last night? That’s all I’m asking for. If you’re going to lose, lose playing like this.

    Great bounce back win. I think they needed this one for their own psyche.

  • Justinray813

    im sick of fans that just spew negativity! of course we are not a tall team or great defending the post, but guess what… we have 2 bigs that can create for themselves offensively. thats impressive! the thunder cant say the same. our perimeter players are top notch and we have big wings that can lockdown the opponent at any given time. We have an elite point gaurd that can score and dish!
    if you let last nights game change your oppinion of this team to be anything other than a legit contender, then you are a SOFT FAN! it was easy to see that bynum is just ahead of anybody in the nba at center, also that the spurs did not show up. nothing else to it. bynum is better than blair, bonner, tiago and diaw by a long shot and timmy by inches at this point. the spurs on the other hand are better than the lakers, grizzlies, thunder and mavericks.

    sorry about the idiot comment :)

  • theghostofjh

    I’ll take the win. Obviously an upgrade over last nights debacle. But I have to tell you, our oldest player saved our ass tonight. Tremendous leadership and resolve shown by Duncan in this game. In the key third quarter he carried us on his back, and then again, made most of the key plays down the stretch. Parker is still in a bit of a funk (7 turnovers), but played with more passion tonight. Manu looked better in a 4th quarter spurt when TD was resting, and hit all his free throws down the stretch. Good comeback on team rebounds in the second half. Diaw and the wings chipped in, as is necessary against a team like Memphis.

  • http://twitter.com/nudityJ Nudity J. Fandango

    TP worries me.  He was looking like finishing a season strong for the first time in three years, and suddenly he is running a little low.

  • Deeds130

    For my part, I was more responding to any fan who was shocked by last night’s loss. How could it be a surprise when LA blew us out last year also. My opinion hasn’t changed… as fun as this offense is to watch most nights (and I do like me some ball movement), I always respect “tough, hard-nosed basketball.” And it’s irritating to me that Pop doesn’t coach DJB in that direction, and play him and Splitter more minutes in order to develop that option for the postseason. Poor rebounding and mediocre D paired with 100 point games haven’t sold me yet, even though I enjoy the wins. The Spurs have always been able to beat most teams, it’s the league’s few contenders that make a disquieting yardstick.

  • Justinray813

    really? complaining that duncan dominated? WOW

    our young guys saved our asses all year long, this is what you should want from duncan in the final stretch of the season…

    sitting parker two games ago was a BAD idea!

    manu is looking FANTASTIC

    green is just the perfect roll player and jackson’s defense was spectacular


  • Justinray813

    thanks for fixing the stats

  • Deeds130

    Yes, and this was probably our playoff rotation tonight. No Patty Mills, for whatever that’d be worth. Obviously no TJ Ford. Tony has time to get his head right before it really matters, but he’ll need to lock in and have a carreer post-season, or Manu will have a very heavy load.

  • RawJa777

    Tim had a nice game, worthy of the A+, but can someone, ANYONE, shout at Pop to give Tiago Splitter more playing time?!?! Not sure where the C- came from Andrew, we must’ve been watching a different game.  I saw him play an incredibly impactful game and I am STUNNED that he only got 13 minutes.  In that time he had a +11 (EVERY bit of it earned…his screen and roll game at the end of the 3rd quarter with Manu Ginobili ultimately won the game for us), rebounded, and defended Zach Randolph very wel.  Why oh why won’t Pop take a hint from the Doc Rivers moving KG to the 5 and mix up where Tim plays so that he can get Tiago Splitter on the court with him?  Their games are NOT the same and Tim just doesn’t play the screen and roll as well as Tiago every time down the court.  Let Tiago do most of the work in the screen and roll and set Tim up down low.  Then when Tiago rolls have Tim move on the weak side to the top of the key to stretch the floor with his jump shot. These guys can learn to work together. Tiago’s is like the energizer bunny and he wears down opposing big men with his constant movement and his knowledge of how to get ballhandlers mismatched on his man. 13 minutes is…just…a waste.

  • Lvmainman

    In a 7 game series, against a quality opponent like the Grizzlies, how many times can Duncan provide a game like tonight?

    I’m thinking no more than 4 at the most. Why isn’t Splitter getting more playing time as the Spurs only other legit big? Baffling to me.

  • theghostofjh

    As our team is currently constructed, playing TD with Tiago much at all weakens the TEAM as a whole. Splitter is absolutely necessary to anchor our second team defensively in the paint. That said, in close outs (like, the last 5-6 minutes) against a team like Memphis, as in tonight’s game, I see NO reason to have Bonner (with his lousy inside presence on both ends) in the game, along with his up and down outside game. And by the way, Splitter should be consistently getting more minutes than Bonner (but he’s not). That, I agree with you on.

  • theghostofjh

    ” ….. really? complaining that duncan dominated? WOW – our young guys saved our asses all year long, this is what you should want from duncan in the final stretch of the season…”

    Are you referring to my comment below? If so, I’m not sure what you’re talking about. I was not “complaining” about Duncan having a great game. But the fact is, Duncan is 36 years old. We can’t depend on him in most games of playoff intensity to “carry” the team as he did tonight. Many of our other guys in big games, veterans and young guys alike, are going to have to step up and hit some key shots, make some key plays. And no, our young guys have not “saved our asses all year long”. They’ve made a solid contribution. “Save our asses” or “carry” the team on any kind of regular basis? NO.

  • theghostofjh

    Again, BS grade and comments about Bonner. He hit a couple of shots in the 2nd half – big frickin deal. He “battled Randolph on defense”??? More like, got abused and lit up by Speight’s, and gave Cunningham a wide open 12 foot jumper in the paint, which is exactly where Dante likes to shoot it (or rather, about the only place he likes to score). Plus, he rebounded like crap again. And by the way, if Bonner’s our close out guy in the playoffs, we’re done by the 2nd round at best. Duncan carried Matt’s ass in particular to the victory circle tonight. Don’t count on it most of the time in the playoffs.

  • Guest

    I agree with you. I didn’t think the C- was fair although Tim most definitely deserved an A+. He was incredible. You’re right that it’s not like it’s impossible to play them together since Tiago could do his regular work with the bench but could have an extra 10 minutes or so added to his playing time. Those easy baskets and that quality defense could do a lot to help the team in the playoffs. In my opinion, San Antonio’s slim  chances at a championship will drop to zero if Bonner’s out there with Tim during crunch time. Not to mention we don’t even know if Tiago’s sticking around after free agency next year. I hate to say it since I love the Spurs but if I were his agent I don’t think I’d let him come back since he’s clearly better than a spot minute player and there’s more money and minutes to be had elsewhere…

  • theghostofjh

    “In my opinion, San Antonio’s slim  chances at a championship will drop
    to zero if Bonner’s out there with Tim during crunch time.”


    “I hate to say it since I love the Spurs but if I were his agent I don’t
    think I’d let him come back since he’s clearly better than a spot minute
    player and there’s more money and minutes to be had elsewhere…”Yeah, and as Blair’s agent, he’ll be gone after next year if not traded beforehand. He’s being underutilized, and his minutes get jacked, often for fairly minor and dubious reasons. There’s plenty of teams that would love to get DJB to play a more active role in their rotation, and they would better appreciate and encourage his strengths.

  • Batigoal85

    y are splitter’s minutes going down??    i thought as the season goes, his minutes increase.    we need him to play more with timmy, especially against teams like lakers , memphis  because of his length .      we keep getting killed on the boards, I know we came flat yesterday, and the team didn’t play well.   but we all agree that this year splitter has improved his game and was playing better off. and def. ,  so y don’t we see him paired up with timmy more.    just like how lakers pair bynum and gasol.   we already have players who can space the floor 

  • Guest

    Is Blair a free agent in 2013 as well? I know Splitter is but I thought Blair still had a couple years left. To be honest, I think the problem for Blair is that he’s undersized and he’s listed as a starting 5. He really shouldn’t be out there guarding people like Bynum and Howard but I can’t really blame him for that because that’s not his fault.

    For most teams I would think that he’d either have to be a 4 or a 5 off the bench because either one of those are situations that I think would accent his strengths while minimizing his weaknesses. Used in that kind of a role at about 20 minutes he’d be fine. He’s a nice piece after all. It’d be surprising if Blair didn’t get a raise once his contract’s up. 

    That said, unless some team puts out a ridiculous offer sheet I think the Spurs pay up because Blair’s not very expensive and I don’t see him commanding more than a few million.

    If Lorbek comes over (RIP our frontcourt), I don’t think the Spurs match on Tiago though. And even if Lorbek doesn’t they still might not. Just looking at Splitter’s PER, per-minute production, and advanced stats while also factoring in the lack of bigs who can actually play basketball in the NBA right now, I think he’ll command significantly more than what he’s making at the moment (apx. 3 mill/yr) on the FA market even if he doesn’t improve between now and then. 

    Or at least that’s what seems to make sense financially speaking.

    I wouldn’t blame either Tiago or Blair if they opted to leave though. They haven’t really been put in a position to succeed albeit in different ways.
    Staying in the present, however, I’m actually very very worried about San Antonio’s big rotation in the playoffs. These last few games I think Bonner was the one out there in crunch time and while I know it worked out against Memphis, it looks like he’s already started his annual shooting slump which essentially means we’d be playing him for his defense and rebounding. :/At Tim’s age, I don’t think it’s fair to ask him to do everything himself for 30+ minutes/game in the playoffs. Especially if we have to play a team like the Lakers again. Duncan is the man but I’m not convinced he will be able to hold up on both ends through more than one 7 game series like that. He’d probably be wearing down before the second round to be honest.

  • Justinray813

    some of you amaze me with your ridiculous take on games

  • Justinray813

    if you honestly believe that splitter wont get way more minutes in the posteason… then you really have no clue and didnt watch the end of the grizzlies series last year. pop pretty much sat blair and ran with tiago. it was too late at that point though. look how well tiago plays with the limited time he does get. he doesnt really need to get some “burn”. the dude has won in europe and is 26. i bet pop is just being cautious and WILL unleash him later this month. he already knows the system and is a master at the pick n roll, a staple of our offense. come on. STOP THE WORRYING. ITS GONNA BE FUN COME PLAYOFFS. GET READY

  • Len

    Timmy D was a straight up beast last night.  He balled like the true champion he is and refused to let his team lose.  I really enjoyed watching this game last night.  A Duncan classic.

  • Len

    Duncan laid a big egg against the Lakeshow and he vowed he’d be better tongiht.  And boy was he.  He was by far and away the best player on the court last night.  Felt like 2003 out there :)

  • http://www.nba.com/spurs/?tmd=1 TheRealDirtyP1

    Ah, just wouldn’t be a blog post if you weren’t here ragging on Bonner and sticking up for DJB, would it?

    Pop puts Bonner out there for spacing usually. You’re a Spurs fan, you’ve been watching this team long enough to know that. Don’t let your disdain for someone cloud what the team objective is. When Bonner’s not out there, the person in that role does the same thing, whether it’s Jack or Kawhi or whomever. That wing role is important in that A) if the defender stays with the wing there’s more room inside and B) if the defender collapses with the ball the wing is open for a shot.
    As far as DJB goes, the dude’s lack of height and length is hard to overcome in tight games. Give me Bonner as a defender(gasp) over Blair.
    In any case, I’ll trust what Pop decides to do every time. I might not like it when he sits our starters and we lose, but if you haven’t learned by now that there’s a reason to his ways, then I guess you never will.

  • http://www.nba.com/spurs/?tmd=1 TheRealDirtyP1

    Blair is so comparable to Malik Rose, it’s not even funny. Same build and everything. The Spurs let Malik go because the Knicks were willing to overpay. Like you said, if DJB goes somewhere else, he’ll probably come off the bench instead of starting here. I think that’s a chip in negotiations that the Spurs will have over whoever is looking at DJB.
    As far as Splitter goes, the guy is TD’s replacement.
    Honestly, if guys aren’t interested in staying because they don’t like their role, well, bye. Manu’s my favorite Spur of all time and has anyone bought into the system more than him?
    In Pop we trust.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IYOK27SYODWR5EOM2SJLHWK4G4 WAMBO

    I agree love the ball movement last night and the focus to drive the ball and not just fall inlove with the 3 ball or jump shots.  Manu energy last night shows me the guy is almost 100% back which is good for next week pay back againts LA.

    Timmy what can you say about the Best Power Forward Ever! Eat your heart out Shaq!

  • JT

    Parker a B?, 7 turnovers…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IYOK27SYODWR5EOM2SJLHWK4G4 WAMBO

    I can tell after the LA Laker spanking of the Spurs that Timmy, Manu and Parker took it personally and if they stay healthy watch out.  I believe Timmy can produce those numbers in the playoff and Manu is going to be an animal in the playoff. Our little MVP is going to bounch back and continue to grow as we seen him carry the Spurs.

    Captain Jack defense last night was good and Bonner like him or hate him but last night was pretty good, I just hope his shots are there come playoff.  Glad to see Neal back on the floor, I like the way he plays and his deadly shots!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IYOK27SYODWR5EOM2SJLHWK4G4 WAMBO

    As playoff nears, I expect Tiago to get more playing time and specially when Manu is on the floor.


  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IYOK27SYODWR5EOM2SJLHWK4G4 WAMBO

    B or C doesn’t matter what I like is he improved from the LA game knowing last night was againts another Giants and hot team in the middle of the playoff race.

  • http://twitter.com/AaronWatters Aaron Watters

    Manu finally played like the Manu we need for the playoffs. I’m still very concerned about two things:
    1. Defensive Rebounding – we can’t give up so many offensive rebounds, this is an issue that will cost us a game or two in a series.

    2. Free Throws – numbers are skewed in this game because they fouled us so quickly at the end of the game, but we simply weren’t attacking the bucket until late in the 4th quarter.

    Bonus: I got a pic of the guy with the jersey….

  • Swannaldinho

    I think Tiago at least deserves a B for his defense on Zach Randolph. There were times where he completely frustrated Randolph, where after missing the shot Randolph fouled Manu at least twice on rebounds that were not called. The one play that really sticks in my mind is when Randolph made a really quick move to the middle, Tiago was right there with his whole body and hands in the air causing randolph to pull the ball back to try and get a shot off and Manu, because he is Manu came from behind and just stripped it from him, great team defense but created because Tiago played excellent one on one defense. 

  • Bentley

    Duncan showed last night why he is the greatest power forward to ever play this game. After that beating by LA Duncan took it personally as a competitor and it showed. As much as Pop wants to rest Duncan, if it was up to Timmy he would play in every single game because that’s how great of a competitor he is.

    Splitter should play more than he does, I don’t mind him coming off the bench but I do agree that he should close out games.

    As far as Blair is concerned, I don’t think he is a bad player for us, I just would like to see his rebounding improve, but I also just want to see him stop thinking and just play. When he just goes out and plays hard he really adds a new element to the team that we will need in the playoffs

  • http://twitter.com/AaronWatters Aaron Watters

    I really want to see Duncan and Splitter on the floor at the same time against some of these “big” teams but I just don’t see it happening. Pop seems set in the one low block post and one shooting post to spread the floor. I am with you though I like Splitter for us.

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  • Hobson13

    The whole front court rotation (besides Duncan) is an enigma to me.  After 1.5 years, I still don’t understand why Tiago isn’t playing a more cental role on the team.  I have no idea why Bonner (who is not having his best shooting season BTW) is even playing when someone like Diaw (who can stretch the floor and provide more that Matty) sits on the bench.  Blair plays like a beast when he is made a focal point, but then only plays mediocre (most of the time but not all the time) when asked to be a role player.

    In short, I fear front lines like LA and Memphis because I really don’t know what to expect from the majority of these guys.  Duncan only has so many more monster games, but after that who is going to step up?  Who has been given enough consistent playing time to be able to step up during the playoffs? 
    It seems like when one finally gets into a rhythm, Pop cuts their playing time.  I agree with your statement that Pop should play Tiago and Tim for the final 5-6 minutes in the 4th.  It makes sense, but how many times have we actually seen this happen?  Not very many.  Again, nothing about our front court rotation makes sense…

  • Bob

     We could really have used Tiago’s defense on Randolph in the playoffs last year. Dice/Bonner/Blair were horrible at guarding him.

  • Guest

    Oh yeah. Who aren’t the Knicks willing to overpay though? /

    Malik Rose is actually a really great comparison. But yeah, he’d be a real asset off the bench because he’d most likely be able to dominate on offense without having his defensive shortcomings exposed.

    As for Splitter, that could be Pop’s plan but it’s not like he’s a super young guy who came straight out of high school… 

    I don’t know. Manu got minutes that were in line with his abilities although he wasn’t always starting. If Tiago (or even Blair) wanted to leave I honestly wouldn’t hold it against them.

    Pop’s one of the best and he doesn’t make very many mistakes. I just happen to think that this frontcourt rotation and his use of Splitter could be one of the few…

  • theghostofjh

    Solid post.

  • theghostofjh

    Randolph had the best series of his career last year. He would have been a nightmare cover for anyone.

  • theghostofjh

    “1. Defensive Rebounding – we can’t give up so many offensive
    rebounds, this is an issue that will cost us a game or two in a series.”

    I wouldn’t worry about this too much, or focus too much on isolated games. There’s a reason that we’re number one in the NBA in defensive rebound rate.

  • theghostofjh

    WHO are you talking to?!?

  • theghostofjh

    Got any examples, or specifics?

  • theghostofjh

    Yeah, nice post. I agree.

  • theghostofjh

    “Ah, just wouldn’t be a blog post if you weren’t here ragging on Bonner and sticking up for DJB, would it?”

    No, the blog itself would be at least half-way down the road to delusion without my persistent input to redirect it toward reality.

    “Pop puts Bonner out there for spacing usually. You’re a Spurs fan, you’ve been watching this team long enough to know that.”

    The point is not that I don’t know that. The point is that I wholeheartedly disagree with the emphasis put on “Bonner’s spacing”, for very good reasons that I’ve repeatedly described in previous posts.

    “Don’t let your disdain for someone cloud what the team objective is.”

    I don’t have “disdain” for anyone. I’m as objective as they come about ALL the Spurs players, including Bonner, Blair, and Splitter. The bias exists in the author’s of this site, and in many of its commentator’s.

    I’ve argued against much of the rest of your post repeatedly in the past. I won’t spend the time to do it again here. Feel free to consult my comment history on this blog if it strikes your fancy.