Spurs-Lakers pregame chat

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Andrew Kamenetzky of the ESPNLosAngeles.com Lakers blog Land O’ Lakers and I had a email exchange about tonight’s San Antonio Spurs-Los Angeles Lakers tilt. For my end of the conversation, visit Land O’ Lakers. The game tips at 9:30 from the AT&T Center.

1) What is this occasional chatter about a potentially Phil Jackson-less Lakers team?

Funny you should ask, as Steve Springer tackled this question in an exclusive Jerry Buss interview published today on ESPNLosAngeles.com. There’s also an accompanying article. (And with that, material from the mothership site was cross-promoted in a legitimately organic manner! Bosses, please take note!) Because Jackson becomes a free agent after this season, the rumor mill has everything from plans for a forced -and ultimately rejected- pay cut to interest in securing Byron Scott while available to familial divides prompting the lack of closure.
Buss says it’s all a moot point, because Jackson would wait until after the season even if the extension was formally offered. I tend to believe this. Coaches of Phil’s stature and age typically take their time before committing whenever possible and save a spectacular postseason flame out, it’s hard to believe his job security is truly at risk. (If they won a title, it’s borderline impossible to buy.) You never know, particularly in the crazy, nutty world that is the Lakers organization, but my guess is he’ll be back next season.

Similarly, Brian and I also recently conducted a PodKast with Jeanie Buss where family discord rumors were refuted. (More organic cross-promotion! I am GOOD!)

2) Up until very recently, I would chosen Kobe Bryant over any player in the NBA. But now, I would choose LeBron James and, perhaps, Kevin Durant in front of Bryant. Am I crazy, or is Kobe showing signs of decline?

It depends on how you define “decline.” If you’re judging by pure athleticism alone, Kobe clearly isn’t the same player of three years ago. He’d be the first to acknowledge this, and the reality is apparent in ways like not playing above the rim at the same frequency of the “81” season, much less the Three-peat era. He’s 31 with a lot of wear on them tires. Having said that, the guy is hardly Matt Bonner (no offense to either the Spurs faithful or redheads). He remains a pretty sick athlete and hardly a “liability” in this regard.

If I had to guess, the decline you’re referring to, beyond the natural effects of age, is caused by injuries (ankle, back, finger) this season. In particular, his fractured finger, which I think affects Kobe more than he readily admits, and on several levels. His percentage from the field has dropped markedly since the injury. I suspect the bad finger also affects his handle, making it harder at times to create his own shot and avoid turnovers. Defensively, it hurts the ability to physical D and fight through screens. Bottom line, playing with a screwed up finger on your dominant hand is no walk in the daisies.

Mind you, he still gets on absurd shooting rolls, is averaging six APG in March and remains the NBA’s best player with a game on the line, so it’s all relative. Even if Kobe’s in “decline,” we’re not talking about a roll down a particularly steep hill.

3) What are the Lakers’ biggest vulnerabilities? If someone came back from the future and told you the Lakers failed to reach the Finals and made you guess their shortfalls, what would you say?

First, outside shooting. Despite having Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom at their disposal, the Lakers are often inexplicably fond of hoisting treys (10th in the league for launches). Unfortunately, they’re not nearly as fond of actually making them. (34.2%, 20th). When created inside-out through the post, the three-ball often falls with better success. But when created along the perimeter (or in particular, as a reaction to the zone D permanently baffling them), the Lakers might as well be spotting up D.J. Mbenga in the corner, since the end result won’t be much worse than when it’s Jordan Farmar, Derek Fisher, Shannon Brown, etc.

Beyond this, I think the biggest issue is a lack of consistent execution. Don’t let the smooth taste of 52 wins fool you. The Lakers really haven’t developed a steady rhythm this season. And it’s gotten worse as the season’s progressed. They’ve grown increasingly sloppy, whether in regards to running the offense, shot selection, taking care of the ball, consistently playing to their strengths (inside-out, measured pace, etc.) and overall focus. To some degree, I think this is the unavoidable result of injuries (Kobe, Gasol, Ron Artest, Bynum). Shifting lineups have killed the chance to improve off continuity, which I consider an extremely important element. Last season, save Bynum (who they were already used to playing without), the Lakers were largely injury-free, and that’s huge in building towards greatness. Not the case this season, an issue compounded by the immersion of Artest into the system and, frankly, a lack of urgency towards the situation.

It’s so important to head into the playoffs with a steady rhythm, and I question whether enough time remains for the Lakers to discover that flow. Doesn’t mean they still can’t win it all, but life grows considerably more difficult in that scenario.

4) Why has Phil Jackson increasingly drifted away from the triangle offense?

I actually don’t think this is the case. Because Phil is so heavily associated with the triangle and few teams run it, when the Lakers operate outside the system, those sequences tend to stand out like a sore thumb. But the reality is they’ve never been triangular slaves. It’s simply the base for how they operate. The Lakers remain a systematic team. How often they adhere to that system is a situational matter or, frankly, a matter of the players remaining disciplined enough to run it.

  • Gregg Popovich

    Sorry for posting this in the previous comments, but this new article just came up…

    Any suggestions for tonight’s game before I head out of the tunnel for warm-ups? (I’m looking at you BALLHOG, bigballs, et al.) I am thinking up putting Hairston on Kobe to start the fourth–thoughts? Again, more specific advice than “you suck, fix the personnel packages and rotation” would be appreciated. Seriously, guys-I need some help. Plus, if I employ some of your suggestions and we lose anyway, you can’t Monday morning QB me to death.

    Cross your fingers!

    GP

  • junierizzle

    Cheap shot at the Red Rocket.

  • idahospur

    Good discussion. Now……….WIN!

  • David

    Great comment Pop!!!!!!!!

  • bigballs

    @Gregg Popovich

    The post is true to Pop’s arrogance and egomaniac based approach to coaching.

    It is about time that you have asked for some guidance as you have been adrift all season – you are a hall of famer based on past accolades, but you I can grade you know higher than a “D” at this juncture of the season but could very just fail you. After all, it was you who stated that if you could not and did win with the 2009-2010 version of the Spurs, you should be fired – Quotes from very on words.

    1/3 of your squad has quit on you, so you don’t leave me much to work with.

    As for tonight’s game – DNP – Keith Bogus. Don’t even waste minutes on him.

    a) Bring Hairston off the bench as your first fill at the 2 spot for Gino and 5- to 7 minutes at the 3 spot for Jefferson – depending on Jeff is playing – may need Jeff to give me 35+ mins tonight. Dang Pop, this is what I mean, you don’t have a legit body on the bench to really get 3 spot minutes as you decided t let Haislip go. As a result, Jeff forced to play long minutes or have to go small at that spot.

    Can mix and match Mason and give him a few of Gino’s minutes, if he shooting well – play Mason a few more minutes. If not, can’t really play him against the Laker’s as he does not match up well.

    First 4 off the bench should be Blair, with Mahimi first up for McDyss at the 5 spot. Need 20+ minutes tonight from Blair and at least 15+ from Mahimi.

    The SpursNation will be watching tonight to see your personnel packages and rotations tonight.

    Come on hall of famer, coach us to a victory.

  • bigballs

    Coach Pop’s current grade for this season is: D-

    Why? Because the Spurs were picked to contend this year and really challenge the Laker’s in the west. Instead, look at this mess of a team, a team struggling not to be in the draft lottery. A team with no identity, no purpose, no commitment to defense, no commitment to winning.

    In my opinion, the Spur players have played all season with no coach and no real leadership.

    Pop just doesn’t have it anymore as a coach - His run is done.

  • bigballs

    @ Gregg Popovich,

    The line is forming. All Pop poot sniffers to the left, please.

  • Gary

    like all and every one single game of LA, I hope kobe bryant break both his ankle in an electric stairs 5 minutes prior to the game…

  • Gregg Popovich

    bigballs,

    I just checked your comments from my iPhone on the sideline. Hope this doesn’t get me fined by Stern. Not sure if that new policy against texting, etc., applies to coaches…

    Anyway, I will see what I can do. Thanks for the ideas and the constructive criticism.

    P.S. I am TiVo’ing the Celtics game, so don’t tell me who wins.

    GP

  • BALLHOG

    Greg P,

    since you are at the AT&T, rocking the Laker game in house,
    Call security and have them escort Bogans out of the arena, immediately!

  • BALLHOG

    @ Greg P

    B-Balls and I have challenged you to a post game round table. Dont punk out and fail to show…

    Spurs Lakers….

    Hog….

  • Gary

    The last game RMJ is gonna play as a spurs is gonna be one good game in my book

  • John

    Best Popovich quarter interview ever.

    I felt sorry for the poor ESPN Deportes sideline guy.

  • John

    Does anyone else like this three quarter press defense we’ve used this game? We have enough backcourt players I think we should use it more often.

  • BALLHOG

    Game over…

    He proved it….

  • Marknum

    bigballs spelled with a little b,
    Yep, I guess the SPurs need to go out and get them an OJ Bryant, and another con like Artestnutcase…..

  • bigballs

    @Gregg Popovich

    Another successful business trip by Phil Jackson, Kobe and the Lakers.

    GP, strip down naked and take your wiping like a real man. You are really holding the team back. Do really believe that you can win that rubbish you are rolling out there night after night?

    Explain to the Spurs Nation again why bonner and bogus are on the team? Bonner looks like Forest Gump out on the court — Red Rocket my azzz! — A-1 scrub is more like it.

    The Spurs Nation would like for you to resign effective immediately. Phil, Kobe, Artest and even MJ Mebenga, that’s right, even MJ Mebenga are laughing at you. You just can’t get it up anymore!

  • bigballs

    @Gregg Popovich

    Get your things, you are sleeping on the couch tonight! What an embarassing loss.

  • lvmainman

    Popovich has clearly lost his mind. To play Bogans and Mason ahead of Hairston proves Pop wants the Spurs to lose.

    The only reason, I repeat, the only reason the Spurs beat the Thunder is Bogans never played the 2nd half. Hairston, on a night that Durant scored 45, never got scored on by Durant!! Durant was like 0 for 5.

    Hairston, on a night Houston’s Kevin Martin scored 30 pts, never got scored on by Martin!!

    So, why did Hairston never get a chance to guard Kobe Bryant??

    ANYONE? ANYONE?

    Keith Bogans and Roger Mason are pure garbage.

    Play Malik Hairston!!

  • lvmainman

    Anyone notice how Fisher was playing like garbage that Phil Jackson played Brown and Farmar to see if they could pick up the slack?

    When Bonner was o for 4 in the 1st half on uncontested jumpers, did it ever dawn on Pop to bench him? No, Pop thought it was best that Bonner go 1 for 7 instead.

    When the Spurs were down 79-89 after a timeout, why run the play that gives an open corner 3 that Finley and Barry always made, for Mason who was 0 for 4 on uncontested 3 point shots up until that point?? Mason missed to go 0 for 5!! Did Pop not learn from the Cleveland game, that when Mason was 0 for 8, and we ran a similiar play for an open 3, Mason insisted on being 0 for 9??

    Pop has clearly lost his mind.

  • lvmainman

    Roger Mason is not a catch and shoot 3 point shooter. Mason needs a rhythm dribble to make a 3 point shot.

    Last year, when we beat Boston in Boston, Mason made a 3 pointer off the dribble in transition. When we beat the Clippers in LA last year, the 3 point shot Mason made was off the dribble. When Mason beat the Lakers last year and got fouled by Fisher it was off the dribble.

    The Spurs need a catch and shoot 3 pt shooter ala JJ Redick, Jason Kapono, Anthony Morrow, Raja Bell, or Kyle Korver.

    Roger Mason has got to go.

  • bigballs

    @lvmainman

    I man, beautifully stated regarding the Spurs, sharp shooter, Rog Mason, not being a sharp shooter at all. Every shooter has a bad night from time to time, but he is consistently not a good shooter and has ability to augment his game by putting the ball on the floor and going to the bucket. Why won’t you want to play Hairston in this situation? He shows and demonstrated consistently that he can do some nice things, so why wouldn’t you want give this guy 10 - 15 minutes to see what he can do? Particularly, when both Mason and Bogus play so miserably. Mason could do better with a little more, consistent playing time, but he was getting good time last year and his production was still really sporadic and inconsistent.

    Also, excellent point regarding Bonner. Nothing personal, but if the guy is not hitting shots, which most often, he is not, then just sit him. He does not do enough additional things to stay on the floor, in fact he is a liability.

    By the way, did you guys see the nice little 3 spot shots from the paint area by Bonner? Again, @6’10”, I think Bonner could get that shot anytime he wants it or get to the line by coming off curls and brush picks in the paint area and going to the bucket. This would augment his game where he is not just sitting at the 3 line launching and clanking bombs — he is not a consistent enough gunner to get long minutes on the floor in role. @ the 3 spot, he would have a chance to often be in a mismatch situation.

    Personally, I have no personal beef against Pop, but the vary comments that the I man has made in his post, is the same thing that myself and others like BHogs have been highlighting. The issues are so glaring that it is amazing that it has taken a veteran coach like Pop all year to bring a proper resolution to the Bonner/Bogus/Mason/Hairston/Miahimi issues.

    Listen, if what you are doing is not effective and guys clearly are not producing and other guys are sitting on the bench getting DNP’s night after night and NO adjustments are made, then the Spurs Nation should be offended by Pop’s lack of adjustments. Even if he was slow to adjust, it does not and should not take an entire season for a vet coach to identify issues, then made a corresponding adjustment. Even if it doesn’t work - Still some type of adjustment should be made different from what you have been doing night after night. How is it possible that guys like Hairston and a young athletic 7 footer can not get time on this awful, awful Spurs team? Hairston is not a rook, he is a second year guy who spent a whole year with the Spurs system last year becoming acquainted with the “Pop System” (the Pop System, does that make you want to hurl to?)

    Again, great post I man, just nice to see not everyone has silver and black blinder on.

  • bigballs

    Box score VS. Lakers

    Total
    K. Bogus 16:47mins 0-1 0-1 0-0 -1 1 1 0

    ? — Why even bother?

  • Marcos

    The big mistake was to take Manu out with 5 minutes left in the 4th. Spurs were up by 3 I think. 2 minutes later, when he comes back they are down by 9 and and it is too late.

    In the second half it was 1 on 5. In the first half at least G. Hill played too.

  • BALLHOG

    @ Bigballs

    @ Ivmainman

    The intresting thing is that it is so obvious that Pop is killing the team. If you know anything at all about the NBA, it should be glaring.

    Ive said this over and over and will put it out there again. We cannot win playing Bogans and Bonner against top tier teams,

    Who are we kidding. There are posters in here that strongly disagree, but who are we kidding here?

    Bognas got double digit minutes again last night and he could not have been more pathetic.

    Bonner is what he is. No need to further tag his overstated value. This is basketball and he is no Balla. He runs around on the floor with the deer in the headlights look.

    I agree with BB on Bonner. He is running around out there like Forest Gump indeed.

    His presence on the floor changes the face of our team. He brings no intensity and zero swagger and it hurts us as a team, even if he is making shots. Opposing teams have no respect for him as a player, whatsoever.

    As for Bogans. This is what fuels my criticism for theis coach. He continues to play this guy and he is KILLING the Spurs.

    Again, who let this guy into the league?

    Hill played well in the first half, and though he didnt score as much in the second, he still contributed a bit in the second.

    His drop off in the second was due to Farmars defense. Love G. Hills game,

    but,

    you do not trade Parker.

    Finally,

    We played the LA Lakers man…

    Bogans, Bonner, and Mason on the floor together, against the Lakers? This is Pops rotation? WTF?

    Bring on Avery!

    @ Greg Popovich

    I begged you to have Bogans removed from the arena before tipoff!

  • pastrypride

    Last night, Ginobili played well and Hill played great for half the game. Blair played hard, though not always intelligently. Nobody else did much of anything.

    A lot of people are piling on Mason, Bogans, Bonner and Pop. And rightly so. They performed badly. Everytime Mason I see Mason catch the ball for a wide-open 3, I die a little bit inside.

    McDyess and Jefferson also contributed nothing.

    And the big elephant in the room here, and I really can’t believe no one mentioned it, is Timmy’s 2-11 shooting night. I mentioned this in an earlier thread: Tim Duncan is not nearly what he used to be. He’s declined significantly since the start of the season. Over the last five games, he’s averaging 14 pts., 8.8 boards, and shooting a shade under 50% (because of the disasters against Orlando and LA). Those are HUGE declines. And when I checked his last five games a couple weeks ago, the numbers were about the same. You can also see it watching him. He doesn’t seem to want the ball on offense. His defense clearly suffers from a lack of athleticism (there was one play last night, in the third or fourth quarter, where a Laker just waltzed in for a lay-up with Timmy watching). And he gets out-hussled on the boards often enough. Yes, he got 12 rebounds, but I think many of those are defensive rebounds that would have gone to another Spur had he not pulled it down. Gasol’s block on his jump shot made me feel sorry for him.

    I’m not saying he won’t have some more good games. But this is the fundamental reason this team has been mediocre all season: our big three have not played well together. Sure, the poor supporting cast hurts. But why does Bogans’ lack of production hurt us so much? Plenty of teams have a guy or two who do very little. Look at Derek Fisher. If we had a big three to do the heavy lifting, and guys like Hill, Blair, and Bonner were just playing minor roles, things would look different. But while Timmy was playing well, Ginobili and Parker weren’t. Now that Parker’s out, Ginobili’s playing great and Timmy’s becoming increasingly average.

  • Marcos

    Yes, pastrypride, I think you are right. If somehow Ginobili, Duncan and Parker play well (not great) in the same game, the Spurs are to fear. Otherwise we don’t scare any of the good teams. Maybe Phoenix and Denver, they just melt when they see #20 in front.

  • BALLHOG

    @ pastrypride

    Good points on Duncan.

    I remain a strong supporter of Duncan, but his weaknesses are certainly glaring. My support of him, while strong, is not blind to his shortcommings.

    He is just not strong enough anymore. Tim needs time in the weight room if he plans to be effective as his career nears its end.

    Each year he is forced to catch the ball further and further from the rim. He is not strong enough to root out a spot in the paint.

    Gasol shut him down last night and embarrassed him in the process. I look at it as a viable tool. If that embarrassment wakes Duncan up, maybe we see more effort out of him for the remainder of this season.

    As for the players around him….No need for comment.

    Hairston and Mahinmi must be completely blown away with the sequence of events. They are benched while watching other players come out, log minutes, and absolutely stink up the floor. How could they possibly be worse than the absolute crap that Popovich is playing?

    WOW!

  • agutierrez

    I have a hard time criticizing TD. His drop-off was predictable and expected. It happens to all greats. He will never again see 25/15. That he is still able to do 15/10 on most nights is a tribute to his skills. Same with Bonner. I’m tired of dogging the guy, not because he doesn’t deserve it (let’s face it, he’s a very mediocre player) but because to expect more out of him is ludicrous. Same with Blair. He’s hit the wall … again to be expected. But what’s unexpected (and killing us) is Jefferson and Mason’s disappearance, the Bogans atrocity (because we were led to expect a lock-down defender) and Pop’s intransigence in seeing what is plain to most observers. It’s too late to change things but a very promising season has come crashing down and, while not all of it can be blamed on Pop or the front office, their share cannot be denied.

  • bigballs

    @pastrypride

    Pasty post my friend and well stated!- my vote is for you as next GM of the Spurs.

    Hum, kinda quiet. I wonder where Gregg Popovich and that clown Jim “Sugar Pants” Henderson are? Sugar Pants, where are your Pop stats?

  • bigballs

    @BallHog,

    Keep the truth coming my friend. Looks like your takes were not so far out after all.

  • BALLHOG

    @agutierrez

    I couldnt have said it better.

    By now, regardless of where our support lies within this organization, we can all see the truth.

    Spurs losing games is not the end of the world and none of us is going overboard, but this is truly alarming.

    As a fan, I am very curious as to why this has happened.

    Losing 1/3 of your roster at midseason?

    Continuing to put players on the court who are killing the team?

    Being in pre-season prep mode for an entire season?

    No adjustments?

    And, for this coach and FO to look at our roster, identify our weaknesses, have an opportunity to bring in a couple of late season role players, and we bring in two very average D League guards?

    To me, it signifies that something is broken within the organization. Something is terribly wrong with the overall picture here.

    Lakers game…Competitive down to the 4th quarter. Ginnobli is taken out of the game, when he is the guy that is keeping us in the game. Who is called to come in?

    Mason, Bonner, and Bogans on the court at the same time? Against the LA Lakers? If that is not scary to us, we arent Spur fans.

    I am not hell bent on bashing this coach or this FO. I would however, like for the tough questions to be answered. NOW!

    If I were asking the questions, Pop wouldnt punk me out like he did to that poor Latin journalist during last nights contest. I felt sorry for the guy.

    However, I can understand the hesitance of the local media to ask those questions. According to rumors, if a reporter asks the tough questions, Pop will bar them from covering the team.

    Regardless, gotta feed the family….

  • agutierrez

    Next to the North Koreans, Americans are the most authority - worshiping people on Earth. That extends to sports fans (and journalists). Got over that shit a long time ago. Others would do well to do the same.

  • Jim Henderson

    Geez, I wonder who all the wonderful fans are in New Jersey, New York, the SF Bay Area, Minnesota, D.C., Sacramento, Detroit, & Indiana?

    If they had fans like many on this blog the NBA would be in shambles. Yup, a number of spoiled brats running around on this blog.

    I do happen to have a train ticket to New Jersey for ya all. Any takers?

    Fact is, we have an aging/injured core of stars that have not produced up to expectations, and we couldn’t afford to pay new studs to come in to lift the team immediately to our “lofty” expectations. We tried with Jefferson (less so w/McDyess), but to the dismay of many that has unfortunately not worked out.

    As well, some of the key role players have simply not stepped up with their performance this year. For example, Roger Mason, ranked number 60 ALL-TIME in 3 pt. % (at 38.5%), has been shooting about 25% over the past month or so, and his season % is at a dismal 34%. Unfortunately, sometimes role players just have a bad season. That’s why they’re role players. Offering other explanations is merely speculation or conjecture, or heading off into the deep end of “pop psychology” (pun intended).

    And for those of you that are still confused by this, KEITH BOGANS was never thought of by the organization, or anyone else that knows the game for that matter (or has followed his career), as anywhere close to a Bruce Bowen type defender (since you can count on both hands role-player-defenders like him in the history of the game). No, Bogans was brought in as a mediocre to above average defender (even with these modest expectations he has underperformed, somewhat) that was “cheap” (relative term!) and willing to stick to making defensive effort his main priority. Some of you want to bash Bogans, and overplay his weaknesses, and that’s fine, if you can’t resist. But the points above, about our better player’s under-performance, is more relevant to explaining a season of disappointment, thus far.

    That said, I did make a few fairly detailed comments on this blog after the all-star break, making a case for why I thought, based on his play up through the Rocket game about a month ago, that it appeared to make sense to give Hairston a shot at Bogans role. Pop has played him more since then, but not enough, from my limited view.

    That said, it is unlikely such a move would be a real game-changer. But even so, the risk was minimal, and should have been explored more deeply, in my view. You never how it might change overall team attitude & intensity. Some of Hairston’s youth, defensive intensity, energy, & athleticism might have been able to spark the team overall, to some meaningful extent. It’s obvious the overall team could use a bit more of his type of qualities.

    As far as about Pop: everyone should know where I stand on that: humble, realistic, inquisitive, understanding, appreciative, and respectful. He’s obviously not perfect, but I’ll take him over any other coach in the league (Phil Jackson would be fine as well!). But I won’t engage the “bashers” anymore on this subject, because it invariably involves unreasonable, irrational, and illogical lines of communication.

    And besides, “Kiki’s” calling for you guys anyway. You’re needed in NJ to get the Nets movin!

  • Gregg Popovich

    @ bigballs, BALLHOG,

    Sorry guys-I couldn’t get back to my iPhone-turns out the fine for using a cell phone during the game is more than I spend on wine auctions in August! The combination of poor spirits and coaching responsibilities have kept me busy until now. That said, I am glad to participate in a civil round table with both of you (and Jim Henderson, if he wants) to discuss coaching strategies, my failures, etc.

    Last night… Where to begin. I thought we played very well for about 2 - 1/2 quarters, and Manu was a stud the whole night. That said, it takes a village to beat the Lakers, and we didn’t have enough guns last night.

    I decided early on to ride McDyess as long as I could, knowing that (1) the Lakers have an excellent frontline with which McD’s talents should match up well, and (2) Antonio needs to know we rely on him, whether or not he makes mistakes… Which brings me to my next point: McDyess makes too many mistakes to stay on the floor, primarily on defense. A few examples: Midway through the first quarter, after a double team, McDyess ran out on the three-point shooter, and his momentum carried him beyond the arc. He turned and stared glassy eyed at the rim, watching the ball, which proceeded to be rebounded by a Laker on the long carom. McDyess literally stood flat footed looking desperately side to side for his man… 25 FEET FROM THE BASKET! Needless to say, his man get the quick pass and made the easy bucket. Fast forward to the second quarter… Duncan slides to double a driving Kobe. McD stares at Kobe with feet firmly planted i the middle of the paint not guarding either (a) Duncan’s man, or (b) his own man. Gasol moves a few feet to the right and gets a pass and easy layup while Antonio doesn’t even begin to move until it is too late. These are just too of many examples of McDyess looking like a lost child at the supermarket on defense. He is actually pretty darn effective one-on-one, but in terms of rotations and help defense, he has got to figure something out or I can’t leave him on the floor.

    Keith Bogans. I actually think he did alright last night. I know I will get assassinated for that remark, and I realize that I disregarded bigballs’s suggestion on DNP’ing him, but he stayed in front of Kobe (0 dunks, 0 layups) and forced him into tough shots (of which Kobe made most, granted.) I don’t need him to score.

    Bonner? Yeah, he laid an egg. I will admit it. At the same time, I am trying to avoid the knee-jerk reactions that can disrupt what I think is starting to shape into a consistent rotation (which many of you have criticized me for not having in the past.) Despite his offensive woes, Bonner actually decently on defense. He stayed in front of his man, except for what I noted as twice when he got turned around during a rotation, and did well except against Odom. That said, I will accept some hissing for keeping Boner out there all night.

    Long story short, I really thought we had this game until the fourth quarter. I really didn’t want to screw around with being in the lead against the West’s best team by experimenting with the inconsistency of Hairston and Mahinmi, even though I realize that if they were at the top of their games, they surely would have contributed more than others on the floor last night. At the same time, those “others” include one Tim Duncan. If Tim had shown up (which he has for like 99% of his career) we win this game, pure and simple. We basically had Manu for 48 minutes, George Hill for 32 (great, great minutes, at that), and not much more. Given that, I think we did pretty well. I don’t worry about Tim showing up when it counts in the playoffs. If we face the Lakers and have the same game, except with TD tossing in 20, I like our chances (against the LAKERS!)

    Let me know on the round table, guys.

    @ Jim,

    As much as I appreciate the support, a lot of your arguments sound like excuses. TP is down, yeah, but George is also playing out of his mind at times, and Manu is back to, well, Manu. I’ll admit my rotation last night was conservative. I didn’t upset the apple cart and went with what I knew would produce predictable results. Unfortunately, predictable includes Bonner being at times unimpressive and McDyess having trouble on D.

    Thanks for the support, nonetheless.

    GP

  • Gregg Popovich

    BTW, a big shout out to pastrypride. I hadn’t read his comment before posting my last one, but I think you are seeing things the right way. The entire Spurs organization knows that role players are not the problem here. As the big three go, so go the Spurs as a team.

    At the same time, I (respectfully) don’t share your pessimism (at what I read as such) toward Tim Duncan. One thing I have learned about Timmy is that he will right the ship. As long as he feels he has gas in the tank to step out on the floor, he will find a way to get his game in order. Just wait. We may not succeed in the playoffs, but I am willing to bet it won’t be because TD doesn’t do his part. And, if TP and Manu are back in shape by playoff time, I still like our chances against anyone. It doesn’t matter much to me whether the role players are firing on all cylinders. If TT&M are there, we can find a way to find the rest.

    GP

  • Bigballs

    @Gregg Popovich

    All we want is your very best coaching effort. At present, we are not getting that.

  • Jim Henderson

    “As much as I appreciate the support, a lot of your arguments sound like excuses. ”

    Excuses?! What arguments did I lay out that are excuses? Perhaps your referring to my comments on the “Duncan” thread? (if so I’ll address them there) In this thread, I specifically suggested that you try Hairston in the role of Bogans, which has included significant (20 mpg), steady minutes, for the most part this season. But you didn’t, and haven’t. By the same token, I don’t pretend to know more than you about how to effectively coach the Spurs. That would be the definition of insanity. Don’t you think? So, sure, I support you, but I don’t make-up excuses for you either. I’ll leave that to you.

    “Unfortunately, predictable includes Bonner being at times unimpressive and McDyess having trouble on D.”

    Yeah, well, who else are you going to play, coach, Mahinmi! The Lakers would be in the penalty the WHOLE freakin game. Look, coach, I appreciate your attempt to second-guess yourself, but let’s not get carried away here. Also wouldn’t take my support for granted, it’s not “unconditional” you know. This is a business, as I’m sure you’re aware.

    Now, if you want to “upset the apple cart” with your rotations that’s fine with me, but if you do I’d start with Hairston if I were you. Just some unsolicited advice from a lowly old fan with no real coaching experience. So, of course, please take it with a grain of salt. I’m sure you’re trying to make the best moves you can to help the team win. But whatever you do, good luck, and I hope you do succeed. It’s your bag, baby! I’m just along for the ride.

  • BALLHOG

    @ G Popovich

    You sir, are killing the momentum of the 48…

    Next time you decide to take a leave of absence, at least let Bogans know so that he can let us know. We need your input.

    I see that you are posting a an awful lot of “REAL” in here today. Be careful. There are many that cannot take too much “REAL” I totally agreed with your posts, except for that your discreet attempt at saving Bonner and Bogans from the Hog.

    I received a frantic call from a D League player last night. He insisted that I promise him that Bonner and Bogans would not be allowed to join his league.

    Forgive me for that,

    The above attempt at humor in reference to the play of these two Spurs last night was put in place to prevent me from using expletives at the 48.

    @ Bigballs

    The round table is being put together as we speak. I see that you have received confirmation from the coach. Outstanding.

    @ Jim Henderson

    JIMJIM….Whas poppin my friend?
    Even though we do a lil back and forth Jim, its obvious that you know the game and this team.

    Based on that Jim, and only that…

    I will accept your formal apology and might consider keeping Bigballs off your azz….:)

    As for the Laker game fella’s. Othere than losing the game, I thought Duncan being shut down by Gasol on national TV was a blessing in disguise. We all have pride.

    Hopefully Tim will lace em up now and cut the BS…

    As for Mcdyess’ inability to rotate on defense; I Think the entire team suffers from this offliction. Have been since preseason.

    During the round table discussion, I plan to offer Coach Pop a bribe to play some zone defense. PLEASE!

    Finally, I have to extend an invitation to Bushka to join the round table….

    Wouldnt be the same without B….

  • Jim Henderson

    Gregg Popovich
    March 25th, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    Some of your quotes, followed by some of my comments.

    Speaking of McDyess:

    “He is actually pretty darn effective one-on-one, but in terms of rotations and help defense, he has got to figure something out or I can’t leave him on the floor.”

    Astute observation, and I concur, GP. That said, it’s a pretty disturbing recognition this late in the year, don’t you think? In my view, we’re simply not going to be able to win a series against elite teams with this kind of interior “D”.

    “Keith Bogans……….I don’t need him to score.”

    Maybe not, but three or four easy buckets (high percentage shots, typically at the rim) per game from this position couldn’t hurt, could it GP? Think Hairston, who by the way, has been fairly consistent in his play this year, on both ends, and has managed to limit his mistakes and unnecessary fouls much more. I don’t think consistently hitting the “three” out of this position is an absolute must, and it’s not like Bogans has been lighting it up.

    “If Tim had shown up (which he has for like 99% of his career) we win this game, pure and simple.”

    GP, don’t give the “bigballhogs” any ammo that as coach of the Spurs you’re living in the past. TD has NOT shown up in 99% of our games THIS YEAR — not even close. And this year is much more important than career-wise at this point in time. While still VERY good, he’s not the same TD from 2005, or even 2007. And even if TD “showed” up last night, it is highly unlikely we win that game. The Lakers are simply a better team right now. We have to get “real” about that. As a coach, you gotta believe you can win, or you certainly will not. I get that. Just be careful of using the “if” this, “if” that too much. In the long run it could prevent us from doing the things that are necessary to get back into “real” contention again for a title.

    See, GP, I don’t really view you as an icon, do I?