Summer League Notes: SAS vs. NOLA

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San Antonio Spurs 92, New Orleans Hornets 86

It makes absolutely no difference who wins or loses these games but I guess it feels better to win.

It’s difficult to believe the George Hill I just watched play is the same player who turned in such a mediocre performance during the 2008 summer league. Hill had 25 points on 7-13 shooting and turned in a pristine 11-11 mark from the line. He also led the team with 3 assists.

Hill’s ball-handling has improved noticeably. He looks particularly confident when headed into the lane. In the first half he threw down a nice dunk, and continued to reach the rim and finish smoothly throughout the game. In the words of David Thorpe, “[Rodrique] Beaubois is the best pure pg I’ve seen this summer. Until George Hill.”

If you like reading shameless praise of DeJuan Blair, than you have come to the right place. Blair turned in an impressive double-double (13 points, 10 rebounds) during a productive 22 minutes of floor time.

I’ll be frank: I love watching Blair work under the boards. He has a mature sense of spacing and soft, accurate hands. His rebounding was particularly notable on the offensive end, where he consistently turned misses by his teammates into open layups and trips to the line (where he went 5-6). As will be the case during the regular season, Blair was by no means the tallest player on the floor. But he was the only player on either team whose rebounding count reached double digits.

Blair’s offensive contributions weren’t limited to put-backs; he showed promising signs that a well-rounded offensive game may be in his future. On the first play we ran specifically to him, Blair turned and hit a smooth 12 footer. On the next play, he received the ball at almost the exact same spot and used his defenders over-adjustment to take him off the dribble and draw the foul. Blair’s mechanics are a little loose, but the origins of a reliable offensive arsenal are there.

Jack McClinton did not play well this afternoon. His 2 turnovers, 4 fouls and 2 points during 15 minutes did not exactly resemble the offensive spark I had hoped to see in him. He struggled to create space with or without the ball in his hand. His first FGA was well-contested; his second was blocked.

After his performance today, I can see why the Spurs went ahead and signed Malik Hairston this past week. He was easily the best Spur on the floor behind Hill and Blair. His 16 points on 11 attempts came a variety of ways: At the rim, beyond the arc, catching and shooting, dribbling into shots. He even showed a bit of poise as he nailed a 3-pointer to put the Spurs ahead by 4 with 10 seconds left. If he can continue to play at this level, the Spurs might be deeper at the small forward position than we thought.

Ian Mahinmi, although very talented, has a reputation for being soft. This afternoon, he didn’t do much to dispel that reputation. He was consistently out-muscled on both ends of the floor. This is partly because of his sheepish attitude but it’s also caused by his weak lower body. Mahinmi’s arms and chest are strong but, if he is going to consistently establish position beneath the basket, he is going to have to develop below the waist.

Although there is almost zero chance that either Alonzo Gee or Romel Beck will be on the Spurs next year, both played well today. If either of them ended up on the Toros this upcoming season, that’d be just fine.

Our next game is against the Nuggets on Tuesday night at 10 Eastern/9 Central.

Other Reading:

Hornets 24/7

David Thorpe’s Liveblog

Pounding the Rock

  • John

    Mahinmi being soft isn’t a surprise or disappointment. What is, is that he had 7 fouls in 25 minutes. He can’t just go hacking every guy he sees…

  • FunkTron

    DeJuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!! Anyone who watched him eat up Hasheem Thabeet on both ends of the floor saw a guy who’s got serious potential as a scorer. I mean, like All-Star level potential. Gotta do it on the court, of course - can’t crown him yet or anything… But he’s got the world in front of him and the best to learn from. I love it.

  • therealkman

    If Blair, Hairston and Hill continue to produce like this throughout the regular season, I don’t think their will be a deeper team in the league.

    Starters: Duncan, McDyess, Jefferson, Mason, Parker.

    Bench: Ginobli, Blair, Bonner, Finley, Hill, Hairston.

    If Hiaslip plays well early on then Mihinmi may find himself at the end of the bench next two whomever the plan on filling out the roster with. Right now I would imagine Marcus Williams and McClinton if he can find his shooting touch before leaving Vegas.

  • http://www.poundingtherock.com Wayne

    I found out today from Ian that this was his first game in a year. I agree that he didn’t look particularly good, but I’m hoping some of it was rust. We’ll see.

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Graydon Gordian

    Wayne,

    That’s a good point. I’m definitely willing to give him some time.

  • the little o

    You’re so lucky ATS! You should’ve asked him about the Manu kiss. jk.

    Graydon,

    Hill’s play was phenomenal, but not too impressive, because I expected him to play well. What I liked most was that Hill’s fingerprints were all over the final two (most decisive) minutes of the game.

    As great as he played though, I would’ve loved to see him passing a little more (playing pick n roll, finding open guys like he did at the end with Hairston). He seems like too much of a scorer. In his defense, the spurs want him to play as a back up to Parker (and TP is a scoring PG), so I guess he did that and more (since he also plays excellent defense). Still though, I feel he can improve at being a point guard and creating opportunities for his teammates. What do you think Graydon?

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Graydon Gordian

    the little o,

    I’d also like to see Hill’s court vision and passing ability develop. But our offense has never been predicated on having a pass-first point. For the time being, his increasingly confident ball-handling and ability to reach the rim will more than suffice.

    Also, given how brief the summer league is, there isn’t enough time to really established any type of offensive system. So I wouldn’t worry too much about his relatively low assist numbers.

    I am really excited to see what he and Blair could do together on the pick-and-roll.

  • duaneofly

    Great to hear about Hill and Blair.
    Haha I have a stupid question though, been wondering, why is NOLA short for New Orleans? 😛
    Anyways go Spurs and thanks for the superb offseason coverage! 😀

  • Robby

    nice first game for Hill, Blair and Hairston….
    i hope McClinton, Gist and Ian do better next game… specially Mahinmi it seems that his problem is lack of lower body strenght i’m sure the spurs coaching staff are already working on this… he just came from on injury so will see…

    on another thing, Graydon do you think the spurs will sign Manu to a contract extension? i hope so! other teams are already talking extensions with their stars notably wade and nash…

  • Robby

    duaneofly

    here is my guess… New Orleans Hornet should have been NOH for short right? but i think they get NOLA from this New OrLeAns… just a guess though :)

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Graydon Gordian

    Robby,

    I would like us to resign Manu, but I don’t think the FO will make a decision til the end of this upcoming season. A lot will depend on whether or not he can remain healthy this year.

    Also, LA is the abbreviated form of Louisiana. That’s where the term NOLA comes from.

  • dingo

    Found this article on NBA.com on Blair.

    http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/summerleague_blair.html

    Also, I thought NOLA stood for New Orleans Louisiana (LA the shortened version of Louisiana).

  • Rob

    New Orleans (NO) , Louisiana (LA)

  • Robby

    Graydon,

    Thanks for the NOLA info.
    about Manu, i’m a little worried if the FO will wait til the end of the upcoming season because alot of teams might give him better offers that we can’t match or willing to pay?…. your thoughs….

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Graydon Gordian

    Robby,

    Teams will surely make some offers but, given the economy and the recently announcements regarding the salary cap, I don’t think you’ll see teams throwing an exorbitant amount at a 32 year old player with a history of injuries.

    At the end of the day, I believe that, if the Spurs make a respectful offer, Manu will choose to stay in SA.

  • Robby

    Graydon,

    again thanks for a making this Manu thing clearer… i hope he choose to stay in SA when the time comes. i hate to see him go, like what happened to Bruce and Oberto… (2 great guys that helped us win championships)

  • Bentley

    I’ve always been amazed by Hairston and Hill’s unique ablities to get to the rim, I agree Hill needs to become a better passer and become just a little more konwledgeable about the game, but he’ll do good things t the backupm point guard spot

    Hairston will make a great shooter from the 3, while being able to put the ball on the floor and finish at the rim, I haven’t seen him play defense too much, can anybody tell me whether he’s a good defender or not?

    McClinton’s 2 point night was less than what i expected, especially after watching him light up North Carolina last year, I guess everyone has bad games, I’m hoping its one of those.

    Ian Mahinmi definently needs to toughen up in his lower body, that’s what helps maintain balance and where you get the true source of power, he’s gonna have to come into the league and get position on guys like Bynum, Gasol, Nene, and other big men of this conference.

    I guess thats what we have Dejua Blair for

  • Mr Robinson

    First time visiting blog-Awesome job keep up the good work!

  • duaneofly

    Hey thanks guys for the NOLA info :)

  • lvmainman

    Mahinmi, I don’t have any faith in, or any belief in being a role player at all. Personally, he seems to be half the player that Francisco Elson was.

    Blair, I liked what I saw. But, to score it looks like he’ll have to do the Moses Malone of tossing it to the rim(or get it tipped or blocked) and getting the offensive rebound and score. Which worked fine for Moses Malone, so I have no problem with that style.

    Hill looked assertive off the pick and roll and Hairston played within the flow of the game. Two good role players that look in tune to fitting their roles. Unlike James White today, who looked like he was trying to make a name for himself with the Rockets and failing miserably.

    Was good to see Tolliver getting some run with NOLA. He played well last yr in summer league, but couldn’t do it in the regular season. He point blank stuffed Gist on one dunk attempt.

    Does anyone know why Haslip isn’t playing in the summer league?

  • mori1040

    I hate to make knee-jerk judgements, but I concur that Mahinmi probably won’t develop into the type of center we’ve been hoping for (a solid rotation player to come in and make his presence felt in games).

    Even if it is his first game in a year, one would expect him to be a bundle of unleashed energy on the court, anxious to prove that he belongs. He doesn’t play with that fire or energy that you hope to see from young, developing players (I’m thinking of bigs like Pops M.B., his countryman Ronny Turiaf, or even a more laid back type of player like Brandon Wright).

    One positive, he still seems able to get to the line fairly well, where he is extremely effective.

    There’s still four more games left. Let’s hope it was just rust and he’ll make a bigger impact on Wednesday.

  • Tydus

    One thing I noticed while watching this game. Summer League (SL) teams normaly run and function the way that their parent club functions, and I saw this squad running a lot and pushing transition. Does this mean that the Spurs are going to be pushing the break more this season? It would make sense honestly. With the additions of Jefferson, Blair, and Haislip this team is slowly starting to look like it’s being built around Tony Parker instead of Tim Duncan.

    lvmainman: The FO says that Haislip will practice with the SL team and be there to watch the games but he won’t be playing. I don’t think they ever gave a reason, it’s just one of those “FO says so” deals

  • Tydus

    I agree with what al lot of people are saying about Mahinmi, but there were two moments that gave me hope. Early in the 1st quarter he blocked a shot out of bounds. The block didn’t count because there was a foul called on McClinton, but it was still good to see Ian going after it like that.

    And then at the 2:40 mark in the 4th quarter, he pulled a nice sweeping move that gave the Spurs an 83-81 lead.

    Hopefully it was just a case of the his first professional game, but McClinton wasn’t remotely impressive to me. He finished with 2 points thanks to free-throws, and got his shot blocked twice. During the 3rd quarter Newman shifted Hill and McClinton so that Jack was running the point and in my opinion he looked even worse. It’s apparent that he is not a point guard (granted most of us knew that). But like I said, hopefully this was just first game jitters and he’ll start knocking down 90-foot jump shots like he did in Miami.

  • Ian

    Nice article. Enjoyed reading it.
    I almost consider Mahinmi as a rookie, rather than a player with 2 years of experience. Except for his time in D-league, this guy doesn’t have a whole lot of experience in NBA. On top of that, Mahinmi suffered a series of injuries that probably hindered his progress - sort of like Greg Oden, who was effectively a rookie last year and struggled to play like a first overall pick. Mahinmi will struggle this upcoming season (he’s no better than a rookie, afterall), no doubt, but I’m sure he’ll gradually develop into a decent player if he can avoid further injuries.

  • mori1040

    Tydus,

    I could be wrong, but I also didn’t notice them running m(any) plays for Jack. They ran a great set play where Ian or Gist came out and set a pick for George on the back cut lob pass from Hairston.

    I’d expect Jack to run a few more baseline curls coming off screens in the next game. It seemed like a good deal of his 3’s came from those types of plays at Miami, and it’s basically the same play we run to get Finley involved.

  • Pistol

    Nice first game for Hill, Blair and Hairston. We will have a good bench next season but I think we need a good back up PG. Hill plays very well, I like him but he isn’t a PG, Mason too and it was an issue last season.

    Concerning Mahimni, I agree with what a lot of people are saying about him but don’t forget it was his first game in a year. I’m very surprised you don’t speak about Gist because he didn’t look particularly good too… So we will see.

  • Drom John

    Hill was not mediocre last summer. Hill was bad.

    Haislip has too much NBA service time to be allowed to play. OTOH, I believe he is practicing with the summer team.

  • Ken

    Any way we can see highlights of last night’s game?

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Graydon Gordian

    Ken,

    If you purchased the Summer League pass, I believe all of the games are archived online. For those of you who haven’t, I’ll start searching around. If I find some footage, I’ll post it.

  • mori1040

    Ken,

    There’s a link off of the spurs twitter page…

    http://twitter.com/spurs

  • Martin

    Guys, if you go to NBA.com in the video section you can find the highlights of Summer League’s games…

  • Ken

    Here’s the highlights link: http://www.nba.com/video/games/spurs/2009/07/12/nba_noh_sas_1520900009_recap.nba/

    On another note, I have never really cared about summer league (or even preseason games for that matter) because, for the last decade or so, Spurs haven’t really relied on rookies and unknowns. We pretty much have known who would be are starting 5 and bench players. But this year is so odd, with so many rookies, young players, and unknown quantities certain to affect this coming season that I am actually deeply interested in this part of the offseason. Anyone else feel the same way?

  • Glenn

    I feel the same way Ken, I have never followed the summer league before. I have lived in SA the entire Duncan era and have never been this excited about an upcoming season. I even considered paying to see Summer League games, how insane is that. The team we currently have is more talented then any previous team, by quite a bit. There are 5 players who have averaged 20PPG seasons counting Manu’s 19.5 with a group of very talented young players. Our second unit will be leaps and bounds ahead of every other bench in the league.

  • Jason

    Ken, I feel the same way. Last year, I wouldn’t watch the free summer league games, this year, I can’t believe it but I paid the $15 to watch them.

    I was impressed with Hill, Blair, and Malik Hairston, especially Hairston because I didn’t expect him to be as effective as he was. Hairston made an impact in this game that didn’t show up on the stat sheets, much like our experience with other guys named Malik, I think he’s gonna be the kind of player that makes up greatly for his minor short comings in physical ability with intensity and hustle.

    As for Gist, at one point I thought I saw him hit his chest on the rim (lets hope that’s why he missed the shot and both the free throws) so the dude’s plenty athletic, lets see if he’s better next game

  • Daniel B.

    I sheepishly plunked down the $14.99, and haven’t looked back since (despite some technical issues with access). It was great to see our new players on the floor, along with seeing the returning guys (Hill, Hairston) being able to play more minutes. And Hill’s authoritative tomahawk over some poor Hornet’s head about midgame made me shout like I was watching a regular-season game. I’m looking forward to the next four games.

    As to the game itself, I came away with very similar impressions as most of the posts above. Hill was quite impressive, making only a few notable mistakes, and his ball handling was stunning on more than one occasion. I would like to have seen more assists from him, too, but I think the folks above are right to say the Summer League isn’t an assist-friendly environment. His energetic defense and heads-up running of the offense was confident and efficient. And with all that, I still got the impression he wasn’t playing at full speed. If part-speed equals 25 points, I’m looking forward to seeing full speed!

    Hairston shot remarkably well. His corner three in the final seconds gave me flashbacks of Bowen. And I thought he was channeling Bruce with alert, hands-up defense (though Hairston didn’t appear to have nearly Bowen’s sticky quickness, a bit of a disappointment. But then, that’s why Bowen is-was?-so special).

    Blair played impressively, especially for a first game, and I look forward to seeing the Chairman of the Boards back in session on Tuesday. And I’d like to see a bit more low-post defense from him then, too.

    Beck played like an offensive all-star. Though I can’t say I recall him doing anything notable defensively, I’d never seen his game before, and the few touches he got on offense almost always turned into points. Me likey.

    Mahinimi was a disappointment, though he probably felt more pressure than anyone to do well (anyone with a name other than Gist, at least). He moved with energy, but I didn’t see him altering shots or muscling down rebounds. And at least once he overplayed a screen and left the middle wide open. But, as Tydus noted above, he did have a sweet drive down the lane towards the end of the game, so perhaps he just needs time to get the rust off.

    As to Gist, he seemed pretty much invisible. Not good, not bad, just invisible. Hopefully, we’ll “see” his game on Tuesday.

    McClinton defintely came across as out of his element. He hustled and worked hard, but didn’t really have anything to show for it. And after he got his shot blocked twice early on, he really didn’t get much more offensive opportunity to try again. I’m curious to see how the next game looks for him.

  • drew

    Hahaha! Mavs lost Gortat to Orlando! Good luck tryin to guard Duncan and McDyess with Nowitzki and Dampier!

  • BayAreaSpursFan

    I love hearing about Blairs work in the paint. I saw all of his tournament games this year and was impressed. The Spurs have been needing a guy like that for the past couple of years. With the addition of Mcdysse, Blair should learn alot about the game. I am very excited about this year and possibly the next if the guys stay healthy.

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