Woj: Popovich working out Jefferson

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You may already have read this (news travels fast these days on the interwebs) but Adrian Wojnarowski reported last night that, although Richard Jefferson opted out, that does not necessarily mean he is leaving town.

Via Yahoo! Sports:

Sources said Spurs coach Gregg Popovich has been personally working out Jefferson in San Antonio. The free-agent forward could re-sign with the team at a number that lowers the franchise’s luxury-tax hit while guaranteeing him more money on the back end of a multiyear contract.

I’ll admit, I was a little excited by the idea that the Richard Jefferson experiment may have come to an end. But a quick glance at the list of available wings makes me think that, if the Spurs have the opportunity to sign Jefferson to a multi-year deal for a significantly decreased annual amount, they’ll take it.

  • Bryan

    Sure, the list of available wings isn’t pretty. But I think this is a good chance for the front office to prove that they are still the best in the NBA by getting creative. I’m thinking sign & trade. We, as fans, were excited at the prospect of who we could bring back at the trade deadline with the expiring RJ contract. Jefferson was a terrible fit on this team, and guaranteeing him 3 or 4 more seasons in SA just doesn’t make any sense to me. Even if he is the best wing available.

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Graydon Gordian

    Bryan,

    Don’t get me wrong. I agree. But those creative deals can be hard to pull off. I just think, all things considered, RJ back in SA is probable.

  • idahospur

    I think we have Pop liking what he saw at the end of last year, when RJ and Manu were on the court together. But can we make this guarantee just to keep an overpaid player around, one that caused so much grief for most of the season?

  • Tyler

    “makes me think that, if the Spurs have the opportunity to sign Jefferson to a multi-year deal for a significantly decreased annual amount, they’ll take it.”

    I’m thinking $5M per – it’s hard for me to believe he’s worth much more than that, but is that enough for RJ? With the young guys we have in the wings, I have to believe we can reproduce most, if not all of what RJ gave us last year. In that case, let’s sign a cheap wing with the LLE and save the tax $.

    Another thing, RJ isn’t getting any younger either. He’ll be 30 in June. Do we really want to be paying him (a guy who relies almost exclusively on athleticism) until he’s 33 or 34? If we want/need to get younger, how does this fit into that gameplan?

    And then there’s the question of fit. Although he’s adequate on defense, he’s not particlary efficient from behind the arc, but also not physical enough to play small ball 4. Regardless of the money, why bring back a guy that has shown is a questionable fit?

    My take? Let RJ walk (or S&T). We swung for the fences with the RJ trade and it didn’t work out. It was the right move from a risk/reward perspective and the organization should be applauded for rolling the dice when most small market teams wouldn’t. But let’s end the experiment. At 30, RJ’s game isn’t going to change much in one offseason. IMO, the fit just isn’t there. Let’s save the $ and move on.

  • DaveMan77

    If Pop has got Jefferson’s back then even after that disaterous season that he must like Jeff. I mean if Jefferson could score a bit more consistant it would’nt be bad also no one comes over to San Antonio and fits in right away. I think if he stays he will have a much better season.

  • lvmainman

    @ Tyler,

    Why would Jefferson settle for $5 mil per to take 3 yrs to earn what he could have in 1 yr?

    Jefferson has to be looking $8 to $10 per for a minimum of 4 yrs to make opting out worth it and not looking like a fool.

    I think Jefferson is gone from the Spurs for good.

  • http://basketworldchampionship2010.com Pulpo

    He still ended up being our fourth option, even ahead of a growing Hill.
    But, can we realistically sign him for 4 years at 5mil per? I don´t think so… that would mean only 5 more mil over three years on top of the 15 he opted out.
    He´s looking at at least 7-8 mil per.
    If that´s the case we could do a sign and trade.
    I wouldn´t mind someone like Channing Frye who can give us a big ball SF with outside shot, and another big to replace Bonner´s minutes.
    Kyle Korver is someone I´d like to have if we can get him cheap.
    S&T are something to look more into.

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  • Tyler

    @ lvmainman

    I was looking at it from the perspective of “how much is RJ worth on a yearly basis?” not necessarily how much he’ll get on the open market. I believe his production is reasonably worth about $5M/year. And if that’s the case, it’s a bad decision on the organization’s part to sign him for any more – production whould exceed the salary ideally.

    From RJ’s POV, of course he wouldn’t go for $5M/year – unless his agent has totally misjudged the market, signing for $5M defeats the whole purpose of opting out. I agree with you – he’s looking for something in the $8-10 range. And if that’s the market, I think you have no choice but to let him walk.

    I’ll repeat it: long, expensive deals for underperformers is a recipe for disaster. Those are the types of deals that drag teams down, moreso for a small market team like the Spurs. RC made that mistake with Malik Rose, but was fortunate enough to unload him on NY for Nazr (take a bow Zeke). I doubt RC makes that mistake again.

  • VP of Common Sense

    Finally, some action!

    Here’s what I would do if I was RC:
    Trade Tony Parker to Philly for Andre Iguodala. Salaries are basically identical.

    We need a starting SF, Philly needs a legit PG and just drafted Evan Turner who plays imilar positions as Iggy.

    We let Jefferson walk and sign one of these free agent point guards to back up George Hill :
    Luke Ridnour, Ray Felton, Jannero Pargo, Steve Blake.

    I’ll be in my office Mr. Holt.

  • VP of Common Sense

    *similar

  • DieHardSpur

    WRITE IT DOWN:

    Jefferson wears silver and black this coming season

  • doggydogworld

    Iguodala = RJ, except he’s a worse shooter with a much worse contract. I’m afraid we have to demote you to Associate Director of Common Sense.

  • Hobson13

    doggydogworld
    July 1st, 2010 at 8:03 am

    “Iguodala = RJ, except he’s a worse shooter with a much worse contract. I’m afraid we have to demote you to Associate Director of Common Sense.”

    You must be smoking the same thing RJ did just before he opted out. Iggy is a much better player than RJ. Jefferson is a one dimensional, fast break player who loses focus on defense. A.I. is an elite athlete, great defender, and MUCH more creative off the dribble. In the past, Iggy has come close to being a 20-5-5 player. RJ has never come close to that. As far as shooting goes, neither player will be confused with Ray Allen, however, AI is the focal point of their offense and has a career shooting average of 47%. RJ was the focal point in Milwaukee and shot 44%. As we discoverd last year, RJ can’t create offense with the ball in his hands. Iggy can create offense if given the ball.

    Granted, Igoudala would never be the #1 option on a great team, but he could be a very good #3 or #4 man. IMO, Iggy is what we thougth RJ would be.

  • Bryan

    @Hobson
    Yes, you are right, Iguodala is a very good player and could be a great #3 or #4 man. But you don’t pay your #3 or #4 plaer maximum money. That’s just bad business.

  • Hobson13

    Bryan
    July 1st, 2010 at 8:42 am

    “@Hobson Yes, you are right, Iguodala is a very good player and could be a great #3 or #4 man. But you don’t pay your #3 or #4 plaer maximum money. That’s just bad business.”

    No you don’t pay the #3 or #4 max money, but $12mil/year is not max money. Besides, don’t we have a third option on the Spurs who makes $12 mil? (Tony Parker) My point is that in this day and age, you have to spend money on good talent if you want to compete with the big boys and AI is an elite talent.

  • VP of Common Sense

    That’s a good one doggydogworld!

    Let me guess, Tim Duncan is a poor man’s Jermaine O’neal?

  • VP of Common Sense

    Plus, Iggy has 5 years left on his deal and is only 26.

    We get his prime @$12 mil/yr.

  • bduran

    “I’m afraid we have to demote you to Associate Director of Common Sense.”

    And you can be assistant to the regional manager of common sense :)

    Seriously, Iggy is better. Similar shooting, more rebounds and assists. If we could get someone like Ridnour I’d do this trade, but I’m not sure how likley that is.

    I really wished RJ hadn’t opted out. I really don’t want to have him on the roster after this year and I’m worried we’ll do something like sign him for 3 years 8+ mil. He’s just not worth it.

  • rj

    hopefully, rj resigns at a lower annual salary in a multi-year deal. we need a starting SF. if we still plan to delve into the luxury tax, we can find ourselves a veteran shooter and a bargain big.

    if jeff wants 5 years, than that koopa can grow wings and fly off to the choco caverns.

  • Bryan

    @Hobson
    Sure, TP is making 13-mil, but he is also 1 season removed from an all-NBA season. AI will never make an All NBA team and can’t initiate an offense the way TP can.

  • VP of Common Sense

    Let’s not forget we have to resign Parker in the next two years and i’m sure he’ll want at least what Manu got plus he’ll be a declining 30 year old PG built on speed.

    Parker is no Steve Nash I’m afraid.

  • Jacob

    “if jeff wants 5 years, than that koopa can grow wings and fly off to the choco caverns.”

    lmao, oh God! I needed that laugh today – thank you

  • Tyler

    The 3rd option on the Spurs is an All-NBA caliber player. Iggy, on the other hand, isn’t an All-NBA’er. He’s a good, solid, player who is productive, but probabaly a little overpaid. Keep in mind, he’s due to make $12.35M next year, $13.5 in 11/12, $14.7 in 12/13, and $15.9 in 13/14.

    I like Iggy as a player. He’s above average in most areas, but not great in any. He’s also not a great long range shooter either. Going into a new CBA, based on his production and how he might fit with the Spurs, I don’t know if that’s the type of contract we want to have on our books.

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Lenneezz

    I have faith but it is being tested by RC and Pop. These guys obviously have the track record, they’ve earned it. My gut says no no no to RJ. His play in the Dallas series summed it up in my book. He needs help to have a great game. He looked scared in the final minutes game after game.

    It’s like what Bill Simmons what to say in his draft recap. “I had Anderson as a draft bust. However, I’ve learned to never doubt the Spurs draft picks. This is awkward.”

    I trust the FO and have really only once been let down (see Luis Scola). I’m feeling awkward on this RJ situation.

  • doggydogworld

    “In the past, Iggy has come close to being a 20-5-5 player. RJ has never come close to that.”

    RJ was 22-7-4 in 2004-05.

    “Plus, Iggy has 5 years left on his deal ”

    That’s NOT a good thing. He’s a worse 3 point shooter than RJ (quite an accomplishment!) and would struggle in our system at least as much. But instead of him opting out after a year we’d have to overpay him through 2014. No thanks.

  • Jonathan

    Iguodala is much better defensively and he can create his own shot, as well as shots for others. Even though he’s not good from long range just like RJ, he’d be a major upgrade IMO.

  • Jim Henderson

    Tyler
    July 1st, 2010 at 6:36 am

    I generally agree with your take on the RJ situation. Although I don’t think RJ would settle for less than 8 million over 3 years. That price, at max, would be reasonable for the Spurs to consider, but I’d still like to see us get a younger wing if possible, like Dorrell Wright.

    VP of Common Sense
    July 1st, 2010 at 7:37 am

    “Trade Tony Parker to Philly for Andre Iguodala. Salaries are basically identical.”

    Unfortunately, Philly is a young, building team. They’re not going to trade for a late-prime PG when they have talented up & coming PG’s for a good price (Holiday & Williams), and deal away one of the best all-around wings in the league, who is 2 years younger than Parker. There’s no real redundancy with Turner & Iggy. They’re both very versatile players that can play the SG & SF equally well, and that’s a plus, not a minus. Otherwise, even though I like TP, I’d love to get Iggy here. It would fill a big weakness for us.

    doggydogworld
    July 1st, 2010 at 8:03 am

    “Iguodala = RJ, except he’s a worse shooter with a much worse contract.”

    Overall, there’s no comparison. Iggy is a MUCH better all-around player than RJ: defense, play-making, passing, rebounding, etc.

    Bryan
    July 1st, 2010 at 8:42 am

    “@Hobson
    Yes, you are right, Iguodala is a very good player and could be a great #3 or #4 man. But you don’t pay your #3 or #4 plaer maximum money. That’s just bad business.”

    Iggy could be the #2 or #3 man in the right situation. Very similar to TP. And he doesn’t have a MAX deal. Max is like 16 mil.; he’s getting 12 mil. Not cheap, but not overpaid by much, if at all.

    Bryan
    July 1st, 2010 at 10:01 am

    “@Hobson
    Sure, TP is making 13-mil, but he is also 1 season removed from an all-NBA season. AI will never make an All NBA team and can’t initiate an offense the way TP can.”

    One year THIRD-TEAM all-nba doesn’t say anything in comparing TP to Iggy. Iggy is not a PG, so he doesn’t initiate offense as much as TP, but he’s a better passer & rebounder than TP by far. Iggy would get far more accolades if he played with other great players like Duncan & Manu. You’re underestimating Iggy’s value.

    Tyler
    July 1st, 2010 at 11:37 am

    “The 3rd option on the Spurs is an All-NBA caliber player. Iggy, on the other hand, isn’t an All-NBA’er. He’s a good, solid, player who is productive….”

    That’s misleading and an understatement. Playing on a team with GREAT players like TD & Manu, with one of the best coaches, and having the good fortune of winning a few titles has allowed TP’s true abilities to be elevated somewhat, as his ONE TIME SELECTION AS THIRD-TEAM all-nba attests to. There was ONE other player in the league last year other than IGGY that averaged 17+ ppg., 6+ rpg., 5.5 apg., & 1.5 spg. And that player was LeBRON JAMES. So I think Iggy’s just a tad better than “a good, solid player”!

    “He’s above average in most areas, but not great in any.”

    No. He’s VERY GOOD in almost all areas, and that is a VERY VALUABLE player.

    doggydogworld
    July 1st, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    “He’s a worse 3 point shooter than RJ (quite an accomplishment!) and would struggle in our system at least as much.”

    I agree, that based on our CURRENT system, Iggy is not necessarily the best fit. But the fact is, we’re probably going to have to alter that system, and soon, because the system was specifically engineered around an IN PRIME Tim Duncan. Those days are over. Iggy could actually help the Spurs usher in a modified system, with crisp ball movement becoming a central feature.

    “RJ was 22-7-4 in 2004-05.”

    Okay, one year. Not that impressive. Over the last FOUR years:

    Iggy: 18.5 ppg., 5.8 rpg., 5.4 apg., 1.9 spg.

    RJ: 17.7 ppg., 4.4 rpg., 2.6 apg., .7 spg.

    Iggy wins in all categories, and in the two most important categories for a team like the Spurs, assists & steals, they aren’t even close.

    Ultimately, the whole debate is moot at this point anyway, because Philly is not going to do that deal. Not for a GROWING/REBUILDING young team with a guy as talented as Holiday at the point.

  • steve9121

    I’d like to see RJ stay. Towards the end of the season he was more comfortable. This coming season he’ll be even more comfortable and be able to get into the flow easier. Now the mention that he seemed to play well with Manu is interesting. Maybe bring him in with Manu off the bench and try to pull off a deal to get Thaddious Young to be the starter. Young can score and is a strong defender. I also like the idea of getting Channing Frye alot, but screw Korver – I can play better than Korver and I suck. I’d also like to see them come up with a deal that brings in L. Aldridge, we need a solid center that can score, rebound, and play the bulk of the game. Instead of splitting it between 3 guys that are either to old, or not effective enough.

  • steve9121

    TRUST IN POP. Screw Phil Jackson, Pop is the real guru.

  • steve9121

    Wait, can you say Paul Pierce.

  • http://www.airalamo.com b.diddy

    One of Woj’s rumors is false, why would RJ be working with Pop if he wants to leave for NY/NJ?

    Makes no sense.

    Unless he’s trying to play both sides of the table. Which if he left would mean nothing but shock, awe, and pain next time he encountered the Spurs.

  • Ryan

    Ddea: let RJ go, trade tony p. for a low $$ contract on a Pop project player. That should free up enough cap space to make a run at a marque free agent, most notable bosh.

    I love tony, always will, but we must replace timmy this year while timmy can mentor effectively.

  • Hobson13

    Bryan
    July 1st, 2010 at 10:01 am

    “@Hobson Sure, TP is making 13-mil, but he is also 1 season removed from an all-NBA season. AI will never make an All NBA team and can’t initiate an offense the way TP can.”

    I can name 3 PG’s who are widely acknowledged to be better than Parker and 4 more who are just as good. I’m afraid many of us Spurs fans overrate Parker a bit. Parker is at best a top 8 PG. I can assure you that Iggy is a top 8 SF. It appears that we are willing to pay Parker $13 mil this year, but paying $12 mil to a player who is 2 years younger and a better defender is out of the question. Doesn’t make much sense to me. BTW, a top 8 PG who can initiate the offense is not a prerequisite for a championship. (See Lakers circu 2009-2010) We need playmakers at every position in order to challenge the big dogs.

    doggydogworld
    July 1st, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    “RJ was 22-7-4 in 2004-05.”

    So you pull out a stat that is 6 years old? Do you think RJ is the same player today that he was 6 years ago?

    Tyler
    July 1st, 2010 at 11:37 am
    “He’s above average in most areas, but not great in any.”

    Igoudala is one of the few players in the league who is essentially a swiss army knife. He can play defense at a high level, he can score well, he can rebound well for his position, and he can pass. Sure he’s not Kobe in the scoring column or Duncan in the shot blocking and rebounding column. Nor is he Bruce Bowen in the defense column, but he can flat out play. He’s arguably one of the best all around players in the game.

    Jim Henderson
    July 1st, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    “Ultimately, the whole debate is moot at this point anyway, because Philly is not going to do that deal.”

    Unfortunately, I’m afraid you are right. I don’t see this trade happening unless Philly wants to unload salary.

  • doggydogworld

    Hobson13
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
    “So you pull out a stat that is 6 years old?”

    You said “never”. I didn’t realize that meant the past three years.

    Jim Henderson is right. AI would only fit if we scrapped the current system. Tim and Manu would spend their final years on a .500 team that’s learning new schemes and bringing in talent appropriate to those schemes. Maybe we get lucky in the lottery and get a dominant big and Doc Rivers son at guard. In five years maybe we’ll contend again. Or not.

  • http://www.48minutesofhell.com Lenneezz

    Wait for the Knicks to strikeout. Ship TP for Danielo, a 2011 draft pick and a newly signed Mike Miller. Sign Chris Duhon in FA.

  • DorieStreet

    To the Spurs fans that want to trade Parker because he has value–ok (but I don’t agree). But don’t bash him like he hasn’t contributed to the last 3 championships. Parker and Manu are the only foreign players we drafted that are successful for this team. Contrary to popular NBA opinion, the Spurs aren’t good at this “overseas project draft & stash” method. Luis Scola: drafted 2002 @56th pick- 5 years later, we gave him away to Houston because we didn’t want to pay. Ian Mahinmi: drafted 2005 @ 28th pick. 5 years later–is he ready to play? If so, then someone please tell the coach; 26 games played during end of game time mostly. Tiago Splitter: is he coming -Now? While 2 titles were won post-Robinson, how many more could have been acquired had the front office scouted the NCAA more instead of searching overseas?

  • http://www.airalamo.com b.diddy

    IMO, right now the Spurs are focused getting Tiago to put pen to paper, all the while keeping in touch with their bird-right players (Bonner and RJ)

  • bduran

    Doggy,

    “Jim Henderson is right. AI would only fit if we scrapped the current system. ”

    Not exactly what he said.

    AI is an immediate and significant upgrade over RJ on a 50 win team. Now we’d be losing TP, but he didn’t contribute that much last year so there I don’t think the AI trade would make us a .5 win team. Now, I don’t think this trade would ever happen, but I would be fine with trading TP for AI as long as we could acquire a decent PG, maybe in a sign and trade for RJ. I’m confident that TP will recover from last year and return to form, but SF is more of a need than PG right now.

  • Hobson13

    doggydogworld
    July 1st, 2010 at 4:31 pm
    “You said “never”. I didn’t realize that meant the past three years”

    You failed to answer the second part of that question, doggy. Let me refresh your memory:

    Hobson13
    July 1st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
    “Do you think RJ is the same player today that he was 6 years ago?”

    The answer is an obvious NO!! RJ has one year where he averages close to 20-5-5 (6 damned years ago none the less) and you wish to compare him with someone who regularly puts together these seasons on a team where he is forced to make the plays. Keep in mind RJ also had the best PG in the game at the time and future hall of famer in Jason Kidd during the 2004-2005 season; AI has had nothing on his Philly team. You either miss the point out of ignorance or you are simply playing games with me, either way I have neither the time or inclination to explain to you the difference between Andre Igoudala and Richard Jefferson.

    “Tim and Manu would spend their final years on a .500 team that’s learning new schemes and bringing in talent appropriate to those schemes. Maybe we get lucky in the lottery and get a dominant big and Doc Rivers son at guard. In five years maybe we’ll contend again. Or not.”

    So if we trade Parker for Igoudala we will be damned to .500 seasons? History doesn’t favor your argument. We were without Parker for 6 weeks during the toughest part of the season and did just fine. At this point, you’re just making assumptions and rambling.

    I’ve said my piece on Igoudala and Parker. I agree with Jim when he said that such a trade was unlikely, but completely disagree that “Iguodala = RJ, except he’s a worse shooter with a much worse contract.” I subsequently don’t see how anyone who watches the NBA outside of the San Antonio Spurs could make that contention.

  • Bushka

    Let him walk.

    Sign someone like Wright or Brewer with the LLE and see if Hairston or Gee can make a fist of things.

    Even if all your SF brings you is D it’s an upgrade on RJ. His shots gone awol and his D with it. Do we not remember how bad he was this season just past?

    John Salmons is in line for 39 mill over 5 years with the bucks, and is a better player across the board. Why would we throw 40 million at Jefferson over 5?

    R.J at 8 million per under the new CBA is going to be an absolute millstone.

  • Jim Henderson

    doggydogworld
    July 1st, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    “Jim Henderson is right. AI would only fit if we scrapped the current system. Tim and Manu would spend their final years on a .500 team that’s learning new schemes and bringing in talent appropriate to those schemes.”

    Well now, don’t read more into it than what I said. We don’t have to “blow up” the entire system to accommodate a guy like Iggy. Iggy is inherently a very adaptable player given his unparalleled versatility. My point was that it would make sense to begin the process of not relying so much on going inside out with our ball movement (we simply don’t have a DOMINANT low post scorer anymore, joining most of the rest of the league in that regard), and instead, begin to create more of a “movement” offense by whipping it around the perimeter more so than inside out (not vice versa, as it is today). That would be a modification of how we currently create floor spacing, and would allow us to “more frequently” create “multiple” driving lanes, and mid-range pull-up opportunities. Without Duncan’s dominance, this movement offense would not only play to Iggy’s strengths, but quite frankly, play very well to the strengths of most of our other players as well (and that’s of course, assuming that Bonner, Mason, Bogans, et al. are gone this year). This type of modification to the current offensive system would not be that hard to learn or adjust to, and in my view, should be ushered in either this year or next anyway, whether Iggy was coming here or not. Even James Anderson has the game that could thrive in that type of system. What it requires are players that can shoot decent, but even more importantly, can create off the dribble, pass very well, and are aggressive scorers taking it to the rack. All our key players have these types of skills: TP, Manu, Hill, TD, Blair (with improvement in his mid-range game, which I expect), and Anderson is a work in progress, but has the base athleticism to begin to accentuate this aspect of his game.

    Finally, if an Iggy/TP trade occurred, there’s no way our team would be anywhere near .500, even if Pop tried to gradually modify the offensive scheme, as suggested We would still win close to 50 games, either way, maybe more in the second year & beyond.

  • Bushka

    Hobson i’m with you on the talent level in the Iggy vs R.J stakes.

    However much i’d love to see him in a spurs uniform, he is unfortunately a cap killer. The new CBA is going to make a contract like Iggys terribly hard to digest.

    It’s not his fault that he is getting 15 million plus in the final year, but when thats over 25% of your cap it is a worry.

  • Jim Henderson

    Bushka
    July 1st, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    “Let him walk…….

    …..R.J at 8 million per under the new CBA is going to be an absolute millstone.”

    I’d also prefer to get another, younger wing, and certainly anything more than 3 years for RJ at that rate would be insane.

  • Jim Henderson

    Bushka
    July 1st, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    “Sign someone like Wright or Brewer with the LLE…….”

    Unfortunately, I just really doubt the LLE will be enough to nab either of these two.

    I think it’s smarter to go after a “role player big” with the LLE (e.g., J. Anthony), and target a wing through trading McDyess, or doing a sign & trade with RJ. BUT it would help to know what’s going on with Splitter to properly operate in this FA market!

  • Bushka

    Agreed.

    I just don’t see the spurs front office making this kind of a mistake.

    I tell you one thing, it makes them look incredibly smart right now giving Manu the money they gave him.

    With two max contracts out there already for guys that just don’t measure up he is looking like solid value.

  • Bushka

    Yep McDyess has the contract to do it as well. Partial guarantee for the first year of the CBA means instant cap space.

    Splitters our Lebron…lol nothing works until we get some clearance there.

  • Jim Henderson

    Bushka
    July 1st, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    “I tell you one thing, it makes them look incredibly smart right now giving Manu the money they gave him.”

    If the FO wasn’t going to consider doing a sign & trade with him, they did a fine job on his contract. It’s still on the high-end for me (although in this market?!, probably not), but it couldn’t go to a better competitor that has certainly paid his dues to the franchise.

  • Gary

    Either he stay or goes,

    I’m so happy we don’t pay this guy another 14

  • td4life

    I was okay with RJ’s final year, hoping we’d trade it for several nice pieces… or at least one and a trade exception… all this talk of re-inking RJ to a longer-term contract sickens me, I’d rather him walk and begin our rebuild.

    Even if he improves dramatically for the Spurs, he doesn’t have “heart” and is my least-favorite Spur of all-time…. I don’t want to see him as a Spur more than one more year, not as an overpaid role-player, or as a 4th guy who disappoints in big games.