The Notebook: Spurs-Lakers, 1/25/09

by Graydon Gordian

This afternoon’s Spurs-Lakers match-up was frustrating for fans of the silver and black but offered a pretty concrete guide of what needs to happen for this Spurs team to be considered a real contender rather than just receiving the obligatory “never count the Spurs out” remarks. We’ve got a lot to discuss so let’s get down to business:

There is no greater trap for the Spurs than the allure of the 3-point shot. We love to take them and the more we miss the more we take them in order to make up for our misses. This was painstakingly clear during the 3rd quarter during which the Spurs allowed the Lakers to create the distance they would fundamentally maintain for the remainder of the game. During the second quarter Duncan and Parker used high percentage shots to keep the Spurs competitive (we actually led for a decent part of the first half) but our infatuation with the long ball ensured we wouldn’t walk away with a win. Just so we are clear about how futile our perimeter shooting efforts were, the Spurs went an abysmal 5-23 from beyond the arc.

I think this afternoon’s game also showed the inadequacy of small ball in certain situations. In general Pop’s increasingly common tendency to go small doesn’t bother me because, aside from Duncan, our most potent scorers reside in our backcourt. And I have long been an advocate, not so much of a more offensive-minded approach, but at the very least a greater consideration for the number of people on the floor who can honestly create their own shot.

But against a team with a frontcourt composed of Paul Gasol and Andrew Bynum, we need to deploy the legitimate low post defenders we currently have (ideally we will be adding one more before the trade deadline). By that I mean that Fabricio Oberto and Kurt Thomas, against a team like the Lakers, should be seeing some of the minutes Matt Bonner is getting. Matt Bonner had a poor game today, but I don’t want to use this as an opportunity to jump down his throat. Yes, he took far too many shots. Yes, he attempted (poorly) to create of the dribble. And Yes, he failed to be a reliable presence on the boards. But that is nothing new when it comes to Matt Bonner. What makes Bonner an acceptable member of the rotation is his ability to limit himself to 4 or 5 3-pointers a game and make 2 or 3. But we can’t a) rely on him to cover the likes of Pau Gasol and b) allow him to take so many FGA (3-8, 0-4 from 3 point range).

In all honesty, those are two things I could have told you before this game. Those are two things I could have told you after the first game of the season. What I am surprised to here myself saying is that this afternoon’s loss was primarily a failure of on-court leadership. Most specifically I am referring to Tim Duncan. In situations where the team is making mental errors (particularly in terms of our shot selection), I expect Duncan to step up and clarify how we should be putting the ball in the hoop. I expect Duncan’s defensive focus to become equally unbreakable and infectious. I expect him to lead.

It’s not that Duncan had a bad game. It was decidedly average. But throughout the contest he came off as being nowhere near as focused as his counterpart, Andrew Bynum. Bynum gave him trouble on both ends of the floor and looked far more interested in making a statement than Tim did. I am not saying Tim needs to prove anything to anyone; clearly he doesn’t. But that is not an excuse for allowing yourself to get out-muscled on both ends of the court.

In some ways, this game was a far more even contest than the final score suggests. We didn’t do a terrible job on defense and we consistently found wide open looks throughout the game; we just didn’t make them. Our crisp, reliable ball movement will ensure we get open looks from the perimeter but in order to be able to win late-round playoff games we are going to have to survive on something else other than the longball.

Notable Statistics:

Only 3 Spurs players had a positive +/-: Bruce Bowen (+6), Fabricio Oberto (+4), Ime Udoka (+1).

Despite the Lakers height advantage, the rebounding was fairly even: The Lakers hauled in 43 while the Spurs collectively nabbed 40 rebounds.

Despite our perimeter shooting struggles, the Spurs had an excellent day from the line, connecting on 87.5% of their 16 free throw attempts. Duncan, Mason, Udoka, and Hill all shot 100% from the charity stripe.

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  • gospurs44

    “In some ways, this game was a far more even contest than the final score suggests.”
    Did you watch the same game as me? This game wasn’t that close!! If anything it shows the gap between the 2 teams. A much as I hate to say it the Spurs would lose a 7 game series to the Lakers right now 4-0 or 4-1. They started out shooting 4-6 from 3pt and ended shooting 1 of their last 17!!! This team isn’t a great shooting team. They are a bunch of streak shooters. They might hit 6 of 9 and then go 1 of 11. The next 12 games will let us know where this team stands. Contender or Pretender?!

  • ChillFAN

    Well said. I didn’t really see much of a plan against bynum on d. you say go big, and Fab may have experience defending Gasol, but Thomas looked so awkward out there. If the game is about heart & class, the spurs are the champs 4ever. It’s obvious the Spurs overachieved last year, and are not on the same talent level as celtics, magic or l.a., so make a trade. but I say go for athleticism over height.

  • Juan H.

    I think that we started the game badly due to 4 quick unnecessary fouls ( 2 from Roger mason and 2 from Matt Bonner). that Threw them off the game.

  • Nico

    I’m not sure I follow TD not providing leadership during the game, he was hounding Bonner during most of the third quarter. It was just a horrible game, but I will admit it could have been worse. Who can we pick up before the deadline? Any possibility of a Charlie Villanueva or David Lee?

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Graydon Gordian

    gospurs44,

    I believe I spent a good portion of my recap ripping on us for our poor outside shooting so I am not sure I see how your point is that different than mine. But we held the number one offensive team in the league to double digits and for all intents and purpose went even on the boards. If we shot from the outside as well as we usually do (near 40%), it would have been a different story.

    Juan H.,

    The 4 quick fouls definitely hurt (particularly because we had to bench Mason pretty quickly), but we recovered and took a lead in the 2nd, so I don’t think the slow start is what killed us.

    Nico,

    He was hounding Bonner, which is good. But in general I felt his lack of intensity began to permeate the group throughout the 3rd quarter. I would argue it isn’t about concrete things like actually yelling at someone but providing a sustained example of effort that is more inspiring for his teammates. Obviously no one really stepped up but I harped on Duncan because, well, he is Tim Duncan. And yes, David Lee has been suggested to me but that is pure speculation.

  • David G

    I agree that the game was actually closer than the score indicated. The Spurs had tons of open shots in the 1st half that they usually would have made. This doesn’t mean they would have won, but once the Lakers lead got up to double digits in the 3rd the Spurs were finished.

    David Lee? How would the Spurs get Lee? I think the Spurs have a better shot of TAU Cerámica not being able to meet payroll because of the economic downturn then they do of trading for David Lee (if only Isiah Thomas was still in charge…sigh).

  • http://mundoalbiceleste.blogspot.com john

    The supporting cast were dreadful and this is not good for the Spurs. Even Manu was way too poor by his own standard.

    But in games like this, the best thing that they can do (especially for the likes of Mason, Hill etc.) is to learn as much as they can.

    Having said that, I still believe that the Spurs will be a strong contender in the playoffs.

  • Will

    I’d agree it was more even than the score suggested, I didn’t feel the poor shooting was due to the Lakers D but more to… well… poor shooting. The Sours kept laying bricks and must have set a record of how many wide-open 3s can go wrong. I thought the D and rebounding effort was better than in some previous games, especially in the 2nd half. I wouldn’t write off a whole team due to a poor shooting nights, the real problems are elsewhere as Graydon explained.

  • dtm

    the lakers are more deeper, talented and athletic than the spurs.

    you have to play almost perfect for 4 qtrs to beat them.

    the spurs only played a decent half.

    duncan couldn’t carry the load against gasol/odom by himself last year. he definitely can’t do it if you throw in bynum who is gaining more and more confidence each game he plays that he can dominate inside.

    ariza and odom are long and quick that they even give parker problems on the perimeter.

    waiting for the spurs to make a move, otherwise, as stated before, we’re just a playoff team.

  • Pinky

    The story of the game is that Andrew Bynum neutralized the Duncan Effect by being able to score on Duncan in the post. The Spurs usually hold a gigantic advantage at the center position, but against the Lakers that advantage was minimized, magnifying the (non)contributions of the rest of the Spurs, like Bonner. Some games the “supporting cast” may do well, and other games, like yesterday, they’re not going to be up to the task. There is a reason they aren’t stars, and when you start to depend on inconsistent players you will get inconsistent results. This usually isn’t a problem, as Duncan can more than make up for the rest of the team, but for that one game, Andrew Bynum gave as good as he got.

  • Brian Tung

    Lakers fan here. Just wanted to offer the other side.

    You don’t have to play four nearly perfect quarters to beat the Lakers. They’re every bit as good as their 35-8 record, I think, but that means that those eight losses weren’t flukes, by and large. Despite the height in the front court, the Lakers are not power rebounders. Both Pau and Bynum can disappear for significant stretches in that regard; I think Bynum just had a game in which he had one or two rebounds. For a seven-footer, that’s just weird. Our friends at Forum Blue and Gold just posted a blueprint last week for beating the Lakers in a seven-game series. We do it so to feel some (mostly illusory) sense of control over the Lakers’ destiny, but it’s a good read all the same.

    One thing I will say: In my opinion, the time has passed for beating the Lakers by trying to establish pace. They’re simply too proficient at playing at a variety of paces. Clogging the passing lanes is a good bet-ask the Celtics.

    I thought Manu didn’t play a good game. He shot all right from my subjective impression (haven’t checked the stats, and I missed most of the first quarter), but he made some poor passing decisions and in many cases his tactical decisions could charitably be described as Manu being Manu. The Spurs’ defensive rotations also seemed wilted-non-crisp, that is. If you can’t get into the passing lanes to pick off or prevent the passes, then you must be ready to rotate, and that rotation must in most cases begin as the previous pass is thrown.

    Despite the six-game gap, the Spurs still present a prominent threat in the playoffs. Both coaches can obviously coach their @sses off, and I think I’d put Pop ahead of Phil on the tactical end, although I still think Phil is unmatched as a longer-term strategist. It’ll be interesting to watch them face each other in a series, and I hope it happens. We’ll see who wins the rubber match in the regular season, at the least.

  • ChillFAN

    thanks, BrianTung. Good points.

  • http://spursinsight.blogspot.com/2009/01/spurs-lakers-preview.html DartmouthFred

    This loss was not difficult to see coming. It was the perfect set up for the Lakers to blow the Spurs out. It’s an early afternoon game on the road. The Spurs always play poorly in the early contests. The Lakers had revenge on their minds. The Lakers had their bench healthy again. The Spurs have a ridiculously difficult schedule coming up and could not be completely focused on this game. Bottom line, the Lakers wanted it more. Do not take too much from this game. The Spurs shot 37% from the field and 21% from beyond the arc. And it was not because of the Laker’s defensive effort, the Spurs simply missed wide open shots. Their concentration level did not match that of the Lakers. This game is not a reason to sound the alarm. The Lakers are good, yes, but the Spurs are right there. And with this roster, they will be right there come playoff time. We’ll see if the Matt Bonner spot is upgraded before then.

  • ChillFAN

    Respectfully, It was HOW they won at home and HOW they lost on the road that’s so worrisome, DartmouthFred. Ginobili was swishing threes from halfcourt, yet the couldn’t hold a lead at home in the closing minutes. The Spurs were as focused as they will ever be, they have nothing more to prove. yet they were overmatched by the third quarter Sunday. Maybe they don’t need different players, but they need a different gameplan fo sho.

  • LionZion

    Lakers are not by any means infallible. But the thing is, during the game, your main people have to do enough to make the Laker role players mentally checkout/doubt themselves in the game. Make Kobe go super-Kobe with everyone else playing bad and we/anyone else wins.

    Achieving that is hard though. During third quarter, Lamar Odom on Parker made him miss most of his layups(I think). That match up stalled our offense. We didn’t make Lakers pay for full court presses. We neutralize some of their tactics, then the role players begin to droop.
    Also Lakers rotated just a tad more fast, enough to bother a lot of our ‘open’ 3pt looks I think. And our role players lost it from there.

    Am not even gonna say anything about Manu. He has to just play with his head. If he tries and loses, I will be okay with that. But try smart.

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